== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-20, 20 Oct at 13:30 — 13:56 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-10-20-13.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== rls-bb-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-bb-bug" started at 13:31.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-ff-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-ff-bug" started at 13:32.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-gg-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-gg-bug" started at 13:38.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gtk-common-themes/-/issues/21 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages ===
The discussion about "update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages" started at 13:48.

  * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 

=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 13:49.

  * ''LINK:'' https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/20-10-release-candidate-isos-ready-for-testing/18894 
  * ''LINK:'' https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-gorilla-release-notes right?



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * seb128 (81)
 * kenvandine (12)
 * hellsworth (10)
 * Laney (8)
 * ubot5 (5)
 * jibel (4)
 * meetingology (3)
 * didrocks (2)
 * Trevinho (2)
 * callmepk (1)
 * marcustomlinson (1)



== Full Log ==


 13:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-20

 13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 20 13:30:29 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 13:30 <meetingology> 

 13:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 13:30 <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk

 13:30 <kenvandine> o/

 13:30 <marcustomlinson> \o

 13:30 <Trevinho> hola

 13:31 <hellsworth> good morning desktopers

 13:31 <hellsworth> o/

 13:31 <callmepk> o/

 13:31 <jibel> o~

 13:31 <jibel> Good morning hellsworth

 13:31 <seb128> k, seems like we have enough people to get started!

 13:31 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug

 13:31 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:31 <seb128> no desktop entry

 13:32 <didrocks> hey

 13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 13:32 <seb128> those are assigned

 13:32 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug

 13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:32 <seb128> bug #1899262

 13:32 <ubot5> bug 1899262 in wpa (Ubuntu) "Broken dbus GetAll message to wpa supplicant interface properties" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899262

 13:33 <seb128> seems like foundation got pinged about it, I will follow up with them to know if they are owning the issue

 13:34 <seb128> bug #1886092

 13:34 <ubot5> bug 1886092 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice doesn't list gpg private key for a digital signature due to apparmor" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1886092

 13:34 <seb128> I tagged this one, the apparmor profile from the deb blocks gpg communication it seems

 13:35 <seb128> unsure how common signing documents is but it sounds like something we would like to fix in a LTS since that's a problem we created

 13:35 <hellsworth> it would be nice to have that fixed

 13:35 <seb128> +1 from me to nominate in case that's not obvious from what I said there

 13:35 <hellsworth> i agree

 13:35 <kenvandine> +1

 13:35 <hellsworth> but this vote is not to have it fixed by release time right?

 13:35 <seb128> k, nominating then, thanks

 13:36 <hellsworth> since that's in 2 days

 13:36 <seb128> that's focal we are reviewing (LTS)

 13:36 <hellsworth> oh right yes

 13:36 <seb128> that was released in april :)

 13:36 <hellsworth> my bad

 13:36 <seb128> but yeah, just something for the next SRU round imho

 13:36 <seb128> thanks!

 13:37 <seb128> that's it for focal incoming (the other bug it's a leftover that needs triaging)

 13:37 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 13:37 <seb128> that list a some cleanups needed, I will handle those

 13:38 <seb128> nothing needing discussion

 13:38 <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug

 13:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:38 <seb128> the snap/wayland thing is leftover

 13:39 <seb128> kenvandine, James mentioned that it could be workarounded in snapd potentially, should we try to do that even if there is a fix pending for GNOME?

 13:39 <seb128> unsure if other distros are likely to get the patch included in their incoming releases

 13:39 <seb128> would suck to have graphical snaps not working on e.g fedora 33 default session

 13:40 <kenvandine> yeah... but snapd releases take time too

 13:40 <kenvandine> i'll ask him what he thinks

 13:40 <Laney> that should be rls accepted though I'd say

 13:40 <kenvandine> i'd agree

 13:40 <kenvandine> but what about other distros

 13:41 <seb128> @Laney, right, that's what I meant by leftover, it failed to be properly triaged previous meeting

 13:41 <Laney> ah

 13:42 <seb128> we said we would accept it

 13:42 <kenvandine> seb128: where did james say it could be worked around in snapd?

