== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-06-09, 09 Jun at 13:30 — 14:09 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-06-09-13.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== rls-bb-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-bb-bug" started at 13:32.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-ff-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-ff-bug" started at 13:45.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-gg-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-gg-bug" started at 13:54.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1860697 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages ===
The discussion about "update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages" started at 14:03.

  * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 
  * ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozjs68/68.9.0-1/+build/19405581 

=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 14:08.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * seb128 (123)
 * hellsworth (14)
 * ubot5 (11)
 * Laney (9)
 * didrocks (9)
 * jibel (7)
 * oSoMoN (3)
 * Wimpress (3)
 * tseliot (3)
 * meetingology (3)
 * Trevinho (2)
 * kenvandine (2)
 * marcustomlinson (1)



== Full Log ==


 13:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-06-09

 13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun  9 13:30:12 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 13:30 <meetingology> 

 13:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 13:30 <kenvandine> o/

 13:30 <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 13:30 <marcustomlinson> \o

 13:30 <Trevinho> o/

 13:31 <oSoMoN> o/

 13:31 <seb128> ok, let's get started

 13:31 <Laney> o\o\o\o\

 13:32 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug

 13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:32 <seb128> bug #1881811

 13:32 <ubot5> bug 1881811 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Groovy) "Values cleared when scrolling in standard filter dialog" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881811

 13:32 <hellsworth> o/

 13:32 <hellsworth> oh right just in time.. it's a super minor corner case but a real bug nonetheless

 13:32 <seb128> which has been nominated without waiting for the tag review

 13:33 <hellsworth> seb128: what do you mean? i added the incomming tags

 13:33 <seb128> the bug has lines for bionic/focal/groovy

 13:34 <seb128> which are unassigned by existing

 13:34 <hellsworth> oh just because it exists in all of them so i added all 3 incoming tags

 13:34 <seb128> the nomination process is usually that we add those lines when we accept the nomination

 13:34 <seb128> no

 13:34 <hellsworth> oh i see

 13:34 <seb128> someone did 'Target to series'

 13:34 <seb128> and added those series

 13:34 <hellsworth> that was me

 13:34 <seb128> k

 13:34 <hellsworth> ok sorry about that

 13:34 <seb128> no worry

 13:34 <seb128> so going back to the topic

 13:35 <hellsworth> k

 13:35 <seb128> it's existing in bionic already, had one report, is cosmetic and seems minor/corner case

 13:35 <seb128> I would vote wontfix

 13:35 <hellsworth> i agree

 13:35 <oSoMoN> hellsworth, the bug hasn't been confirmed upstream, did you intend to work on a fix yourself? if not, I'd say wontfix

 13:36 <hellsworth> i did not intend to work on it myself

 13:36 <seb128> k, so we have agreeemnt on wontfix

 13:36 <seb128> I will do that and delete the targetting, otherwise it will show up in our next section of targetted by not assigned bugs

 13:36 <hellsworth> i think i need some process discussion separately :)

 13:36 <hellsworth> ok thanks seb128

 13:36 <seb128> k, let's do that ehre after we are done with the meeting

 13:36 <seb128> or in query if you prefer

 13:37 <hellsworth> yes

 13:38 <seb128> that's it for incoming

 13:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 13:38 <seb128> bug #1881094

 13:38 <ubot5> bug 1881094 in OEM Priority Project "Support kernel 5.4 Intel sound driver on bionic" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881094

 13:39 <seb128> k, so it's an oem request and they are on it

 13:40 <seb128> so I think nomination makes sense I'm just going to assign to Kai who submitted the patch

 13:40 <Laney> someone need to sponsor it or?

 13:41 <seb128> probably, I've added to my backlog

 13:41 <seb128> pulseaudio is busy atm, there is already another SRU in process so we need to clear that one off before

 13:42 <seb128> but yeah, I will handle the uploading part

 13:42 <Laney> good, it sucks in focal :p

 13:42 <seb128> focal is grrr

 13:42 * Laney had another 'no outputs, no inputs' after starting a session today

 13:42 <seb128> since we regressed build on riscv which is blocking the current SRU

 13:42 <seb128> anyway

 13:42 <seb128> let's not get sidetracked too much :p

 13:42 <seb128> next

 13:42 <seb128> bug #1881137

 13:42 <ubot5> bug 1881137 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440-server (Ubuntu Focal) "Introduce the new NVIDIA 418-server and 440-server series, and update the current NVIDIA drivers" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881137

 13:43 <Wimpress> I thought we assigned that one last week?

