13:43 <kenvandine> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-08-04
13:43 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug  4 13:43:59 2020 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:44 <kenvandine> #topic rls-bb-bug
13:45 <kenvandine> i don't think there are other bb bugs
13:45 <hellsworth> there was one more bb-incoming on LO though: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1889460
13:45 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1889460 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Missing font after $LANG change" [Undecided,New]
13:46 <hellsworth> looks like the user noticed missing ubuntu languages when setting $LANG
13:46 <kenvandine> oh, missed that
13:46 <hellsworth> missing fonts, not languages
13:47 <hellsworth> i think it's a small enough problem that i would vote -1 but would love to hear others thoughs
13:48 <kenvandine> i'd be interested in knowing if it only affects libreoffice
13:48 <hellsworth> ok what is another app that uses the ubuntu thin font?
13:48 <kenvandine> like  fc-list
13:49 <kenvandine> does the result change for the different LANG
13:49 <hellsworth> ok i can check that on bionic too
13:49 <kenvandine> probably -1 though
13:50 <kenvandine> although, fonts are important in a word processor :)
13:50 <hellsworth> would it be -1 from you even if it is missing from fc-list?
13:50 <kenvandine> if it's missing in fc-list then it isn't a libreoffice bug
13:51 <hellsworth> well that's true
13:51 <kenvandine> the reporter says it was reproduced on kubuntu 20.04.1 livecd
13:51 <kenvandine> so not just bionic
13:51 <hellsworth> right
13:52 <hellsworth> but i only tagged it as bionic because seemed like enough to get a conversation going about it
13:52 <kenvandine> i can't repro it on 20.04 though
13:52 <kenvandine> -1 and maybe investigate more
13:53 <hellsworth> ok sounds good
13:53 <kenvandine> #topic rls-ff-bug
13:53 <hellsworth> -1 is fine with me but i'll take a look at a bionic vm with fc-list
13:53 <oSoMoN> that sounds reasonable, -1 and further triaging
13:53 <marcustomlinson> should bugs be confirmed/triaged before being tagged incoming
13:53 <seb128> you can also check in gnome-font-viewer if it's listed
13:53 <oSoMoN> that would help making a decision in the meeting
13:53 <kenvandine> it could help
13:53 <kenvandine> but that can be hard if you don't have the release or hardware handy
13:53 <hellsworth> ok sorry guys. then i will triage before tagging in the future.
13:54 <oSoMoN> that's not a strict requirement, just makes things easier
13:54 <hellsworth> thanks seb i'll check gnome-font-viewer too
13:55 <kenvandine> oh, bb-tracking looked fine
13:55 <kenvandine> more LO bugs on ff-incoming
13:55 <kenvandine> bug 1888186
13:55 <ubot5> bug 1888186 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice Writer unusably slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1888186
13:56 <hellsworth> right sorry i was going through new bugs yesterday..
13:56 <hellsworth> so this one seems bad but no one else seems to have the problem
13:57 <kenvandine> yeah, this would have been reported by others
13:57 <oSoMoN> I think that one needs working with the reporter to try and understand what causes this problem, but -1 because it obviously doesn't affect everyone
13:57 <hellsworth> ok
13:57 <seb128> -1 from me
13:57 <hellsworth> -1 then and i'll work with the reporter
13:57 <kenvandine> agreed
13:57 <kenvandine> bug 1889051
13:58 <ubot5> bug 1889051 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Unreachable options" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1889051
13:58 <hellsworth> does that sound like it would be related to the wayland usage?
13:58 <oSoMoN> that looks like an upstream bug
13:58 <oSoMoN> the dialog window is just too tall
13:59 <seb128> not likely wayland, probably just a small vertical resolution
13:59 <seb128> like 720 pixels
13:59 <kenvandine> it would be useful to know the resolution
13:59 <kenvandine> i'd say send that one upstream
13:59 <kenvandine> but maybe ask for their screen resolution first
13:59 <kenvandine> so you have all the info
14:00 <hellsworth> done and thanks
14:00 <kenvandine> hellsworth: can you handle updating the tags on all those bugs?
14:00 <hellsworth> yes
14:00 <kenvandine> thanks
14:01 <kenvandine> ff-tracking looks under control
14:02 <hellsworth> i think that's all of the LO bugs i added yesterday
14:02 <kenvandine> #topic rls-gg-bug
14:03 <kenvandine> we have two bugs under incoming but they look like they've been triaged and assigned
14:03 <seb128> right
14:03 <seb128> jibel, could you check if the kernel on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1875199 fixes the issue for you?
14:04 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1875199 in linux (Ubuntu) "[NUC8CCHK][HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH, playback] No sound at all" [Undecided,Incomplete]
14:04 <kenvandine> should we drop incoming from those?
14:04 <jibel> seb128, it doesn't
14:04 <seb128> jibel, can you comment on the bug saying so?
14:05 <seb128> so Hui might have another look
14:05 <jibel> yes
14:05 <seb128> thx
14:05 <jibel> I tried 5.8 too and still no sound
14:06 <kenvandine> seb128: should we drop incoming from those?  or are we leaving them tagged so we discuss every week?
14:06 <seb128> kenvandine, yes, the gdm one probably should be targetted, the pulseaudio one we dicussed in the past and didn't have an agreement, I'm not going to comment either way today
14:06 <kenvandine> ok
14:06 <seb128> it does sound like a kernel issue to me though
14:06 <seb128> or hardware specific
14:06 <kenvandine> yeah
14:07 <jibel> not sure it's kernel if you kill pulseaudio and uses alsa directly then there is sound, but this meeting is not the right place to discuss these details
14:08 <kenvandine> gg-tracking looks like things being handled
14:08 <kenvandine> #topic aob
14:08 <kenvandine> oh, i skipped something
14:09 <kenvandine> transitions?
14:09 <oSoMoN> that's a long list :/
14:10 <seb128> lot of blocked on icu transition
14:10 <seb128> and some libreoffice retries
14:10 <hellsworth> libreoffice is holding some things up too. asked for some reruns of tests (thanks kenvandine )
14:10 <seb128> I think the only thing that needs looked at is dee/riscv
14:10 <kenvandine> ok, lets move along to AOB
14:12 <kenvandine> anything?
14:12 <kenvandine> going once
14:12 <seb128> (not from me)
14:12 <kenvandine> going twice
14:12 * kenvandine drops the mic
14:12 <kenvandine> #endmeeting