== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-06-02, 02 Jun at 13:32 — 14:16 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-06-02-13.32.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== rls-ff-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-ff-bugs" started at 13:34.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/1881364 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1869747 
  * ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/1872527 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/1864307 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/mutter/+bug/1877075 
  * ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/1876065 
  * ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/1874091 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-440/+bug/1881137 
  * ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/1879475 
  * ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/1875665 

=== rls-bb-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-bb-bugs" started at 13:55.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/1880832 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1881094 

=== rls-gg-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-gg-bugs" started at 13:59.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/1881699 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages ===
The discussion about "update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages" started at 14:04.

  * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 

=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 14:09.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * Wimpress (81)
 * seb128 (51)
 * Trevinho (14)
 * ubot5 (13)
 * hellsworth (6)
 * oSoMoN (4)
 * Laney (4)
 * kenvandine (3)
 * meetingology (3)
 * didrocks (2)
 * marcustomlinson (1)



== Full Log ==


 13:32 <Wimpress> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-06-02

 13:32 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun  2 13:32:43 2020 UTC.  The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 13:32 <meetingology> 

 13:32 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 13:32 <Wimpress> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk

 13:33 <hellsworth> o/

 13:33 <kenvandine> o/

 13:33 <Trevinho> o/

 13:33 <oSoMoN> o/

 13:33 <marcustomlinson> o/

 13:33 <seb128> o/

 13:34 <Wimpress> Hi all o/

 13:34 <Wimpress> We'll cover LTS' first.

 13:34 <Wimpress> #topic rls-ff-bugs

 13:34 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:35 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1881364

 13:35 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1881364 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "broken kerning" [Undecided,New]

 13:35 <seb128> it's a KDE issue with manually installed packages, I don't think our team should consider that as a rls target

 13:35 <seb128> I vote -1

 13:36 <Wimpress> Yeah, Lubuntu.

 13:36 <hellsworth> i agree too. it's only Lubuntu

 13:36 <hellsworth> should i not but Lubuntu/Kubuntu/etc in incoming tags?

 13:36 <hellsworth> i wasn't sure so i did it anyways

 13:36 <Wimpress> I've dropped RLS

 13:37 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1869747

 13:37 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1869747 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Recent changes have caused Xorg to fail to start. Possibly nvidia driver related." [Undecided,Incomplete]

 13:37 <seb128> depending if you consider there is a reason our team should be concerned by the issue

 13:37 <seb128> we can always discuss it

 13:37 <hellsworth> hmm ok seb128 thanks

 13:38 <seb128> Wimpress, that one is incomplete, I would just wontfix for now unless it proove to be a real issue and got the informations requested

 13:38 <Wimpress> Yep.

 13:39 <Wimpress> Done.

 13:39 <Wimpress> And updated.

 13:39 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1872527

 13:39 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1872527 in spice-vdagent (Ubuntu Focal) "Clipboard doesn't work 100% of the time in Ubuntu 20.04 (in KVM guests)" [Undecided,Incomplete]

 13:40 <seb128> incomplete as well and I think the server team is on it

 13:40 <Wimpress> We see this because we seed the spice agent in the desktop image, right?

 13:40 <didrocks> yes

 13:40 <Laney> phew

 13:41 <Wimpress> Yep, I'll just leave that one for now.

 13:41 <Trevinho> so it seems, I wouldn't shocked if mutter has something to do either too

 13:41 <Trevinho> but let's wait

 13:42 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 13:42 <seb128> that was reported before .2 landed which fixes some clipboard issues I think?

 13:42 <seb128> would be worth testing with the current versions

 13:42 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1864307

 13:42 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1864307 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Focal) "Many apps have no icon in Software on Focal" [High,Triaged]

 13:43 <seb128> one for kenvandine

 13:43 <Wimpress> kenvandine: You seem to be on that.

 13:44 <kenvandine> yup

 13:44 <Wimpress> I've assigned you to the gnome-software entries.