 13:43 <seb128> I just understood what it means for the ubuntu-drivers-common to be grey

 13:43 <seb128> you guys said it was deleted

 13:43 <seb128> but it needs to be delete for bionic/focal as well

 13:43 <seb128> I'm doing that now

 13:44 <seb128> k, now u-d-c really vanished

 13:44 <seb128> sorry for the confusing

 13:44 <seb128> bug #1881811

 13:44 <ubot5> bug 1881811 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Values cleared when scrolling in standard filter dialog" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881811

 13:44 <seb128> that's the one we discussed earlier

 13:44 <seb128> bug #1882042

 13:44 <ubot5> bug 1882042 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Linux,Ubuntu,18.4,CI,OLP15,PRTS, Audio/video is out of sync/lag when enter Suspend during playback" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882042

 13:44 <seb128> another oem/pulseaudio

 13:45 <seb128> I assign to Hui and I'm going to do a batched upload with the other fix

 13:45 <seb128> k, that's it for bionic

 13:45 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug

 13:45 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:46 <seb128> noise aside there is bug #1882402

 13:46 <ubot5> bug 1882402 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu-drivers allows installation of (nvidia-340) drivers, which are broken/break things (Kubuntu 20.04)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882402

 13:46 <seb128> (I will try to clean the remaining noise after the meeting)

 13:47 <seb128> tseliot, ^ do you know about this? is that something that needs to be owned/targetted?

 13:48 <seb128> it doesn't seem to have enough information to be decided on to me

 13:48 <seb128> looks like a driver bug maybe?

 13:49 <seb128> I vote wontfix for now, or at least incomplete with info needed

 13:49 <tseliot> seb128, definitely incomplete

 13:49 <Wimpress> It's an interesting GPU hybrid configuration for sure.

 13:50 <tseliot> yes, we haven't enabled that yet

 13:51 <tseliot> I have a MP in a branch, and support for that will land sooner or later, just not with the 340 driver

 13:51 <seb128> k, I've notfixed it and asked for at least an apport-collect

 13:51 <seb128> tseliot, feel free to comment as well if you have more informations

 13:51 <seb128> let's move on

 13:51 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 13:52 <seb128> bug #1881540

 13:52 <ubot5> bug 1881540 in zsys (Ubuntu Focal) "Enable trim support for ugprading users" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881540

 13:52 <didrocks> TBH, all zsys tasks are backport from 0.5

 13:52 <seb128> didrocks, you nominated it do you plan to own the focal part? should it be assigned to you?

 13:53 <Laney> I don't think we need to consider that for rls or not, just assign it

 13:53 <didrocks> seb128: they are all assigned normally, launchpad may have timeouted

 13:53 <seb128> k, fixing

 13:53 <didrocks> thx :)(

 13:53 <Laney> MINUS ONE DONT FIX IT EVER

 13:53 <didrocks> ahah

 13:53 <didrocks> tooooooooooooooo late

 13:53 <didrocks> can regress if you wish :)

 13:54 <seb128> :p

 13:54 <seb128> bug #1882583

 13:54 <ubot5> bug 1882583 in software-properties (Ubuntu Groovy) "[SRU] Enable support for Victoria Cloud Archive" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882583

 13:54 <seb128> Corey is handling those so I'm just assigning to him

 13:54 <seb128> (he pinged me on IRC yesterday)

 13:54 <seb128> that's it for focal

 13:54 <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug

 13:54 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:55 <seb128> bug #1881699

 13:55 <ubot5> bug 1881699 in linux (Ubuntu) "No analog output" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881699

 13:55 <jibel> please fix it ;)

 13:55 <seb128> pulseaudio didn't change since focal

 13:56 <seb128> sounds like rather a kernel bug from Daniel's comment?

 13:56 <seb128> unsure what to do with it to be honest

 13:57 <seb128> I would tend to rls-gg-notfixing since that's one report and pulseaudio didn't change

 13:57 <jibel> to be honest audio is a terrible experience

 13:57 <seb128> other opinions?

