== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-11-24, 24 Nov at 14:30 — 14:51 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-11-24-14.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== rls-bb-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-bb-bug" started at 14:31.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-ff-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-ff-bug" started at 14:33.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-gg-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-gg-bug" started at 14:38.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-hh-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-hh-bug" started at 14:42.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages ===
The discussion about "update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages" started at 14:47.

  * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 

=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 14:47.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * seb128 (66)
 * luna_ (11)
 * hellsworth (10)
 * oSoMoN (3)
 * ubot5 (3)
 * meetingology (3)
 * RikMills (3)
 * kenvandine (2)
 * callmepk (1)
 * didrocks (1)
 * jibel (1)
 * marcustomlinson (1)
 * tjaalton (1)



== Full Log ==


 14:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-11-24

 14:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 24 14:30:33 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 14:30 <meetingology> 

 14:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 14:30 <luna_> should be around now i think? but i can be wrong

 14:30 <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk

 14:30 <luna_> *here*

 14:30 <oSoMoN> \o

 14:30 <callmepk> o/

 14:30 <hellsworth> o/

 14:31 <marcustomlinson> \o

 14:31 <didrocks> o/

 14:31 <seb128> tjaalton, the power button behaviour shouldn't have change no, that's in an Ubuntu (GNOME) session?

 14:31 <seb128> k, let's get started

 14:31 <jibel> o/

 14:31 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug

 14:31 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:32 <luna_> Fix Committed

 14:32 <kenvandine> o/

 14:32 <seb128> also it affects only bionic and fix is uploaded

 14:32 <seb128> I untagged now

 14:32 <tjaalton> seb128: yes, I'll file abug

 14:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:32 <seb128> tjaalton, thanks

 14:33 <seb128> only unassigned is the same wpa one

 14:33 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug

 14:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:33 <seb128> k, just noise that needs untagging there

 14:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:33 <seb128> bug #1901609

 14:33 <ubot5> bug 1901609 in signon (Ubuntu Hirsute) "signond causes qprocess crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901609

 14:34 <seb128> that's on our report because we used that in unity time

 14:34 <seb128> that's a kde issue it seems

 14:34 <seb128> -1 for us to take on that one since it doesn't impact our desktop

 14:35 <luna_> but try to notify KDE Neon or Kubuntu developers about it?

 14:35 <seb128> yes, also seems like there is a suggested fix, I'm going to subscribe sponsors

 14:36 <seb128> -1 from me, other opinions?

 14:36 <hellsworth> i would say -1 unless it causes a crash increase in errors.u.c

 14:37 <seb128> RikMills, ^ is that one you could handle perhaps?

 14:37 <hellsworth> like a large increase. enough to warrant attention

 14:37 <seb128> doesn't seem so

 14:37 <seb128> k, let's decline for us and move on

 14:37 <luna_> yeah try to give it to RikMills and jriddel maybe and the people that does KDE based things

 14:38 <seb128> that's it for focal

 14:38 <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug

 14:38 <seb128> the one there is assigned and fix commited upstream so needs untagging

 14:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:39 <seb128> bluez on is incomplete and not for us

 14:39 <seb128> signon we just discussed

 14:39 <seb128> bug #1903574

 14:39 <ubot5> bug 1903574 in appstream (Ubuntu Groovy) "isenkram-lookup crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903574

 14:39 <seb128> Gunnar cares about it but I'm -1 for our team

 14:40 <seb128> isenkram-lookup isn't something really used

 14:40 <RikMills> seb128: neon devs have already pinged me about signod. I will try to get to it this week

 14:40 <seb128> and it seems to be a bug in gobject-introspection and being discussed

 14:40 <RikMills> *signond

 14:40 <oSoMoN> it'd be good to know whether there are other more common ways to trigger this crash

 14:40 <seb128> RikMills, can I assign it to you? it's showing on our report because it's targetted and unassigned

 14:40 <RikMills> feel free

 14:40 <seb128> RikMills, thx

 14:41 <seb128> the patch seems trivial, removing a compiler flag from the build system

 14:41 <luna_> i have never even heard isenkram but it seems like the Upstream developers is working on it: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gobject-introspection/-/issues/305

 14:42 <seb128> let's skip until we get more details, it seems worked on anyway

 14:42 <seb128> that's it for G

 14:42 <seb128> #topic rls-hh-bug

 14:42 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:42 <seb128> bug #1785262

 14:42 <ubot5> bug 1785262 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "arm64 autopkgtests are flaky" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785262

 14:42 <seb128> L_aney tagged this one

 14:42 <hellsworth> just assigned myself

 14:42 <seb128> it has an impact on infra and I think we should fix but I'm -1 on rls

 14:43 <seb128> it's not impacting users and not an ubuntu release target issue

 14:43 <seb128> hellsworth, thanks

 14:43 <seb128> do people think it needs to be targetted or not?

 14:43 <hellsworth> i pointed r_icotz too to get his opinion. i don't think it needs to be targeted

 14:43 <seb128> thx

 14:44 <hellsworth> well but it should be fixed by april though just because that's a long time

 14:44 <hellsworth> so maybe we should target it..

 14:44 <oSoMoN> no need for targetting indeed

 14:44 <luna_> it depends on how many people use libreoffice on ARM64 on Raspberry Pis, Banana Boards, Beagleboards and all that they are called i guess, but as long as its stable and works for when a new image is released

 14:45 <seb128> yeah, it's more an infrastructure issue

 14:45 <hellsworth> i vote -1 for targeting and will work on it anyways

 14:45 <seb128> the tests are slow and eat resources

 14:45 <seb128> seems reasonable, I've tagged notfixing wiht a comment

 14:46 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:46 <seb128> the signond one

 14:46 <hellsworth> thanks

 14:46 <luna_> +1 hellsworth you know best i am not doing ARM things, only ISO testing x64 images and helping with Swedish translations a voluenteer :p

 14:46 <hellsworth> thanks luna_ :)

 14:46 <seb128> others are assigned

 14:47 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 14:47 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 14:47 <seb128> k, that list is still not reviewable, perl and python transitions are ongoing

 14:47 <seb128> I'm on +1 rotation today and tomorrow so will review it and note things if needed

 14:47 <seb128> #topic AOB

 14:47 <seb128> anything else?

 14:47 <luna_> There was a newer mesa today for the others i don't have any comments

 14:48 <luna_> was wondering about December meetings? Are we/you gonna have them the whole December, or is there any xmas/new years break and such?

 14:49 <seb128> depends of when people are off

 14:49 <kenvandine> we won't have a meeting on the 29th

 14:49 <seb128> but we will probably at least skip the 29th

 14:49 <luna_> ah alright

 14:50 <seb128> anything else?

 14:51 <seb128> seems not, then it's a wrap!

 14:51 <seb128> thanks everyone

 14:51 <seb128> #endmeeting



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