#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by akgraner at 18:03:25 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-10-24-18.03.log.html . == Meeting summary == *leadership wiki ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership (akgraner, 18:06:33) *projects page ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects (akgraner, 18:08:01) ''LINK:'' roadmap - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Roadmap-P (akgraner, 18:09:13) ''LINK:'' blueprint - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-leadership-team (akgraner, 18:09:45) ''ACTION:'' akgraner to add valorie 's suggestions of using flossmanuals for our publications to BP and Roadmap (akgraner, 18:14:24) ''ACTION:'' work on weekly leadership videocasts (akgraner, 18:20:52) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity (jono, 18:23:32) ''LINK:'' http://flossmanuals.net/ (akgraner, 18:23:34) ''ACTION:'' leadership team to help with BuildingCommunity Knowledgebase and FAQ pages (akgraner, 18:25:02) ''ACTION:'' add BuildingCommunity pages to blueprint and Roadmap (akgraner, 18:26:10) ''ACTION:'' akgraner to check original bp for merging AoC to BuildingCommunity and will not gaps and get back to jono and the leadership team (akgraner, 18:31:18) ''ACTION:'' valorie to write up pros/cons to use floss manuals for or publications etc... (akgraner, 18:38:18) *annoucements Meeting ended at 18:45:37 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * akgraner to add valorie 's suggestions of using flossmanuals for our publications to BP and Roadmap * work on weekly leadership videocasts * leadership team to help with BuildingCommunity Knowledgebase and FAQ pages * add BuildingCommunity pages to blueprint and Roadmap * akgraner to check original bp for merging AoC to BuildingCommunity and will not gaps and get back to jono and the leadership team * valorie to write up pros/cons to use floss manuals for or publications etc... == Action items, by person == * akgraner ** akgraner to add valorie 's suggestions of using flossmanuals for our publications to BP and Roadmap ** akgraner to check original bp for merging AoC to BuildingCommunity and will not gaps and get back to jono and the leadership team * jono ** akgraner to check original bp for merging AoC to BuildingCommunity and will not gaps and get back to jono and the leadership team * valorie ** akgraner to add valorie 's suggestions of using flossmanuals for our publications to BP and Roadmap ** valorie to write up pros/cons to use floss manuals for or publications etc... * **UNASSIGNED** ** work on weekly leadership videocasts ** leadership team to help with BuildingCommunity Knowledgebase and FAQ pages ** add BuildingCommunity pages to blueprint and Roadmap == People present (lines said) == * akgraner (102) * jono (56) * valorie (52) * bkerensa (19) * SilverLion (14) * ashams (11) * meetingology (10) * Darkwing (6) * YoBoY (4) * jrgifford (1) == Full Log == 18:03:25 #startmeeting 18:03:25 Meeting started Mon Oct 24 18:03:25 2011 UTC. The chair is akgraner. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 18:03:25 18:03:25 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 18:03:38 ok not who's here for the leadership meeting 18:03:46 s/not/now even 18:03:53 * valorie is sorry I was late 18:03:58 so this is going to be one of those quick meetings 18:04:01 connection problems 18:04:05 valorie, no worries so was I :-( 18:04:09 heh 18:04:21 * SilverLion reports active for leadership meeting 18:04:53 valorie: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 18:05:00 ooo, sorry 18:05:01 great - so let me grab the wiki - fail on my part for lack of an agenda but we do have the road map and blueprint to take a look at for the 12.04 cycle 18:05:15 valorie, I already started it 18:05:16 also, I want to share a new resource 18:05:19 hi 18:05:21 and I think you do too 18:05:27 o/ 18:05:32 hi 18:05:38 yay! 18:05:43 peeps for the meet! 18:05:52 so so let's look at the wiki 18:06:27 :-) 18:06:31 #topic leadership wiki 18:06:33 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership 18:06:49 so here is our wiki page that outlines some but not all of our goals 18:06:58 is this page just for team goals? 