14:32 <kenvandine> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2021-03-02
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14:32 <didrocks> hey hey
14:32 <kenvandine> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out), hellsworth
14:32 <hellsworth> o/
14:32 <marcustomlinson> \o
14:32 <jibel> o/
14:32 <oSoMoN> 🐸/
14:32 <Trevinho> o/
14:32 <seb128> _o/
14:32 <kenvandine> i hope everyone is having a great March so far ;-D
14:32 <kenvandine> let's dive right in
14:33 <kenvandine> #topic rls-hh-bugs
14:33 <kenvandine> nothing incoming
14:34 <kenvandine> tracking is fine
14:35 <kenvandine> #topic rls-gg-bugs
14:35 <kenvandine> bug 1913333
14:35 <ubot5> bug 1913333 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Calc auto-filter menu inaccessible with fractional scaling enabled" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1913333
14:36 <hellsworth> i was unable to reproduce this one and wondered if Trevino had any thoughts
14:37 <seb128> one report, not confirmed, -1 for rls for me
14:37 <kenvandine> agreed
14:37 <kenvandine> hellsworth: ping Trevinho after the meeting to see if he has ideas
14:37 <Trevinho> we can definitely check it more, let's leave it around for reports
14:38 <hellsworth> ok
14:39 <kenvandine> bug 1914374
14:39 <ubot5> bug 1914374 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Multiple issues on HP ZBook 15 G7 after installing 20.04.2 image" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1914374
14:39 <kenvandine> thats on gg tracking but not assigned
14:40 <seb128> sounds like it should be assigned to that oem guy?
14:40 <seb128> or tseliot_
14:40 <seb128> or wontfix for G, I doubt we care much about oem issues there?
14:41 <kenvandine> yeah
14:41 <Laney> the installer bit should be for sure
14:42 <Laney> ubuntu-drivers is a bit dodgy because the versions go backwards
14:44 <kenvandine> i think won't fix for both?
14:45 <kenvandine> if i'm reading it right, it's all around what happens at install time
14:45 <kenvandine> question is does this effect upgraders and is upgrades from LTS to non-LTS rls worthy?
14:47 <Laney> it's fine to wontfix but tseliot_ still need to SRU something so that the versions are in the right order f < g < h, and I guess it might as well be this
14:48 <kenvandine> bug 1915161
14:48 <ubot5> bug 1915161 in duplicity (Ubuntu Groovy) "deja dup won't restore a folder where name contains apostrophe and space" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1915161
14:49 <kenvandine> fix is upstream, do we want to SRU that patch?
14:50 <seb128> I wouldn't bother about G at this point
14:50 <seb128> time the SRU gets reviewed and verified we will be off to the next serie
14:50 <kenvandine> ok +1 on that
14:51 <kenvandine> well -1 on the bug :)
14:51 <kenvandine> moving on
14:51 <kenvandine> #topic rls-ff-bugs
14:53 <kenvandine> bug 1883886
14:53 <ubot5> bug 1883886 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) " Print dialogue's height in Libreoffice Writer is too high to see and click buttons." [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1883886
14:54 <kenvandine> hellsworth: ^^
14:54 <seb128> it's marked fix commited?
14:54 <kenvandine> yeah, but it's not
14:54 <kenvandine> upstream yes
14:54 <hellsworth> it was yes.. i admit that i didn't really understand the last comment
14:55 <kenvandine> looks like it will be in 7.2
14:55 <hellsworth> can ping ricotz about it
14:55 <kenvandine> please do
14:55 <Laney> it sounds worth queueing up for the next sru
14:55 <kenvandine> i think the bug status needs to be changed
14:55 <Laney> I would nominate and assign if you agree with that
14:55 <kenvandine> fix committed feels wrong
14:55 <seb128> depends how you use fix commited
14:55 <seb128> I've always been using it for GNOME packages for when a fix is commited upstream
14:55 <Laney> I think it's because Fix Released bugs stop showing up on any rls ff list
14:55 <hellsworth> ok i'll change it to in progress and ping rico
14:56 <seb128> best way to be able to follow up and close things with $nextupdate
14:56 <Laney> it sounds like it is Fix Released but not in any stable series
14:56 <kenvandine> right, it should be tracked for the SRU when 7.2 is released
14:56 <kenvandine> imo
14:56 <seb128> unsure if the change would apply easily to old series or if it's an UI change
14:56 <kenvandine> when will 7.2 be released?
14:56 <Laney> well then it can always be closed out again
14:57 <hellsworth> will release in August
14:57 <seb128> well, we are reviewing whether we accept is a rls item we want to try
14:57 <seb128> my gut feeling is that it's not important enough to make it into our backlog realistically
14:58 <seb128> would still be nice to fix but I would -1 for the rls nomination
14:58 <kenvandine> i guess we know we'll get it in may
14:58 <kenvandine> even without tracking it
14:58 <seb128> not for focal
14:58 <Laney> not to focal we won't
14:58 <kenvandine> oh right
14:58 <kenvandine> i think we should at least see how much work it would be to backport that patch
14:58 <seb128> we need at some point to start balancing rls nominations approval to available resources to deal with what we accept
14:59 <seb128> but that's not something we will resolve now
14:59 <kenvandine> having the buttons off screen is hard to work around
14:59 <kenvandine> that dialog doesn't scroll
14:59 <kenvandine> i've battled this in the past myself :)
14:59 <hellsworth> well for focal maybe it should be wont fix unless upstream backports the fix to the 6.4 branch
15:00 <hellsworth> not ideal but you *can* hit enter even if you can't see the button and it will print
15:00 <seb128> kenvandine, your call :) I agree it would be nice to fix, we would just need 30 people in the team to be able to fix all the 'would be nice to fix' issues we are crossing
15:01 <seb128> it's also impacting only low vertical resolutions
15:01 <seb128> which is not most users
15:01 <seb128> anyway
15:01 <hellsworth> affects only 4 folks in 6 months
15:01 <seb128> we argued enough, we should just just decided +1 or -1 and move on
15:02 <kenvandine> ok, -1 then
15:02 <hellsworth> i would say -1 with the caveat that I'll ping rico and see what he thinks
15:02 <kenvandine> it doesn't effect 768?
15:02 <hellsworth> what is 768?
15:03 <kenvandine> pixels high
15:03 <kenvandine> looks like it does
15:03 <kenvandine> 1366x768 is one of the most common sizes
15:03 <hellsworth> ok ty
15:03 <kenvandine> one of the comments made me think it didn't fit on that
15:03 <kenvandine> ok, moving on
15:05 <kenvandine> tracking seems in order
15:05 <kenvandine> #topic rls-bb-bugs
15:06 <kenvandine> nothing incoming
15:06 <kenvandine> tracking seems in order
15:06 <kenvandine> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
15:07 <kenvandine> anything to be concerned with?
15:07 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
15:07 <kenvandine> i see an eds transition, that's fun
15:08 <seb128> right, indicator-datetime needs to be fixed
15:09 <seb128> (I reported that upstream on https://github.com/AyatanaIndicators/ayatana-indicator-datetime/issues/23 also)
15:09 <seb128> some minors rebuilts still needed
15:09 <kenvandine> thanks
15:09 <seb128> poppler is ready to migrate once libreoffice 7.1.1 gets uploaded hopefully
15:10 <seb128> there was some request to ignore the test and let it migrated but that didn't get acked
15:10 <seb128> other are flaky tests mostly
15:10 <hellsworth> but 7.1.1 is in proposed already
15:10 <hellsworth> oh you mean uploaded to the archive
15:10 <seb128> no
15:10 <seb128> Rico stacked the fix in the packaging vcs
15:11 <seb128> but he said he wouldn't do another upload before 7.1.1 proper, we currently have a ~rc
15:11 <seb128> kenvandine, I think we can move on, there is nothing that needs to be assigned at this point afaik
15:11 <seb128> things are being worked on or need a retry
15:11 <kenvandine> ok
15:11 <kenvandine> #topic aob
15:13 <kenvandine> going once
15:13 <kenvandine> twice
15:13 <kenvandine> ok, thanks folks
15:13 <kenvandine> #endmeeting