== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting-2 Meeting, 21 Nov at 20:01 — 20:22 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2017/ubuntu-meeting-2.2017-11-21-20.01.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Apologies === The discussion about "Apologies" started at 20:01. === Action review === The discussion about "Action review" started at 20:01. === Mailing list === The discussion about "Mailing list" started at 20:03. * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2017-October/thread.html * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2017-November/thread.html * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2017-November/thread.html * ''ACTION:'' mdeslaur to follow up on flatpak SRU inquiry * ''ACTION:'' slangasek to follow up on ubuntu-unity-remix === Community bugs === The discussion about "Community bugs" started at 20:13. * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard === Select a chair for the next meeting === The discussion about "Select a chair for the next meeting" started at 20:14. === AOB === The discussion about "AOB" started at 20:18. == Vote results == == Action items, by person == * mdeslaur * mdeslaur to follow up on flatpak SRU inquiry * slangasek * slangasek to follow up on ubuntu-unity-remix == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * slangasek (48) * infinity (16) * mdeslaur (8) * kees (5) * meetingology (5) * stgraber (1) == Full Log == 20:01 #startmeeting 20:01 Meeting started Tue Nov 21 20:01:00 2017 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 20:01 20:01 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 20:01 * stgraber waves 20:01 [TOPIC] Apologies 20:01 no apologies on the mailing list or seen on IRC 20:01 we do have quorum 20:01 [TOPIC] Action review 20:01 these all look familiar 20:02 * slangasek infinity to ask maas team to prepare SRU exception policy à la CurtinUpdates 20:02 * slangasek infinity to play with seed/maint-check changes on dogfood to build a new xenial release pocket for support length auditing (ETA: 16.04.3 release) 20:02 infinity: any updates? 20:02 * mdeslaur waves 20:03 None this time around, sorry. 20:03 * slangasek slangasek to investigate getting tagged ubuntu-community bugs automatically forwarded to technical-board, and if not feasible, fall back to DMB sending signed emails to list for ACL requests 20:03 still carry-over for me as well 20:03 [TOPIC] Mailing list 20:03 [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2017-October/thread.html 20:04 [LINK]https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2017-November/thread.html 20:04 [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2017-November/thread.html 20:04 some unanswered requests from both October and November 20:04 (and also some spam, blech, how did that get through) 20:05 do we want to discuss either the flatpak or ubuntu-unity-remix questions here? would anyone like to take point on following up on either? 20:05 I can respond to the flatpak one 20:06 [ACTION] mdeslaur to follow up on flatpak SRU inquiry 20:06 * meetingology mdeslaur to follow up on flatpak SRU inquiry 20:06 mdeslaur: thanks 20:06 I can take ubuntu-unity-remix 20:06 [ACTION] slangasek to follow up on ubuntu-unity-remix 20:06 * meetingology slangasek to follow up on ubuntu-unity-remix 20:06 I feel like jbicha responded to the flatpak thing? 20:07 Given he's the one who would be doing the SRUs (probably), his input in the short thread seemed reasonable. 20:07 he did but he's not TB; does it need further follow-up / confirmation from us? 20:07 Random people asking for exceptions to make someone else do work aren't useful. :P 20:07 if mdeslaur wants to follow it up, that's fine 20:07 I did have the original message still in my to-reply queue so apparently I thought it still warranted a response :) 20:07 I'll read through it and will respond to either confirm jbicha's response, or add additional info 20:07 * slangasek nods 20:09 I want to have opinions about ubuntu-unity-remix, but I feel like "just let it die" isn't a helpful followup. 20:10 probably not :) 20:10 I figured I would press them for evidence that they're actually maintaining it rather than just saying they'll maintain it 20:11 Well, if they don't have a chunk of the original compiz/unity7 team on their side, I'd say it's just people maintaining a metapackage that points at dead code. 20:11 And I'd rather remove unity from the archive in that instance, not have a flavour. 20:11 my recollection was that there was some vague committment from the Desktop Team to keep unity7 available as an alternative 20:12 I'll track that down and respond on list 20:12 (especially given compiz's bug history, it's not like it's a project that can just go on life support and magically keep working for 5-10 years) 20:13 my gut reaction is similar to yours that unity7 should just be allowed to die peacefully instead of being made a flavor; but I'm not sure with TB hat on it's in order for me to argue that 20:13 so I'll drill down into the specifics 20:13 [TOPIC] Community bugs 20:13 Well, with the T part of the TB hat in play, I think it's entirely valid to demand evidence of *competent* support and upstream commitment for those bits. 20:14 indeed 20:14 All our other desktops have active upstreams, and fairly active downstreams. 20:14 [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard 20:14 zarro boogs 20:14 [TOPIC] Select a chair for the next meeting 20:15 magic 8 ball says: stgraber as chair, infinity as backup 20:15 Y/n? 20:15 ^C 20:15 heh 20:15 * slangasek waves to kees 20:15 super late! 20:15 kees: we were just finishing ;) 20:15 kees: traffic jam? 20:16 Who's that guy? 20:16 sorry, combined confusion over timezones and loud toddler 20:16 kees: Does your toddler observe DST? 20:16 infinity: for longer than I did, yes 20:18 [AGREED] Next TB meeting: Tuesday, Dec 5 @ 20:00 UTC, stgraber to chair, infinity as backup 20:18 [TOPIC] AOB 20:18 anything else? 20:19 I want to know why kees hates us. 20:19 * infinity stares at kees. 20:19 :( 20:20 I thought we established that it was Daylight Savings Toddler 20:20 I just assumed he was on a two-months lkml-fuled bender 20:20 fueled 20:20 argh, I can't type 20:20 None of us can. 20:20 And yet, we do it for a living. 20:21 mdeslaur: well, that's probably not far from the truth 20:22 :) 20:22 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)