18:07:12 jono, nope I'll get to that 18:07:15 ok 18:07:29 I should say mission etc 18:07:46 * jrgifford reads wikipage again 18:07:52 heh, Darkwing - fix your link 18:08:00 #topic projects page 18:08:01 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Projects 18:08:18 this page has the projects we are working and goals per cycle on ut 18:08:19 it 18:08:34 here is the place I jump in with my new resource idea 18:08:35 here's the links for the -P blueprints and roadmaps 18:08:39 valorie, one sec 18:08:41 ok 18:09:08 cool 18:09:13 #link roadmap - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Roadmap-P 18:09:45 #link blueprint - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-leadership-team 18:10:06 so take a look at those and while you are looking over those - valorie please tell us about your resource 18:10:24 last week I wrote a book 18:10:35 sweet :-) 18:10:39 link 18:10:47 I mean, I seriously *wrote a book* -- have a stack of copies next to me 18:10:53 =o 18:11:01 wow :D congrats valorie 18:11:04 using the http://flossmanuals.org 18:11:04 valorie, go on 18:11:14 with 3 Indian students 18:11:20 you mean http://flossmanuals.net/ 18:11:30 oops, yes 18:11:47 their resources might not fit our needs, but they are amazing 18:11:53 akgraner: fyI: the articles of mine regarding this leadership thing are online now 18:11:54 free, opensource 18:12:04 totally - I'm familiar with those resources 18:12:11 and amazingly flexible 18:12:15 ok 18:12:52 nods- so your idea in regards for the team is to use this resource for our books/publications? 18:13:11 I want to throw it into the idea pool 18:13:38 cool - I'll add it to the roadmap and blueprint it's a great tool/resource :-) Thank you! 18:13:52 if we ever will have a need for a printed book, I would totally plump for this 18:13:55 or ePub 18:14:01 PDF 18:14:06 etc. 18:14:24 #action akgraner to add valorie 's suggestions of using flossmanuals for our publications to BP and Roadmap 18:14:24 * meetingology akgraner to add valorie 's suggestions of using flossmanuals for our publications to BP and Roadmap 18:14:29 if not, then bzr is available too 18:14:42 yep already looking at that one :-) 18:15:09 ok anything else in regards to the blueprints/roadmap/ or current projects list? 18:15:11 the other advantage of it, beyond the easy collaboration, is that it is listed on their page 18:15:19 * bkerensa has something 18:15:28 * ashams too 18:15:31 valorie, anything else 18:15:46 bkerensa, floor is yours 18:15:50 no, I've done burbling for now 18:15:57 * bkerensa thinks it would be interesting to develop Webinars or possibly standalone videos on Leadership 18:16:12 bkerensa, you read my mind 18:16:41 * ashams has nothing now, thanks to bkerensa 18:16:41 I was going to talk to jono about mentoring us on how he does some of his UStream stuff 18:16:44 Kaltura has an Open Source platform for videos and I think there might be a Open Source webinar platform out there 18:17:05 UStream is decent but lots of ads :) 18:17:08 jono thoughts on that... 18:17:13 I would like to discuss new mediums of open weeks anyway 18:17:21 jcastro and I discussed this a little 18:17:28 yep but it's free and people can interact with each other and the speaker easily 18:17:33 how to create a more media rich environment for tuition content 18:17:43 unfortunately there are limited solutions out there 18:17:48 right now I find ustream.tv is best 18:17:54 jono, great - so how can we as the leadership team help you with that? 18:18:15 should we add that to the leaderhip summit topic ideas? 18:18:22 and maybe do a couple of those at UDS 18:18:22 jono hey there 18:18:23 akgraner, right now, I think we don't need much help - I reached out to Google to see if they will give me a public hangout account 18:18:26 hey SilverLion 18:18:30 I know Finn who used to be apart of our LoCo had this resource that was open source where you could stream video and then just embed it on your site with a IRC widget 18:18:33 * SilverLion is NRWlion 18:18:33 :D 18:18:39 :-) 18:19:09 that sounds totally cool, bkerensa 18:19:17 jono: Bradley Horowitz for the win... He responds to e-mail quickly ;) and is VP of Product (Google+) 18:19:25 bkerensa, it's more that just recording a session is the interaction of the community as well which is why I think jono's community QA format works so well - btu always open to suggestions 18:19:30 I heard a lot of discussion around this topic at the GSoC Mentor Summit 18:19:37 yup 18:19:42 I think the live chat thing is key 18:19:47 I think some great stuff might be happening soon 18:19:49 akgraner: Yeah no doubt... A public hangout idea is cool though :D 18:20:00 the right people were all in the room together 18:20:11 VLC, FFmpeg, etc. 18:20:21 jono, do you think at UDS we can do one Leadership Ustream cast -providing bandwidth will hold up? 18:20:29 could have used a jono too! 18:20:52 #action work on weekly leadership videocasts 18:20:52 * meetingology work on weekly leadership videocasts 18:20:55 akgraner, you would need to talk to IS 18:21:00 if they can do it, then sure! 18:21:00 Sorry I'm late. 18:21:11 I suspect bandwidth will be your enemy - ustream needs a lot of upload 18:21:13 valorie, :-) 18:21:20 :-( 18:21:39 ok anything else from anyone regarding blueprints and goals for next cycle 18:21:44 sorry 'im late ^ 18:21:47 akgraner, feel free to ask IS, they may be able to hook you up 18:21:51 UStream Backpack http://www.ustream.tv/production-services/mobile-package 18:21:52 ;) 18:21:55 can I ask a quick favor? 