 13:42 <seb128> I will try again (sometime I just keep things to not delay the meeting and get distracted, and sometime launchpad fails and I don't notice)

 13:42 <seb128> kenvandine, he said so on IRC, that snapd could do something similar to flatpak

 13:42 <kenvandine> ah

 13:42 <seb128> like bindmount the socket or something, unsure what they are doing exactly

 13:42 <Laney> it should in the medium term, that's what Simon says on the MR too

 13:43 <Laney> but hoepfully that can be merged as a quick(er) fix

 13:43 <seb128> right

 13:43 <kenvandine> cool, i'll check with him

 13:43 <seb128> k, moving on

 13:43 <seb128> bug #1898005

 13:43 <ubot5> bug 1898005 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT in st_bin_destroy: assertion failed: (priv->child == NULL) called from DesktopManager::_destroyDesktopIcons()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898005

 13:43 <seb128> I tagged this one

 13:43 <seb128> it's unclear to me if it's wayland specific, some reports claim so

 13:43 <seb128> but it has a stack of duplicates and seems easy to trigger with remote mounts in e.g nautilus

 13:44 <seb128> I'm +1 to accept since it's a crash and it's common, even if wayland isn't the default session

 13:44 <seb128> opinions?

 13:44 <Trevinho> assume is mine

 13:44 <seb128> Trevinho, thanks

 13:45 <seb128> bug #1900334

 13:45 <ubot5> bug 1900334 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] Mouse pointer theme and scaling not honoured for cursor themes not included in gtk-common-themes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900334

 13:45 <seb128> I tagged it but failed to untag

 13:45 <seb128> it got some debugging since and turned out to be specific to some themes and not a regression

 13:45 <seb128> so let's skip, I'm untagging it

 13:46 <seb128> kenvandine, would still be nice to include whiteglass in gtk-common-themes, do you want a trello card or something for that?

 13:46 <seb128> ah

 13:46 <kenvandine> trello card would be good

 13:46 <seb128> oSoMoN beat me to it

 13:46 <seb128> https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gtk-common-themes/-/issues/21

 13:46 <kenvandine> awesome

 13:46 <seb128> kenvandine, is that enough or do you still want the card?

 13:46 <kenvandine> that's good

 13:46 <seb128> k

 13:46 <seb128> that's it for incoming

 13:46 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 13:47 <seb128> bug #1872159 needs triaging (got assigned to duflu for plymouth, needs the same for gdm)

 13:47 <ubot5> bug 1872159 in plymouth (Ubuntu Groovy) "Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872159

 13:48 <seb128> k, that's it for bugs

 13:48 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 13:48 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 13:48 <seb128> desktop section is empty, which is the way it should be the week of release!

 13:49 <seb128> #topic AOB

 13:49 <seb128> it's release week as said

 13:49 <seb128> jibel, Laney , do we have candidate images yet?

 13:49 <jibel> yes

 13:49 <seb128> great

 13:50 <jibel> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/20-10-release-candidate-isos-ready-for-testing/18894

 13:50 <seb128> ^ for everyone to do

 13:50 <hellsworth> woo hoo!

 13:51 <seb128> I don't think the ISO testing hangout we did previous week is going to work as well today

 13:51 <seb128> since the release people I think have their own event and aren't joining

 13:51 <seb128> which meant other didn't stick around

 13:51 <hellsworth> that's ok. whoever comes is welcome

 13:51 <seb128> right

 13:51 <seb128> anything else?

 13:51 <didrocks> nothing for me

 13:52 <Laney> release note contributions would be welcome :-)

 13:52 <seb128> ah, right

 13:52 <seb128> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-gorilla-release-notes right?

 13:52 * seb128 is going to try to add some content

 13:52 <Laney> yeah looks nice

 13:52 <Laney> thanks!

 13:53 <seb128> what's the process?

 13:53 <seb128> I don't seem to have edit rights

 13:54 <Laney> ask pope_y and get IS to enable that bloody plugin!

 13:54 <seb128> k

 13:55 <seb128> anything else?

 13:55 <seb128> seems not, that's a wrap then, thanks desktopers and happy ISO testing!

 13:56 <seb128> #endmeeting



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