== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-meeting-2 Meeting, 12 May at 16:08 — 16:16 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2015/ubuntu-meeting-2.2015-05-12-16.08.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== Action review ===
The discussion about "Action review" started at 16:09.


=== Mailing list archive ===
The discussion about "Mailing list archive" started at 16:09.

  * ''ACTION:'' slangasek to forward complaint to Canonical legal

=== Community bugs ===
The discussion about "Community bugs" started at 16:13.


=== Next chair ===
The discussion about "Next chair" started at 16:14.




== Vote results ==




== Action items, by person ==

 * slangasek
  * slangasek to forward complaint to Canonical legal



== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * mdeslaur (15)
 * pitti (9)
 * infinity (6)
 * slangasek (5)
 * meetingology (4)



== Full Log ==


 16:08 <mdeslaur> #startmeeting

 16:08 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue May 12 16:08:44 2015 UTC.  The chair is mdeslaur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 16:08 <meetingology> 

 16:08 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 16:09 <mdeslaur> [topic] Action review

 16:09 <mdeslaur> None

 16:09 <mdeslaur> [topic] Mailing list archive

 16:09 <mdeslaur> Licensing/patent complaint email

 16:09 <mdeslaur> #action slangasek to forward complaint to Canonical legal

 16:09 * meetingology slangasek to forward complaint to Canonical legal

 16:10 <pitti> so, we obviously can't remove it from stables, but certainly the explicit packages from wily, to show some goodwill

 16:10 <pitti> as for ceph etc., that's a bit "eww"

 16:10 <slangasek> we shouldn't remove anything in the name of "goodwill" without a determination from our legal team

 16:10 <infinity> pitti: Yeah, but we ain't removing ceph and swift, so...

 16:10 <pitti> but "We believe that even a cursory review of the facts surrounding these libraries will make it clear to you that they do not +constitute "Free Software" by any reasonable definition."

 16:10 <pitti> this is very much wrong

 16:11 <pitti> the license is clearly DFSG

 16:11 <pitti> slangasek: right, I didn't mean that we should do it right now, just checking what we even can and can't do, and how much this affects

 16:12 <mdeslaur> ok, does anyone have anything further to discuss about that issue?

 16:13 <infinity> Note that ceph upstream still includes the code in question.

 16:13 <mdeslaur> was there anything else on the list? /me looks

 16:13 <infinity> mdeslaur: Nothing else.

 16:13 <mdeslaur> [topic] Community bugs

 16:13 <pitti> there was an MRE which slangasek ack'ed, nothing else that I can see

 16:13 <mdeslaur> no community bugs

 16:14 <mdeslaur> [topic] Next chair

 16:14 <slangasek> pitti: we do have the capability of removing packages from stable releases when it's legally necessary

 16:14 <slangasek> but it's not a button we push casually

 16:14 <pitti> *nod*

 16:14 <infinity> It's less of a button and more of a hatchet.

 16:14 <infinity> Especially in the case of a full takedown, where we have to alter history.

 16:15 <slangasek> infinity: it's a button connected to a hatchet, like a nuclear reactor SCRAM

 16:15 <infinity> (like we did for that copyright-violating font)

 16:15 <mdeslaur> pitti, you're up for next chair?

 16:15 <pitti> mdeslaur: yes

 16:16 <mdeslaur> ok, does anyone have anything else to discuss?

 16:16 <mdeslaur> #crickets

 16:16 <slangasek> nothing here

 16:16 <mdeslaur> #endmeeting



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