18:21:59 jono I'm meeting with them on SUnday 18:22:02 for help from the leadership team? 18:22:04 jono, sure 18:22:07 ask away 18:22:13 I would loved to see the team help focus folks on the BuildingCommunity pages 18:22:19 as a central knowledge base for leadership 18:22:24 is this something you folks could help with? 18:22:32 +1 18:22:34 link? 18:22:41 yes - let me grap the link so everyone knows what you are talking about 18:22:45 +1 18:23:32 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity 18:23:34 http://flossmanuals.net/ 18:23:37 crap 18:23:41 cut and paste fail 18:23:44 thanks jono 18:23:50 Yep I think we can do that 18:23:52 the main areas I think we need to focus is: 18:23:54 * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/KnowledgeBase 18:23:59 * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/FAQ 18:24:14 jono i am blogging about this topic exactly *happy 18:24:17 my dream is that this becomes a comprehensive and central set of documentation for the project 18:24:22 SilverLion, awesome! 18:24:52 jono, who built this resource? 18:25:02 #action leadership team to help with BuildingCommunity Knowledgebase and FAQ pages 18:25:02 * meetingology leadership team to help with BuildingCommunity Knowledgebase and FAQ pages 18:25:04 valorie, I started it off a few years back 18:25:13 in Brussels right jono? 18:25:19 you got the link i sent you via PM ... there is a second article as follow up coming online in the next 10 mins 18:25:20 or Dallas? 18:25:24 and then Chris C and Penelope S helped add a bunch of content 18:25:30 yeah I revived it back in Dallas 18:25:57 given that the Art of Community is CC licensed I suggested we merge some of the content in there so others can consume it in bitesize pieces 18:26:10 #action add BuildingCommunity pages to blueprint and Roadmap 18:26:10 * meetingology add BuildingCommunity pages to blueprint and Roadmap 18:26:59 looks like an amazing resource 18:27:01 jono do you want one person as the go to from the team to work on merging Art of Community in there 18:27:19 I thought we did that already? 18:27:23 but guess not 18:27:46 we need 2 or 3 people to help with this merging - jono thoughts 18:27:53 well much of the AoC content has been merged in 18:27:58 how do you want this broken down? 18:27:59 but I think more could be merged in 18:28:02 I'll volunteer to do what needs to be done. :) 18:28:15 I think it could be cool if a few leadership team folks merged in some of the content 18:28:30 I just think it will just make BuildingCommunity a more interesting resource with more content in there 18:28:34 Darkwing, sweet! 18:28:35 ok can you get us a list of what content you want merged in so we don't duplicate the work 18:28:57 * bkerensa can assist Darkwing as needed 18:29:07 akgraner, basically anything else that isnt in there right now I think 18:29:16 I don't have a list of things that are in and are not 18:29:28 although I think some blueprints might list them from a while back 18:29:33 ok - I have the book - I'll go through it and figure it out an get back with you and the team 18:29:48 also tbh, it doesnt have to be the AoC content, I just thought it would be low hanging fruit 18:29:50 * bkerensa also has a print copy of the book 18:29:51 :D 18:29:55 if others can write new content, that would be awesome 18:30:02 * SilverLion reports in if his time table allows 18:30:05 fortunately, merging in the book is just cut and pasting and formatting 18:30:15 the only requirement is an attribution notice at the top of each wiki page 18:30:19 jono check my link pls. maybe this will be interesting for you ;) 18:30:23 (the CC license requires that) 18:30:27 totally - I'll find the originally breakdown and see what still needs to be done from there 18:30:30 SilverLion, I will do later 18:30:41 thanks akgraner! 