13:32 <Wimpress> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-06-02
13:32 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun  2 13:32:43 2020 UTC.  The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:32 <Wimpress> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk
13:33 <hellsworth> o/
13:33 <kenvandine> o/
13:33 <Trevinho> o/
13:33 <oSoMoN> o/
13:33 <marcustomlinson> o/
13:33 <seb128> o/
13:34 <Wimpress> Hi all o/
13:34 <Wimpress> We'll cover LTS' first.
13:34 <Wimpress> #topic rls-ff-bugs
13:34 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:35 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1881364
13:35 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1881364 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "broken kerning" [Undecided,New]
13:35 <seb128> it's a KDE issue with manually installed packages, I don't think our team should consider that as a rls target
13:35 <seb128> I vote -1
13:36 <Wimpress> Yeah, Lubuntu.
13:36 <hellsworth> i agree too. it's only Lubuntu
13:36 <hellsworth> should i not but Lubuntu/Kubuntu/etc in incoming tags?
13:36 <hellsworth> i wasn't sure so i did it anyways
13:36 <Wimpress> I've dropped RLS
13:37 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1869747
13:37 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1869747 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Recent changes have caused Xorg to fail to start. Possibly nvidia driver related." [Undecided,Incomplete]
13:37 <seb128> depending if you consider there is a reason our team should be concerned by the issue
13:37 <seb128> we can always discuss it
13:37 <hellsworth> hmm ok seb128 thanks
13:38 <seb128> Wimpress, that one is incomplete, I would just wontfix for now unless it proove to be a real issue and got the informations requested
13:38 <Wimpress> Yep.
13:39 <Wimpress> Done.
13:39 <Wimpress> And updated.
13:39 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1872527
13:39 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1872527 in spice-vdagent (Ubuntu Focal) "Clipboard doesn't work 100% of the time in Ubuntu 20.04 (in KVM guests)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
13:40 <seb128> incomplete as well and I think the server team is on it
13:40 <Wimpress> We see this because we seed the spice agent in the desktop image, right?
13:40 <didrocks> yes
13:40 <Laney> phew
13:41 <Wimpress> Yep, I'll just leave that one for now.
13:41 <Trevinho> so it seems, I wouldn't shocked if mutter has something to do either too
13:41 <Trevinho> but let's wait
13:42 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:42 <seb128> that was reported before .2 landed which fixes some clipboard issues I think?
13:42 <seb128> would be worth testing with the current versions
13:42 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1864307
13:42 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1864307 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Focal) "Many apps have no icon in Software on Focal" [High,Triaged]
13:43 <seb128> one for kenvandine
13:43 <Wimpress> kenvandine: You seem to be on that.
13:44 <kenvandine> yup
13:44 <Wimpress> I've assigned you to the gnome-software entries.
13:44 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mutter/+bug/1877075
13:44 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1877075 in mutter (Ubuntu Groovy) "gnome-shell crashed at xcb_io.c:260: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost'' failed" [High,In progress]
13:44 <Wimpress> Daniel seem to be on that.
13:44 <seb128> right
13:45 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1876065
13:45 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1876065 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Groovy) "After unplug headphones and plug them again no sound can be heard" [High,Fix committed]
13:46 <Wimpress> Fix is in proposed.
13:46 <seb128> right
13:46 <Wimpress> Should we assign this to Kai
13:46 <Wimpress> For focal.
13:46 <seb128> sure
13:46 <seb128> I usually don't bother reviewing the "fix commited' ones
13:46 <seb128> in the meeting I mean
13:47 <seb128> s/I/we
13:47 <Wimpress> OK
13:47 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1874091
13:47 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1874091 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "ubuntu-release-upgrader should use ubuntu-drivers and migrate people from nvidia-dkms to l-r-m" [High,Triaged]
13:48 <seb128> the focal line should probably be assigned to Alberto and that's it from our side
13:48 <Wimpress> Should that be owned by FOundations?
13:48 <Wimpress> Done.
13:48 <seb128> we own ubuntu-drivers-common
13:49 <seb128> so that's for us to triage
13:49 <seb128> the u-r-u part is for foundations
13:49 <Wimpress> Yep
13:49 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-440/+bug/1881137
13:49 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1881137 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440-server (Ubuntu Focal) "Introduce the new NVIDIA 418-server and 440-server series, and update the current NVIDIA drivers" [High,In progress]
13:50 <Wimpress> Looks like we need to assign someone for common-drivers in the above?
13:50 <seb128> tseliot I guess?
13:50 <seb128> alo why is that component line washed out?
13:51 <Wimpress> Because "undedcided"?
13:51 <oSoMoN> Alberto marked the bug as not affecting ubuntu-drivers-common today
13:51 <Laney> I think that means it got deleted
13:51 <Wimpress> Yep, just saw that.
13:52 <oSoMoN> s/today/yesterday/
13:52 <oSoMoN> (I seem to be living in the past)
13:52 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1879475
13:52 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1879475 in evince (Ubuntu Focal) "SRU the current 3.36.1 stable update" [Undecided,Incomplete]
13:52 <seb128> I'm dealing with that one
13:52 <Wimpress> OK
13:52 <Wimpress> Just saw.
13:53 <seb128> it's a SRU that was in the queue and got reviewed while I was off
13:53 <seb128> I need to sort it out, it's on my todo for today
13:53 <Wimpress> OK.