 13:44 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mutter/+bug/1877075

 13:44 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1877075 in mutter (Ubuntu Groovy) "gnome-shell crashed at xcb_io.c:260: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost'' failed" [High,In progress]

 13:44 <Wimpress> Daniel seem to be on that.

 13:44 <seb128> right

 13:45 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1876065

 13:45 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1876065 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Groovy) "After unplug headphones and plug them again no sound can be heard" [High,Fix committed]

 13:46 <Wimpress> Fix is in proposed.

 13:46 <seb128> right

 13:46 <Wimpress> Should we assign this to Kai

 13:46 <Wimpress> For focal.

 13:46 <seb128> sure

 13:46 <seb128> I usually don't bother reviewing the "fix commited' ones

 13:46 <seb128> in the meeting I mean

 13:47 <seb128> s/I/we

 13:47 <Wimpress> OK

 13:47 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1874091

 13:47 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1874091 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "ubuntu-release-upgrader should use ubuntu-drivers and migrate people from nvidia-dkms to l-r-m" [High,Triaged]

 13:48 <seb128> the focal line should probably be assigned to Alberto and that's it from our side

 13:48 <Wimpress> Should that be owned by FOundations?

 13:48 <Wimpress> Done.

 13:48 <seb128> we own ubuntu-drivers-common

 13:49 <seb128> so that's for us to triage

 13:49 <seb128> the u-r-u part is for foundations

 13:49 <Wimpress> Yep

 13:49 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-440/+bug/1881137

 13:49 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1881137 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440-server (Ubuntu Focal) "Introduce the new NVIDIA 418-server and 440-server series, and update the current NVIDIA drivers" [High,In progress]

 13:50 <Wimpress> Looks like we need to assign someone for common-drivers in the above?

 13:50 <seb128> tseliot I guess?

 13:50 <seb128> alo why is that component line washed out?

 13:51 <Wimpress> Because "undedcided"?

 13:51 <oSoMoN> Alberto marked the bug as not affecting ubuntu-drivers-common today

 13:51 <Laney> I think that means it got deleted

 13:51 <Wimpress> Yep, just saw that.

 13:52 <oSoMoN> s/today/yesterday/

 13:52 <oSoMoN> (I seem to be living in the past)

 13:52 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1879475

 13:52 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1879475 in evince (Ubuntu Focal) "SRU the current 3.36.1 stable update" [Undecided,Incomplete]

 13:52 <seb128> I'm dealing with that one

 13:52 <Wimpress> OK

 13:52 <Wimpress> Just saw.

 13:53 <seb128> it's a SRU that was in the queue and got reviewed while I was off

 13:53 <seb128> I need to sort it out, it's on my todo for today

 13:53 <Wimpress> OK.

 13:53 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1875665

 13:53 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1875665 in rtkit (Ubuntu) "rtkit-daemon[*]: Failed to make ourselves RT: Operation not permitted after upgrade to 20.04" [High,Confirmed]

 13:53 <seb128> that's being fixed in the kernel side

 13:53 <Wimpress> Looks like Seth is on that.

 13:53 <seb128> the rtkit line can probably be deleted

 13:54 <seb128> or marked invalid

 13:55 <Wimpress> Everything else that is Unassigned appears to be Fix commited for focal.

 13:55 <seb128> great :)

 13:55 <Wimpress> #topic rls-bb-bugs

 13:55 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:55 <Wimpress> All clear.

 13:56 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 13:56 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1880832

 13:56 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1880832 in wslu (Ubuntu Eoan) "[SRU] backport wslu 2.3.6-0ubuntu1 to all current supported releases" [Undecided,New]

 13:56 <Wimpress> That looks like one for Patrick.

 13:56 <seb128> +1

 13:57 <Wimpress> Done

 13:57 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1881094

 13:57 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1881094 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Bionic) "Support kernel 5.4 Intel sound driver on bionic" [Undecided,New]

 13:58 <Wimpress> paulseaudio is now marked invalid.

 13:59 <Wimpress> I think that concludes Bionic.

 13:59 <Wimpress> #topic rls-gg-bugs

 13:59 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:59 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1881699

 13:59 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1881699 in linux (Ubuntu) "No analog output" [High,Confirmed]

 14:01 <Wimpress> Look fresh an jibel is triaging.