 13:57 <Laney> get it tried on another machine?

 13:57 <hellsworth> if it's a kernel issue, could we reassign it to kernel?

 13:57 <seb128> it has a linux target already

 13:57 <Laney> I do agree we have some problems with audio at least from my experiences here

 13:58 <Laney> so would be good to get a bit of investigation done to discover the extent

 13:58 <jibel> with my previous machine is was terrible too

 13:58 <seb128> I agree with the audio situation being suboptimal

 13:58 <jibel> but not having analog output when you plug an audio jack is really bad

 13:58 <seb128> I'm going to card some investigation on the board

 13:58 <seb128> but we are limited in capacity until we get that job opening again :/

 13:59 <seb128> does it work on focal on the same machine? (e.g from a live session)

 13:59 <jibel> I can try

 13:59 <seb128> thx

 13:59 <seb128> I will try on my xps with a daily iso later on

 14:00 <seb128> f and g

 14:00 <seb128> keeping it tagged meanwhile so we can rediscuss next week with more data

 14:00 <jibel> people on various forums have been reporting similar issues on Carbon X1 7gen

 14:01 <jibel> I'm ready to help debugging the issue if anyone has the knowledge to investigate

 14:01 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1860697

 14:01 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1860697 in linux (Ubuntu) "Sound doesn't work on Lenovo X1 Carbon 7th with 20.04" [High,Fix released]

 14:02 <seb128> anyway, we should investigate/talk to oem about the carbon 7th situation if it's still an issue

 14:02 <seb128> but let's do that out of the meeting

 14:02 <seb128> moving on

 14:02 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:02 <seb128> the items there have been discussed

 14:03 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 14:03 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 14:03 <seb128> so

 14:03 <seb128> xorg-server/r-cran-gwidgetstcltk

 14:03 <seb128> the r-cran problems are being investigated by people on +1 maintenance from the reports

 14:03 <seb128> glib/libxmlb http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libx/libxmlb/groovy/amd64

 14:04 <seb128> could be real

 14:04 <seb128> does anyone want to poke at that one?

 14:04 <seb128> libreoffice/s390x is waiting on the fontforge fix that is fix commited in Debian to land

 14:04 <seb128> network-manager-applet (1.8.24-1ubuntu2 to 1.16.0-1ubuntu1) in proposed for 5 days

 14:04 <seb128> Depends on libnma

 14:04 <seb128> that needs MIR team to react to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnma/+bug/1881906

 14:04 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1881906 in libnma (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libnma" [Undecided,New]

 14:05 <seb128> didrocks, do you know if it's fine to just promote since that's a split of existing code to a new source?

 14:05 <seb128> (network-manager-applet's library moved out to its own component)

 14:05 <didrocks> seb128: it just needs some soft packaging check, I can do it for EOW if you don’t mind

 14:05 <seb128> didrocks, would be nice, thanks

 14:06 <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozjs68/68.9.0-1/+build/19405581

 14:06 <seb128> Missing build dependencies: libemail-address-xs-perl

 14:06 <seb128> I need to raise that on #ubuntu-release, I don't understand what's going on

 14:06 <seb128> according to rmadison that binary is missing on i386

 14:06 <seb128> but it built on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libemail-address-xs-perl/1.04-1build2/+build/17929789

 14:07 <seb128> udisks2 failures need investigation, I did that sync I will look at the problem

 14:07 <seb128> gnome-shell probably just needs a retry after Trevinho's fixes landed

 14:08 <seb128> and that's it

 14:08 <seb128> so anyone interested to poke to libxmlb's failure?

 14:08 <seb128> I will card, feel free to grab it, if no-one does it will be assigned

 14:08 <seb128> #topic AOB

 14:08 <seb128> anything else?

 14:09 <Wimpress> Not for me.

 14:09 <didrocks> nothing

 14:09 <oSoMoN> I'll take a look at the libxmlb failures, please assign the card to me

 14:09 <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks

 14:09 <seb128> k, on that note let's wrap

 14:09 <Trevinho> seb128: I may look that build issue in a s390x cloud instance

 14:09 <seb128> thanks team!

 14:09 <kenvandine> :)

 14:09 <didrocks> thx!

 14:09 <seb128> #endmeetin

 14:09 <seb128> #endmeeting



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