20:34:21 <ebel> #startmeeting 20:34:21 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Feb 6 20:34:21 2013 UTC. The chair is ebel. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 20:34:21 <meetingology> 20:34:21 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 20:34:27 <ebel> Since it's 8:30 20:34:45 <czajkowski> \o/ 20:35:22 <ebel> right please say PRESENT if you're here 20:35:24 <ebel> PRESENT 20:35:29 <andru183_> PRESENT 20:35:30 <Victor9098> PRESENT 20:35:36 <ryano> PRESENT 20:35:38 <barry_> PRESENT 20:36:01 <czajkowski> PRESENT 20:36:19 <ebel> technically the web page for this meeting is here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-ie/532/detail/ 20:37:08 <ebel> right, but in more general, this meeting was called to talk about rebooting the ubuntu ie loco. 20:37:16 <czajkowski> nods 20:37:23 <czajkowski> cheers to everyone for coming along 20:37:52 <ebel> so, any ideas? thoughts? 20:38:08 <czajkowski> well I think it's great to see people for starts 20:38:08 <andru183_> I'd be glad to see a reboot bring life back 20:38:12 <andru183_> and intrest gathered 20:38:13 <ebel> I presume we should have a little bit of a brain storm, so talk away.... 20:38:16 <czajkowski> sp clealry there is an interst in the loco 20:38:26 <czajkowski> I think what we should decide is what we want from the loco 20:38:37 <czajkowski> do we just want it to chat and bounce ubuntu ideas off one another 20:38:41 <czajkowski> a social side of things 20:38:43 <czajkowski> or what 20:38:46 <andru183_> compsoc are psuhing to get more involved with the loco and jams and releases so it would be nice to have a body here 20:38:50 <czajkowski> nods 20:38:56 <czajkowski> andru183_: and that is great to hear 20:39:13 <czajkowski> ryano: barry_ Victor9098 when you hear the word loco and ireland what do you think ? 20:39:19 <andru183_> indeed, been pushing linux inside for a while now and people are really taking to it 20:39:21 <czajkowski> just trying to understand what folks are looking for 20:39:38 <Victor9098> crazy paddies 20:40:12 <czajkowski> heh 20:40:32 <andru183_> for me it would be the online presence and face to face events in a few places. I'd like to see that kept up 20:40:43 <czajkowski> ok hats good to hear 20:40:46 <czajkowski> *thats 20:40:55 <barry_> well , i say about just generalalised ubuntu news for ireland. ie, notifations of linux / ubuntu talks , as well as a way to spread linux /ubuntu / open source in ireland 20:41:13 <czajkowski> nods 20:41:15 <czajkowski> good 20:41:21 <czajkowski> as I think it helps spread news 20:41:25 <czajkowski> and keep people up to date 20:41:38 <czajkowski> so like I've been forwarding on some stuff as on silly amount of lists to the .ie list 20:41:40 <andru183_> yep 20:41:42 <czajkowski> but not sure if thats good or bad 20:41:51 <czajkowski> maybe people use U1 and the notice was useful 20:41:54 <czajkowski> that kinda thing barry 20:41:57 <andru183_> I like the stuff sent on 20:41:58 <czajkowski> or ona larger scale 20:42:06 <andru183_> any bit of notice really 20:42:17 <Victor9098> Yes, I think 'quiet' between meetings has let things drift 20:42:34 <barry_> yea, things like that , however i dont use the notes , was a good post. 20:42:41 <czajkowski> barry_: nods 20:42:44 <andru183_> maybe we could all pass things Ubuntu/Linux related to the mailing lists 20:42:54 <czajkowski> so maybe as a start 20:43:01 <czajkowski> I could post stuff that is happening in Ubuntu land 20:43:01 <andru183_> never know what people are intrested in 20:43:06 <czajkowski> that maybe folks in .ie havent heard about 20:43:09 <andru183_> that's a place??? 20:43:14 <czajkowski> like say Ubutnu users days this weekend ? 20:43:23 <czajkowski> so people can either watch live 20:43:26 <czajkowski> or read the logs afterwards? 20:43:36 <czajkowski> which maybe helps to start up a conversation 20:43:41 <andru183_> great! 20:43:41 <czajkowski> but not helping the face to face bits 20:44:00 <andru183_> events will come, like the release parties and jams 20:44:15 <barry_> the only thing i would say about the mailing list is that some people might be 'reserved about giving out there email - i would say a more facebook/ twitter post would be a good idea about vaious pieces 20:44:18 <andru183_> UH's down here died 20:44:22 <czajkowski> I dont want to interfer too much given I dont live in .ie anymore either 20:44:40 <czajkowski> barry_: good call ok we shall update those places also 20:44:41 <ryano> Being Ireland I think any membership is going to be pretty spread out across and I personally find it impossible to attend any events, on the other hand I've been stalking irc and the mailing for a long time and havnt found a way that I can contribute myself yet 20:44:54 <czajkowski> ryano: ok so let me ask you this 20:45:00 <czajkowski> what way would you like to contribute ? 