 14:01 <seb128> only one report, pulseaudio didn't change since focal

 14:01 <seb128> I would notfixing it at this point

 14:01 <Wimpress> Look like it is more kernel related.

 14:02 <kenvandine> probably

 14:02 <Wimpress> sound open firmware

 14:02 <Wimpress> I'll leave it for now.

 14:02 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:03 <Wimpress> Only 1 and it is fix committed.

 14:03 <Wimpress> seb128: Do you want to review EE?

 14:04 <seb128> no

 14:04 <seb128> we stopped doing that a while ago

 14:04 <Wimpress> Good.

 14:04 <Wimpress> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 14:04 <Wimpress> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 14:05 <Wimpress> glib2 lolz

 14:05 <seb128> well, it's mostly waiting for results

 14:05 <seb128> I can handle that section

 14:05 <Wimpress> Yep.

 14:05 <Laney> big ol queue at the minute

 14:05 <Laney> one of the cloud regions is fubared

 14:05 <Wimpress> Ah.

 14:06 <seb128> pulseaudio started failing a test on risc64, including on focal which blocks the oem SRU, great :/

 14:06 <Wimpress> Is there anything meaningful in that list right now?

 14:06 <seb128> ideally it would need debugging

 14:06 <seb128> n-m/netplan/arm64 seems real and need debugging

 14:07 <seb128> Trevinho, could you look at the mutter build issue?

 14:07 <Trevinho> seb128: ok

 14:07 <seb128> thx

 14:07 <seb128> we will also probably need to investigate some of the xorg and glib reported regression

 14:08 <seb128> I will card things, please grab in the trello if you can

 14:08 <seb128> Wimpress, that should be it I think for today

 14:08 <Wimpress> Yep.

 14:08 <Trevinho> weird that mutter built properly in my schroot, while failed in various archs including amd65

 14:09 <Trevinho> 4*

 14:09 <Wimpress> #topic AOB

 14:09 <Wimpress> ANyone have anything else they want to discuss?

 14:09 <didrocks> nothing for me

 14:09 <Trevinho> As per gnome-shell .2. Yeah, unfortunately .2 is blocked, while .3 should have been out already (reason why I waite but actually florian is busy still. Not sure if to get the debian git snapshot to focal as well. Or wait some more days...

 14:10 <Wimpress> Trevinho: Is there a good reason to grab a snapshot now?

 14:10 <Trevinho> eh, there are already lots of nice fixes in .2 that we're still missing as it also included also (from my POV) minor regressions

 14:10 <Wimpress> Right.

 14:10 <seb128> Trevinho, wait for .3 if you think it's going to be out in the next week or so, otherwise snapshot I would say

 14:11 <Trevinho> so, we're getting a bit late, and not sure what upstream times are... as at my question there was no date answered

 14:11 <Wimpress> What would you like to do Trevinho?

 14:12 <Trevinho> I'd define a final date, if we've not a .3, we go with the snapshot

 14:12 <Trevinho> so like... maybe thu?

 14:13 <seb128> +1

 14:13 <Wimpress> If you have confidence in a snapshot release, I'm fine with it.

 14:13 <Trevinho> debian unstable has it for few days already FWIW, so.. some testers already

 14:13 <seb128> or cherry pick the regresion fix for the issue blocking .2?

 14:14 <Trevinho> seb128: I had that done, then I saw debian having a snapshot, while the .3 in theory would be coming Sat, so I said myself to wait

 14:14 <Trevinho> but...

 14:14 <seb128> nag floriqn and let(

 14:15 <seb128> nag florian and let's discuss again on,thursday

 14:15 <Wimpress> +1

 14:15 <Wimpress> Anyone else have anything to discuss?

 14:16 <seb128> no

 14:16 <Wimpress> Looks like a no :-)

 14:16 <Wimpress> OK, thanks everyone.

 14:16 <seb128> thanks!

 14:16 <hellsworth> thanks

 14:16 <Wimpress> #endmeeting



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