13:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-06-09
13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun  9 13:30:12 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:30 <kenvandine> o/
13:30 <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
13:30 <marcustomlinson> \o
13:30 <Trevinho> o/
13:31 <oSoMoN> o/
13:31 <seb128> ok, let's get started
13:31 <Laney> o\o\o\o\
13:32 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug
13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:32 <seb128> bug #1881811
13:32 <ubot5> bug 1881811 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Groovy) "Values cleared when scrolling in standard filter dialog" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881811
13:32 <hellsworth> o/
13:32 <hellsworth> oh right just in time.. it's a super minor corner case but a real bug nonetheless
13:32 <seb128> which has been nominated without waiting for the tag review
13:33 <hellsworth> seb128: what do you mean? i added the incomming tags
13:33 <seb128> the bug has lines for bionic/focal/groovy
13:34 <seb128> which are unassigned by existing
13:34 <hellsworth> oh just because it exists in all of them so i added all 3 incoming tags
13:34 <seb128> the nomination process is usually that we add those lines when we accept the nomination
13:34 <seb128> no
13:34 <hellsworth> oh i see
13:34 <seb128> someone did 'Target to series'
13:34 <seb128> and added those series
13:34 <hellsworth> that was me
13:34 <seb128> k
13:34 <hellsworth> ok sorry about that
13:34 <seb128> no worry
13:34 <seb128> so going back to the topic
13:35 <hellsworth> k
13:35 <seb128> it's existing in bionic already, had one report, is cosmetic and seems minor/corner case
13:35 <seb128> I would vote wontfix
13:35 <hellsworth> i agree
13:35 <oSoMoN> hellsworth, the bug hasn't been confirmed upstream, did you intend to work on a fix yourself? if not, I'd say wontfix
13:36 <hellsworth> i did not intend to work on it myself
13:36 <seb128> k, so we have agreeemnt on wontfix
13:36 <seb128> I will do that and delete the targetting, otherwise it will show up in our next section of targetted by not assigned bugs
13:36 <hellsworth> i think i need some process discussion separately :)
13:36 <hellsworth> ok thanks seb128
13:36 <seb128> k, let's do that ehre after we are done with the meeting
13:36 <seb128> or in query if you prefer
13:37 <hellsworth> yes
13:38 <seb128> that's it for incoming
13:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:38 <seb128> bug #1881094
13:38 <ubot5> bug 1881094 in OEM Priority Project "Support kernel 5.4 Intel sound driver on bionic" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881094
13:39 <seb128> k, so it's an oem request and they are on it
13:40 <seb128> so I think nomination makes sense I'm just going to assign to Kai who submitted the patch
13:40 <Laney> someone need to sponsor it or?
13:41 <seb128> probably, I've added to my backlog
13:41 <seb128> pulseaudio is busy atm, there is already another SRU in process so we need to clear that one off before
13:42 <seb128> but yeah, I will handle the uploading part
13:42 <Laney> good, it sucks in focal :p
13:42 <seb128> focal is grrr
13:42 * Laney had another 'no outputs, no inputs' after starting a session today
13:42 <seb128> since we regressed build on riscv which is blocking the current SRU
13:42 <seb128> anyway
13:42 <seb128> let's not get sidetracked too much :p
13:42 <seb128> next
13:42 <seb128> bug #1881137
13:42 <ubot5> bug 1881137 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440-server (Ubuntu Focal) "Introduce the new NVIDIA 418-server and 440-server series, and update the current NVIDIA drivers" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881137
13:43 <Wimpress> I thought we assigned that one last week?
13:43 <seb128> I just understood what it means for the ubuntu-drivers-common to be grey
13:43 <seb128> you guys said it was deleted
13:43 <seb128> but it needs to be delete for bionic/focal as well
13:43 <seb128> I'm doing that now
13:44 <seb128> k, now u-d-c really vanished
13:44 <seb128> sorry for the confusing
13:44 <seb128> bug #1881811
13:44 <ubot5> bug 1881811 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Values cleared when scrolling in standard filter dialog" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881811
13:44 <seb128> that's the one we discussed earlier
13:44 <seb128> bug #1882042
13:44 <ubot5> bug 1882042 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Linux,Ubuntu,18.4,CI,OLP15,PRTS, Audio/video is out of sync/lag when enter Suspend during playback" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882042
13:44 <seb128> another oem/pulseaudio
13:45 <seb128> I assign to Hui and I'm going to do a batched upload with the other fix
13:45 <seb128> k, that's it for bionic
13:45 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug
13:45 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:46 <seb128> noise aside there is bug #1882402
13:46 <ubot5> bug 1882402 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu-drivers allows installation of (nvidia-340) drivers, which are broken/break things (Kubuntu 20.04)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882402
13:46 <seb128> (I will try to clean the remaining noise after the meeting)
13:47 <seb128> tseliot, ^ do you know about this? is that something that needs to be owned/targetted?
13:48 <seb128> it doesn't seem to have enough information to be decided on to me
13:48 <seb128> looks like a driver bug maybe?
13:49 <seb128> I vote wontfix for now, or at least incomplete with info needed
13:49 <tseliot> seb128, definitely incomplete
13:49 <Wimpress> It's an interesting GPU hybrid configuration for sure.
13:50 <tseliot> yes, we haven't enabled that yet
13:51 <tseliot> I have a MP in a branch, and support for that will land sooner or later, just not with the 340 driver
13:51 <seb128> k, I've notfixed it and asked for at least an apport-collect
13:51 <seb128> tseliot, feel free to comment as well if you have more informations
13:51 <seb128> let's move on
13:51 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:52 <seb128> bug #1881540
13:52 <ubot5> bug 1881540 in zsys (Ubuntu Focal) "Enable trim support for ugprading users" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881540
13:52 <didrocks> TBH, all zsys tasks are backport from 0.5
13:52 <seb128> didrocks, you nominated it do you plan to own the focal part? should it be assigned to you?