20:45:42 <czajkowski> tdr112: ebel zmoylan thoughts ? 20:46:19 <ebel> sounds good. 20:46:34 <ryano> I would help out any way in which I could but my linux skills arnt that advance really 20:46:34 <ebel> I mean there is no rules and I hope no-one feels and barriers. 20:46:35 <tdr112> its all well and good talking about these things but you need people to do them 20:46:46 <czajkowski> tdr112: aye which is what it comes down to really 20:46:47 <tdr112> I am not going to put in the time to pass on ubuntu news etc 20:46:55 <ebel> People should feel free to do what they thinks needs doing. 20:47:10 <ebel> and totally agree with tdr112. Talk is low value. Who's going to do something? 20:47:13 <tdr112> i do like meeting up every month or two 20:47:37 <ryano> there definitely isnt a barrier as such, bar myself is what I mean 20:47:54 <czajkowski> ryano: nods 20:48:19 <czajkowski> yeah having people on the ground for face to face events is where it is hard as it's not fair on the same people doing it as it leads to burn out imo 20:48:39 <andru183_> I'd be happy to kick start them again but I'm the Limerick side of things 20:48:45 <andru183_> I used to love the UH's 20:48:52 <andru183_> need people to go tho 20:49:10 <czajkowski> andru183_: so maybe change it from the absolute to somwhere different 20:49:11 <ebel> yep. 20:49:52 <ebel> OK, if you'd like a UH, call one, and go. then the next month or whatever, call one and go. 20:49:54 <andru183_> I've no prob where it goes on TBH, and can look into a netural place like where we had the dinner for skycon 20:50:10 <andru183_> ebel: I'll give it another shot sure 20:51:05 <czajkowski> so why don't we perhaps start there 20:51:11 <czajkowski> andru183_: start off with UH in limerick 20:51:18 <czajkowski> maybe post a short summary after it 20:51:22 <czajkowski> and say how you did it 20:51:31 <czajkowski> so others can do it if there is interest 20:51:33 <andru183_> will do 20:51:43 <tdr112> how much notice do you think we should be giving 20:52:02 <andru183_> stick to the old last thursday of the month or ask the list for input? 20:52:14 <ebel> andru183_: don't ask the list. Just do it. 20:52:19 <ebel> Just do it. 20:52:23 <andru183_> ebel cool 20:52:23 <ebel> Be bold. :) 20:52:26 <andru183_> ha ha 20:52:38 <andru183_> ok you have me now :D 20:52:58 <czajkowski> aye 20:53:12 <Victor9098> Depends on the target audience, if you have a specific group of people you are thinking about just go for it. Routine can come later 20:53:19 <ebel> One could advertise a week or two before then a reminder email the day before 20:53:29 <czajkowski> yeha too much notice and people forget 20:53:45 <ebel> yes, "lots of people want to go, but at different times" is *not* a problem at the moment., 20:54:51 <andru183_> anywhere else? 20:55:07 <czajkowski> andru183_: start in limerick 20:55:11 <czajkowski> and lets go from there :) 20:55:13 <andru183_> ok 20:55:15 <czajkowski> at least for now 20:55:49 <barry_> do you's mean an UH or dinner type thing - The UH were ussualy on irc as well , no? 20:55:59 <andru183_> ubuntu hours 20:56:12 <andru183_> where we meet face to face and talk about ubuntu/geek stuff 20:56:22 <Victor9098> UH usually just a casual face to face 20:56:45 <czajkowski> call it what ever, just a monthly or what ever frequence of face to face chat 20:56:47 <czajkowski> can be over a pint 20:56:54 <czajkowski> cuppa tea 20:56:59 <czajkowski> supermacs 20:57:00 <czajkowski> :) 20:57:09 <Victor9098> But nothing stopping you from broadcasting it at the same time over the web :D 20:57:13 <czajkowski> it's just face to face tme to talk about Ubuntu open source, or what ever 20:57:52 <andru183_> great craic! 