18:30:56 I think if BuildingCommunity is the central knowledge base that your team feeds into, that will be awesome 18:31:18 #action akgraner to check original bp for merging AoC to BuildingCommunity and will not gaps and get back to jono and the leadership team 18:31:18 * meetingology akgraner to check original bp for merging AoC to BuildingCommunity and will not gaps and get back to jono and the leadership team 18:31:28 thanks! 18:31:30 anything else? 18:31:33 from anyone 18:31:36 alright going to finish off my blog post and then hit up lunch 18:31:38 thanks, folks! 18:31:42 jono thanks! 18:31:45 thanks jono 18:31:47 also folks, remember the mini summit at UDS! 18:31:49 Thanks Jono 18:31:50 going to be fun :-) 18:31:51 thanks jono 18:31:52 jono have a good one! 18:32:03 take care, folks, thanks for the great work! 18:32:05 * SilverLion is not going to be there :( 18:32:07 yeah that was going to be in the announcements 18:32:57 * akgraner apologizes for lack of agenda - that WILL be fixed for the next meeting! 18:33:24 ok so any other thoughts on things we are working on, things you want to see happen for the next cycle etc 18:33:50 suggestions or comments - the floor is open just o/ so we aren't talking all over one another 18:34:14 does it needs a team to copy-n-pate? 18:34:41 * ashams finished :) 18:34:46 ashams, what do you mean? 18:35:01 Leadership Podcast for the win 18:35:02 it's not a much of work to do 18:35:02 ;) 18:35:12 I wanted to say something :) 18:35:29 * SilverLion will continue his series of blog posts 18:35:29 I beleive the /BuildingCommunity needs a complete make over 18:35:32 ashams, yep it's more than you think - I'll pull the stuff we already did so you can see how many people it took 18:35:36 akgraner: is that something I should have done, since I volunteered to chair? 18:35:44 the agenda 18:35:46 I know since I drove into everyones mind that this can be done I have not been around and I wanted to apoligize for that. :) 18:35:50 if so, FAIL 18:36:02 valorie, oh crap - I just started the meeting since we were running late 18:36:06 I know 18:36:12 we;ll get this worked out :-) 18:36:18 it's fine -- my connection was screwed up 18:36:29 yes 18:36:40 Darkwing: {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} 18:36:45 :D 18:36:55 valorie, if you can check on the differences between flossmanuals and bzr in terms of ease of use that would be a big help 18:37:13 ease of use: flossmanuals hands down 18:37:21 since we are getting ready to dump chapters 1 and 2 somewhere 18:37:30 also better than googledocs 18:37:30 can you write up the why etc? 18:37:40 sure, I'll send an email 18:37:44 so everyone understands etc 18:38:18 #action valorie to write up pros/cons to use floss manuals for or publications etc... 18:38:18 * meetingology valorie to write up pros/cons to use floss manuals for or publications etc... 18:38:24 I'll work till Chapter 2 get completed 18:38:41 :-) 18:38:42 ashams, chapter 2 is almost finished it's Chapter 1 that needs the most help 18:38:54 (don't forget l10n possibilities eventualy) 18:39:08 Chapter 1 is filled just needs some revision, but 2 has 2 modules to fill 18:39:09 YoBoY, yep - you want to lead that effort 18:39:28 ashams, Chapter 2 is overview with supporting doc in the following chapters 18:39:50 just add what you think needs to be there 18:40:01 I need to donwload it to read it in the plane :) 18:40:11 akgraner: just point me where you need me ;) i ll go and publish my next article ;) 18:40:28 SilverLion, thank you and will do - thanks 18:40:37 YoBoY great! 18:40:41 anything else 18:40:51 wow, you folks were rocking while I was gone 18:40:59 as expected..... 18:41:02 :-) 18:41:31 if not I'll get the blueprints and roadmaps updated and get an email to the list about today's meeting 18:41:46 #topic annoucements 18:42:20 UDS-P - next week in Orlando - if you can't go there is always remote participation which is great - I'll post something about that this week 18:43:20 Mini Leadership Summit at UDS - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-P/LeadershipSummit 18:43:38 also remote participation will be available for this as well 18:43:47 any other announcements 18:44:10 akgraner: Thank you 18:44:25 ashams, you're welcome 18:44:37 anything else from anyone? 18:45:00 great meeting; thank you amber for chairing 18:45:29 If not thanks everyone - I think are in the beginnings of a great resource for the community - thank you all for you hard work so far and I can't wait to see what all we can accomplish as a team this next cycle! 18:45:31 THANK YOU! 18:45:37 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot)