14:33 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2021-01-19
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14:33 * Laney gets the football out
14:33 <Laney> oh
14:33 <Laney> :(
14:33 <seb128> Laney, you wish :p
14:33 <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk
14:33 <marcustomlinson> \o
14:33 <Trevinho> o/
14:33 <callmepk> o/
14:33 <hellsworth> o/
14:33 <oSoMoN> ⚽/
14:33 <jibel> \o
14:34 <kenvandine> o/
14:34 <seb128> oSoMoN, football time?
14:34 <oSoMoN> Laney said so
14:34 <seb128> k, let's kick in!
14:34 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug
14:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:35 <seb128> no desktop there
14:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:35 <seb128> bug 1911473
14:35 <ubot5> bug 1911473 in flatpak (Ubuntu Focal) "Update for ghsa-4ppf-fxf6-vxg2" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1911473
14:36 <seb128> (why is flatpak on our set?)
14:37 <kenvandine> no idea
14:37 <kenvandine> never seen it show up before
14:37 <seb128> probably because MIR process request us to subscribe before the MIR is approved
14:37 <Laney> yep
14:37 <seb128> bug #1812456
14:37 <kenvandine> although i've been sponsoring flatpak
14:37 <ubot5> bug 1812456 in flatpak (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libflatpak0" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1812456
14:37 <seb128> that's backward and I've been argued about it in the past, but here is not the right place to do it
14:37 <seb128> I will bring that again to the MIR team
14:38 <Laney> kenvandine: want to take this sponsoring anyway to be nice? :-)
14:38 <seb128> anyway
14:38 <seb128> there is a CVE reference
14:38 <Laney> or if it's security maybe you can't and the security sponsors need to be subscribed
14:38 <seb128> so we should probably check with the security team?
14:38 <Laney> oh they are
14:38 <Laney> ok
14:38 <Laney> nothing to do probably :p
14:38 <kenvandine> i think ahayzen already is
14:39 <oSoMoN> maybe ask Andrew if he intends to do the bionic update too?
14:39 <seb128> I will just assing to ahayzen who is already assigned for other series
14:39 <seb128> he just got voluntered :p
14:40 <seb128> ok, moving on
14:40 <seb128> bug #1912168
14:40 <ubot5> bug 1912168 in ppp (Ubuntu Groovy) "please merge ppp 2.4.9 for 21.04 and then consider ipv6 default fix for SRU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1912168
14:41 <oSoMoN> it's not even done/accepted for hirsute yet
14:41 <seb128> cpaelzer targetted it, it seems like a merge we should do and maybe a fix to SRU but the description doesn't convince me it's a rls issue
14:42 <Laney> yeah I dunno, it doesn't really describe the impact
14:42 <seb128> without more rational on why it should be a rls target I would vote -1
14:42 <Laney> i'd be ok with carding it instead I guess
14:43 <seb128> trello would be ok, but if it's just a merge to do then I'm unsure why it would deserve a special process
14:44 <Laney> to make it not get lost
14:44 <Laney> but ok
14:44 <Laney> as you wish, I don't really care
14:44 <seb128> I'm going to ask for details and reject the targetting for now
14:45 <seb128> if someone wants to trello card feel free, I don't feel like it deserves special attention compared to other merges or issues in launchpad
14:45 <Laney> I don't think we have any process which is like
14:45 <Laney> make sure all of the desktop packages are merged
14:46 <Laney> anyway we could solve that separately I guess
14:47 <seb128> right
14:47 <seb128> sorry, I commented now so I don't forgot
14:47 <seb128> ok, that's it for B
14:48 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug
14:48 <seb128> bug #1911802
14:48 <ubot5> bug 1911802 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Video glitches playing hardware accelerated video through VAAPI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1911802
14:49 <seb128> tjaalton, ^ could you review this one?
14:50 <tjaalton> sure
14:50 <seb128> if it's a SRU regression I would tend to say we should accept nomination
14:50 <seb128> other opinions?
14:50 <seb128> tjaalton, thanks
14:51 <Laney> right, agreed about sru regressions
14:51 <seb128> k, let's accept it
14:52 <seb128> tjaalton, we can always untarget if it turns out to not be needed
14:52 <seb128> k, let's move on
14:53 <seb128> it would be better to have Wimpress for the kernel vs hwe one
14:53 <seb128> unsure what's the intend there
14:54 <seb128> let's skip for this for now
14:54 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:55 <Laney> we don't need to skip, that's the design
14:55 <seb128> could you comment on the bug to say so?
14:55 <tjaalton> it'll get fixed in 6mo by the next backport but best to at least try to fix it before..
14:56 <seb128> tjaalton, right, that would be better if possible
14:56 <Laney> Łukasz already did
14:56 <Laney> I think we need to update the referenced documentation though, I will make a note to raise that
14:56 <seb128> Laney, oh, right, thanks ;-)
14:56 <seb128> thx
14:56 <seb128> k, rls tracking
14:57 <seb128> bug #191143 is for callmepk, I'm going to assign to him
14:57 <ubot5> bug 191143 in zope.sendmail "queuedDelivery should be overridable" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191143
14:57 <seb128> bug #1911432 rather
14:57 <ubot5> bug 1911432 in wslu (Ubuntu Focal) "[SRU] wslu 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 to focal" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1911432
14:57 <seb128> and that's it then for focal
14:57 <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug
14:57 <callmepk> okay
14:58 <seb128> callmepk, thanks :-)
14:58 <seb128> callmepk, I meant to follow up on that, I think the regression potential and testcase sections need to be a bit more detailled since it's a non trivial update
14:58 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:58 <seb128> one bug there assigned to Marco to clean up
14:59 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:59 <callmepk> Okay, I will update it seb128
14:59 <Trevinho> yeah, i've to re-review upstream PR
14:59 <seb128> bug #1911236
14:59 <ubot5> bug 1911236 in emacs (Ubuntu Groovy) "emacs FTBFS on s390x because of a failing unit test" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1911236
15:00 <oSoMoN> this can probably be marked wontfix for groovy
15:00 <seb128> wfm
15:00 <oSoMoN> but I still need to look into it for hirsute
15:00 <seb128> you are working on it? should it be assigned?
15:00 <oSoMoN> yeah, I'll assign myself
15:01 <oSoMoN> done
15:01 <seb128> thx
15:01 <seb128> k, that's it for G
15:01 <seb128> #topic rls-hh-bug
15:03 <seb128> Trevinho, could you check if the gnome-shell one status and triage as needed?
15:03 <seb128> unsure there is enough details to accept it as a rls issue atm
15:04 <Trevinho> ok
15:04 <seb128> thx
15:04 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html
15:05 <seb128> nothing needed there
15:05 <Trevinho> only wayland one it seems though
15:05 <Trevinho> so not sure if rls
15:05 <seb128> probably not, unless we change the default session which we were talking about doing
15:05 <Trevinho> at least so says the upstream reference
15:05 <seb128> but it's getting late in the cycle...
15:06 <Trevinho> well maybe we've still time for that since we're probably not going with 4'
15:06 <Trevinho> 40*
15:06 <seb128> we should discuss what we do again
15:06 <Trevinho> it can be a good test bed
15:06 <seb128> right, let's put that on the agenda for maybe the friday team meeting
15:06 <Trevinho> ok
15:06 <seb128> or emails
15:07 <seb128> it doesn't feel like we have the right people atm
15:07 <seb128> k, let's move on
15:07 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
15:07 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
15:08 <Laney> I retried libreoffice for dpkg but it's not the only thing blocking that anyway
15:08 <seb128> nothing obvious on the list, probably some flaky tests and issues that should be investigated but I don't think we will get value reviewing that list now
15:09 <seb128> didrocks, the zsys build failure seems real, maybe one you could poke at?
15:09 <seb128> zfs.c:136:43: error: incompatible type for argument 3 of ‘zfs_rename’
15:09 <hellsworth> thanks Laney for looking at LO.. i'll take a look today
15:10 <seb128> k, let's move on, I will card things if needed for proposed migration
15:10 <seb128> also a topic I would like to discuss in the friday meetings
15:11 <seb128> we probably don't get much value reviewing that list in the meeting, might be best to just get trello card created and assigned outside the IRC meeting
15:11 <seb128> #topic AOB
15:11 <seb128> anything other topic?
15:11 <Laney> I don't mind moving things out of the meeting if they still actually keep on happening
15:13 <seb128> we often fail to act on the proposed migration issues in the meeting anyway, even with that section
15:13 <didrocks> (toc toc toc, is this is on now?)
15:13 <didrocks> thing*
15:13 <seb128> didrocks, it's ON!
15:13 <didrocks> \o/
15:13 <seb128> :-)
15:13 <didrocks> I can SPEAK now :p
15:13 <kenvandine> :)
15:13 <marcustomlinson> spam!
15:13 <didrocks> seb128: agreed
15:13 <seb128> damn, didrocks escaped the mute sandbox
15:13 <didrocks> heh
15:14 <Laney> ok
15:14 <seb128> k, feels like we are done :-)
15:15 <seb128> thanks desktopers!
15:15 <kenvandine> thanks
15:15 <marcustomlinson> thanks
15:15 <seb128> #endmeeting