20:58:04 <barry_> just talking over a place with your laptop from what ive heard from jono bacon blogs ect 20:58:14 <ebel> it's the offline equivalent of chatting on IRC 20:58:54 <czajkowski> barry_: yup 20:58:57 <czajkowski> pretty much 21:00:26 <ryano> something I was wondering was is there a replacement link for Planet Ubuntu-ie? 21:00:31 <ryano> http://ubuntu-ie.org/aggregator no longer works for me 21:01:16 <czajkowski> not many people were blogging as far as I could tell 21:01:39 <ryano> ah ok :) 21:01:58 <andru183_> ryano would you like to add to it? 21:02:01 <andru183_> I know I would 21:02:02 <czajkowski> we can add more blogs to the loco team portsal though 21:02:05 <czajkowski> thats not an issue 21:02:44 <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds 21:02:47 <czajkowski> add blog feed there 21:02:50 <czajkowski> and I can review it 21:02:56 <czajkowski> well me or the other council folks 21:03:08 <andru183_> cool 21:03:35 <ryano> thank you czajkowski 21:04:04 <ryano> I may consider starting an ubuntu blog in the near future 21:05:04 <ebel> ok 21:05:16 <ebel> if you start blogging don't forget to promote it. :) 21:05:22 <ebel> anyone going to do anything else? 21:05:27 <ryano> Will do 21:08:02 <czajkowski> maybe we can just talk more on the mailing list 21:08:07 <czajkowski> and encourag eothers to talk 21:08:12 <czajkowski> there are a lot on there you know 21:08:18 <JamesSweeney> Hi all, I was wondering if anyone here uses Ubuntu desktop and/or Ubuntu server in their work? 21:08:22 <barry_> what about some type of open blog type thing like a thread on http://www.boards.ie/ and others - just post various intresting things - anyway ubuntu related , linux/ and news pieces. - Can be used to promote UH as well- thoughts ? 21:08:42 <czajkowski> JamesSweeney: I do, but not sure I count - I work for canonical :p 21:08:52 <czajkowski> barry_: good idea 21:08:56 <JamesSweeney> sure :) 21:09:04 <czajkowski> barry_: so why not post them there if andru183_ creates the limerick one 21:09:12 <czajkowski> so just help out and help one antoher rather than it fall to tohers 21:09:16 <czajkowski> if you see it's not too much work 21:09:19 <czajkowski> others may get interested 21:10:17 <ebel> JamesSweeney: yes to both. I've used ubuntu in work for years,. 21:10:30 <ebel> barry_: sure, go for it 21:11:49 <JamesSweeney> apologies if i am hijacking the thread but adopting Ubuntu/linux/open source at work is a great way to promote it 21:12:21 <czajkowski> JamesSweeney: no worries 21:12:26 <czajkowski> I just found thishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/SysAdminSupport 21:12:34 <JamesSweeney> ebel cool. it would be great to chat and compare experiences 21:12:35 <czajkowski> forgot I started that a while back 21:13:33 <barry_> yea , i have no problem with it, anybopdy with a standard account can post as well to make it easy - so for example there was something about richard from GNU coming to do some talk in dublin , things like that somebody can pop in and post as well as people who already are on boards.ie. One thing i saw was Mark Shuttleworth visted trinity and done some speach , However i only saw this after the event. Ill start a post and ask one of 21:13:43 <barry_> the top in the unix section 21:14:06 <ebel> right, so andru183_'s gonna try to do more UH in limerick, right? 21:14:09 <ebel> anything else? 21:14:29 <czajkowski> I'l post more stuff to the -ie list about global ubuntu stuff happening 21:14:37 <andru183_> ebel: yep 21:14:41 <czajkowski> JamesSweeney: care to take your topic to the list and see if we can get more people talking on there? 21:14:53 <czajkowski> JamesSweeney: the idea being we might get more people who lurk on the list to talk 21:14:59 <czajkowski> and maybe want to talk face to face after a few emails 21:15:30 <ebel> JamesSweeney: sure, poke me sometime 21:16:03 <JamesSweeney> will do. cheers. 21:16:05 <ebel> Right, any other actions or shall we move on to the other topic on the agenda? 21:16:30 <ebel> or and maybe barry_ will post on boards.ie (did I read you right?) 21:16:42 <czajkowski> I'm all good 21:17:14 <barry_> yea, ill do it later on 21:17:32 <ebel> so that's it for reboot actions? 21:17:42 <andru183_> seems so 21:18:15 <czajkowski> oh 21:18:18 <czajkowski> the naming bit 21:18:23 <czajkowski> barry_: was that your idea? 21:18:24 <andru183_> ............ 21:18:27 <andru183_> oh ya......... 21:18:29 <ebel> czajkowski: yeah that's the second topic I was gonna move on to now 21:18:30 <czajkowski> the S series? 21:18:33 <czajkowski> ah sory 21:18:35 <czajkowski> dont mind me 21:18:54 <ebel> ok, we'll move onto that now. Name! Go! 21:19:15 <andru183_> do we want it Irish tied?? 21:19:17 <czajkowski> barry_: firstly well done great idea! 21:19:34 <barry_> yea, the letter is s - last year it was named on the 23rd of april , so arounnd if we want to put in something , we got to decide really 21:19:35 <czajkowski> secondly mind if I nick your original email and add it to my blog - crediting you of course 21:19:44 <czajkowski> and see if we can get some more suggestsions? 21:20:08 <barry_> yea, no problem at all , 21:21:03 <czajkowski> cheers 21:21:16 <Victor9098> I was expecting a break in tradition... maybe a 'Super Shuttleworth' ;) 21:21:30 <czajkowski> lol 21:22:09 <barry_> there is 3 proposed suggestions - Tommy said -Supreme Sionnach (shun-ach.) and sublime sionnach. Sionnach being Irish for fox, and sublime:" Of such excellence, grandeur, or beauty as to inspire great admiration or awe." 21:22:24 <barry_> mark suggested sublime songbird. 21:23:13 <Victor9098> The Irish themed S is a superb idea, he likes to bring attention to endangered species at the same time. So if we do make a case for Sionnach we could link it to charities etc 21:23:25 <andru183_> cool 21:23:32 <czajkowski> Victor9098: oh nice idea 21:24:32 <barry_> i'm no expert on irish wild life so , any thing else. The old irish lengeds idea by tommy seem a good idea -imo 21:25:13 <Victor9098> Though we run the risk of casual observers making it seem like a overt nod to Mozilla, but I think the Sionnach / Irish connection should overcome that 21:25:44 <czajkowski> barry_: see pm 21:26:36 <Victor9098> Before we decide on the descriptor we should see what Mark/dev have been hinting for 13.10 too, that way we could be try to get a good fit for what they want to achieve 21:27:08 <Victor9098> If we ONLY had somebody on the inside of Canonical... 21:27:17 <czajkowski> lol 21:27:18 <andru183_> darn the luck! 21:27:21 <czajkowski> nout to do with us 21:27:22 <barry_> well , its the last trail run before the big , really big 14.04 lts 21:28:11 <czajkowski> nods 21:29:27 <ebel> OK 21:29:46 <Victor9098> sinuous sionnach 21:30:48 <barry_> marks wants to change the whole idea of a hoobyist or server linux idea - he wants to bring it to the masses 14.04 will be his prize to show why. 13.10 he will want stability so he can run into 14.04 stable 21:31:18 <ebel> so we have >1 suggestion, right? So does only one have to be suggested? Or more than one? If >1 can be suggested, why not suggest them all> 21:31:20 <ebel> ? 21:31:49 <czajkowski> we can have as many as we like tbh 21:32:17 <Victor9098> He likes to surprise people with the name in his blog... us talking about it publicly might automatically rule our ideas out? 21:32:53 <czajkowski> we probably wont get picked 21:33:00 <czajkowski> but it at least shows we're active and discssing new things 21:33:05 <barry_> he might mix the Sionnach idea with something others have suggested 21:33:08 <Victor9098> Yes, agreed 21:34:01 <Victor9098> Blog post promoting the name and a few good reasons pointing to causes will only bring the right attention to the Ubuntu-ie loco 21:34:16 <ebel> ok 21:34:35 <czajkowski> cool 21:34:36 <ebel> who wants to (a) make a suggestion and (b) promote the fact that people in ireland are making suggestions? 21:35:02 <czajkowski> me 21:35:07 <czajkowski> will add it to my blog 21:35:12 <czajkowski> then we can add it to the twitter ac 21:35:23 <ebel> kewl. go go czajkowski! 21:35:24 <Victor9098> Sounds good 21:35:42 <Victor9098> Expect a retweet ;-) 21:36:52 <ebel> kewl 21:37:02 <ebel> so is there anything else to discuss at this meeting? 21:37:03 <barry_> i would say he would appericate a community effort 21:37:07 <ebel> or shall we wrap it up? 21:37:24 <czajkowski> wrap up I think 21:37:33 <czajkowski> and maybe aim to have another meeting in a month 21:37:39 <czajkowski> evne if just to hang out 21:37:43 <czajkowski> we could do a G+ hangout 21:37:51 <czajkowski> if there is only >10 21:38:09 <Victor9098> Hangouts are a laugh, I'll go for that 21:38:51 <ebel> ok 21:39:00 <Victor9098> New meaning to UH (Ubuntu Hangout) 21:39:05 <ebel> heh 21:39:05 <barry_> when they do ubuntu on air , do they use the irc or the youtube comments or what to get questions? 21:39:06 <czajkowski> thanks ebel for chairing 21:39:13 <czajkowski> barry_: irc 21:39:13 <ebel> someone promote it in a while 21:39:15 <ebel> :) 21:39:16 <andru183_> if anyone knows people down the Limerick side of things they might pass this on to promote the UH if that's cool http://skynet.ie/~andru183/how-ive-found-being-a-member-of-ubuntu-ireland/ 21:39:17 <czajkowski> wilko 21:39:17 <ebel> #endmeeting