13:53 <Laney> I don't think we need to consider that for rls or not, just assign it
13:53 <didrocks> seb128: they are all assigned normally, launchpad may have timeouted
13:53 <seb128> k, fixing
13:53 <didrocks> thx :)(
13:53 <Laney> MINUS ONE DONT FIX IT EVER
13:53 <didrocks> ahah
13:53 <didrocks> tooooooooooooooo late
13:53 <didrocks> can regress if you wish :)
13:54 <seb128> :p
13:54 <seb128> bug #1882583
13:54 <ubot5> bug 1882583 in software-properties (Ubuntu Groovy) "[SRU] Enable support for Victoria Cloud Archive" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882583
13:54 <seb128> Corey is handling those so I'm just assigning to him
13:54 <seb128> (he pinged me on IRC yesterday)
13:54 <seb128> that's it for focal
13:54 <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug
13:54 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:55 <seb128> bug #1881699
13:55 <ubot5> bug 1881699 in linux (Ubuntu) "No analog output" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881699
13:55 <jibel> please fix it ;)
13:55 <seb128> pulseaudio didn't change since focal
13:56 <seb128> sounds like rather a kernel bug from Daniel's comment?
13:56 <seb128> unsure what to do with it to be honest
13:57 <seb128> I would tend to rls-gg-notfixing since that's one report and pulseaudio didn't change
13:57 <jibel> to be honest audio is a terrible experience
13:57 <seb128> other opinions?
13:57 <Laney> get it tried on another machine?
13:57 <hellsworth> if it's a kernel issue, could we reassign it to kernel?
13:57 <seb128> it has a linux target already
13:57 <Laney> I do agree we have some problems with audio at least from my experiences here
13:58 <Laney> so would be good to get a bit of investigation done to discover the extent
13:58 <jibel> with my previous machine is was terrible too
13:58 <seb128> I agree with the audio situation being suboptimal
13:58 <jibel> but not having analog output when you plug an audio jack is really bad
13:58 <seb128> I'm going to card some investigation on the board
13:58 <seb128> but we are limited in capacity until we get that job opening again :/
13:59 <seb128> does it work on focal on the same machine? (e.g from a live session)
13:59 <jibel> I can try
13:59 <seb128> thx
13:59 <seb128> I will try on my xps with a daily iso later on
14:00 <seb128> f and g
14:00 <seb128> keeping it tagged meanwhile so we can rediscuss next week with more data
14:00 <jibel> people on various forums have been reporting similar issues on Carbon X1 7gen
14:01 <jibel> I'm ready to help debugging the issue if anyone has the knowledge to investigate
14:01 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1860697
14:01 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1860697 in linux (Ubuntu) "Sound doesn't work on Lenovo X1 Carbon 7th with 20.04" [High,Fix released]
14:02 <seb128> anyway, we should investigate/talk to oem about the carbon 7th situation if it's still an issue
14:02 <seb128> but let's do that out of the meeting
14:02 <seb128> moving on
14:02 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:02 <seb128> the items there have been discussed
14:03 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:03 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:03 <seb128> so
14:03 <seb128> xorg-server/r-cran-gwidgetstcltk
14:03 <seb128> the r-cran problems are being investigated by people on +1 maintenance from the reports
14:03 <seb128> glib/libxmlb http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libx/libxmlb/groovy/amd64
14:04 <seb128> could be real
14:04 <seb128> does anyone want to poke at that one?
14:04 <seb128> libreoffice/s390x is waiting on the fontforge fix that is fix commited in Debian to land
14:04 <seb128> network-manager-applet (1.8.24-1ubuntu2 to 1.16.0-1ubuntu1) in proposed for 5 days
14:04 <seb128> Depends on libnma
14:04 <seb128> that needs MIR team to react to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnma/+bug/1881906
14:04 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1881906 in libnma (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libnma" [Undecided,New]
14:05 <seb128> didrocks, do you know if it's fine to just promote since that's a split of existing code to a new source?
14:05 <seb128> (network-manager-applet's library moved out to its own component)
14:05 <didrocks> seb128: it just needs some soft packaging check, I can do it for EOW if you don’t mind
14:05 <seb128> didrocks, would be nice, thanks
14:06 <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozjs68/68.9.0-1/+build/19405581
14:06 <seb128> Missing build dependencies: libemail-address-xs-perl
14:06 <seb128> I need to raise that on #ubuntu-release, I don't understand what's going on
14:06 <seb128> according to rmadison that binary is missing on i386
14:06 <seb128> but it built on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libemail-address-xs-perl/1.04-1build2/+build/17929789
14:07 <seb128> udisks2 failures need investigation, I did that sync I will look at the problem
14:07 <seb128> gnome-shell probably just needs a retry after Trevinho's fixes landed
14:08 <seb128> and that's it
14:08 <seb128> so anyone interested to poke to libxmlb's failure?
14:08 <seb128> I will card, feel free to grab it, if no-one does it will be assigned
14:08 <seb128> #topic AOB
14:08 <seb128> anything else?
14:09 <Wimpress> Not for me.
14:09 <didrocks> nothing
14:09 <oSoMoN> I'll take a look at the libxmlb failures, please assign the card to me
14:09 <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks
14:09 <seb128> k, on that note let's wrap
14:09 <Trevinho> seb128: I may look that build issue in a s390x cloud instance
14:09 <seb128> thanks team!
14:09 <kenvandine> :)
14:09 <didrocks> thx!
14:09 <seb128> #endmeetin
14:09 <seb128> #endmeeting