13:53 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1875665
13:53 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1875665 in rtkit (Ubuntu) "rtkit-daemon[*]: Failed to make ourselves RT: Operation not permitted after upgrade to 20.04" [High,Confirmed]
13:53 <seb128> that's being fixed in the kernel side
13:53 <Wimpress> Looks like Seth is on that.
13:53 <seb128> the rtkit line can probably be deleted
13:54 <seb128> or marked invalid
13:55 <Wimpress> Everything else that is Unassigned appears to be Fix commited for focal.
13:55 <seb128> great :)
13:55 <Wimpress> #topic rls-bb-bugs
13:55 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:55 <Wimpress> All clear.
13:56 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:56 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1880832
13:56 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1880832 in wslu (Ubuntu Eoan) "[SRU] backport wslu 2.3.6-0ubuntu1 to all current supported releases" [Undecided,New]
13:56 <Wimpress> That looks like one for Patrick.
13:56 <seb128> +1
13:57 <Wimpress> Done
13:57 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1881094
13:57 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1881094 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Bionic) "Support kernel 5.4 Intel sound driver on bionic" [Undecided,New]
13:58 <Wimpress> paulseaudio is now marked invalid.
13:59 <Wimpress> I think that concludes Bionic.
13:59 <Wimpress> #topic rls-gg-bugs
13:59 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:59 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1881699
13:59 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1881699 in linux (Ubuntu) "No analog output" [High,Confirmed]
14:01 <Wimpress> Look fresh an jibel is triaging.
14:01 <seb128> only one report, pulseaudio didn't change since focal
14:01 <seb128> I would notfixing it at this point
14:01 <Wimpress> Look like it is more kernel related.
14:02 <kenvandine> probably
14:02 <Wimpress> sound open firmware
14:02 <Wimpress> I'll leave it for now.
14:02 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:03 <Wimpress> Only 1 and it is fix committed.
14:03 <Wimpress> seb128: Do you want to review EE?
14:04 <seb128> no
14:04 <seb128> we stopped doing that a while ago
14:04 <Wimpress> Good.
14:04 <Wimpress> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:04 <Wimpress> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:05 <Wimpress> glib2 lolz
14:05 <seb128> well, it's mostly waiting for results
14:05 <seb128> I can handle that section
14:05 <Wimpress> Yep.
14:05 <Laney> big ol queue at the minute
14:05 <Laney> one of the cloud regions is fubared
14:05 <Wimpress> Ah.
14:06 <seb128> pulseaudio started failing a test on risc64, including on focal which blocks the oem SRU, great :/
14:06 <Wimpress> Is there anything meaningful in that list right now?
14:06 <seb128> ideally it would need debugging
14:06 <seb128> n-m/netplan/arm64 seems real and need debugging
14:07 <seb128> Trevinho, could you look at the mutter build issue?
14:07 <Trevinho> seb128: ok
14:07 <seb128> thx
14:07 <seb128> we will also probably need to investigate some of the xorg and glib reported regression
14:08 <seb128> I will card things, please grab in the trello if you can
14:08 <seb128> Wimpress, that should be it I think for today
14:08 <Wimpress> Yep.
14:08 <Trevinho> weird that mutter built properly in my schroot, while failed in various archs including amd65
14:09 <Trevinho> 4*
14:09 <Wimpress> #topic AOB
14:09 <Wimpress> ANyone have anything else they want to discuss?
14:09 <didrocks> nothing for me
14:09 <Trevinho> As per gnome-shell .2. Yeah, unfortunately .2 is blocked, while .3 should have been out already (reason why I waite but actually florian is busy still. Not sure if to get the debian git snapshot to focal as well. Or wait some more days...
14:10 <Wimpress> Trevinho: Is there a good reason to grab a snapshot now?
14:10 <Trevinho> eh, there are already lots of nice fixes in .2 that we're still missing as it also included also (from my POV) minor regressions
14:10 <Wimpress> Right.
14:10 <seb128> Trevinho, wait for .3 if you think it's going to be out in the next week or so, otherwise snapshot I would say
14:11 <Trevinho> so, we're getting a bit late, and not sure what upstream times are... as at my question there was no date answered
14:11 <Wimpress> What would you like to do Trevinho?
14:12 <Trevinho> I'd define a final date, if we've not a .3, we go with the snapshot
14:12 <Trevinho> so like... maybe thu?
14:13 <seb128> +1
14:13 <Wimpress> If you have confidence in a snapshot release, I'm fine with it.
14:13 <Trevinho> debian unstable has it for few days already FWIW, so.. some testers already
14:13 <seb128> or cherry pick the regresion fix for the issue blocking .2?
14:14 <Trevinho> seb128: I had that done, then I saw debian having a snapshot, while the .3 in theory would be coming Sat, so I said myself to wait
14:14 <Trevinho> but...
14:14 <seb128> nag floriqn and let(
14:15 <seb128> nag florian and let's discuss again on,thursday
14:15 <Wimpress> +1
14:15 <Wimpress> Anyone else have anything to discuss?
14:16 <seb128> no
14:16 <Wimpress> Looks like a no :-)
14:16 <Wimpress> OK, thanks everyone.
14:16 <seb128> thanks!
14:16 <hellsworth> thanks
14:16 <Wimpress> #endmeeting