14:31 <Wimpress> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-02-18
14:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb 18 14:31:42 2020 UTC.  The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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14:31 <Wimpress> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell
14:31 * seb128 gives kenvandine and hellsworth the look of 'you didn't post your weekly summary on discourse on friday' :)
14:31 <seb128> _o/
14:32 <kenvandine> indeed :)
14:32 <marcustomlinson> \o
14:32 <didrocks> as long as the road is safe… :)
14:32 <kenvandine> i'll get it posted once i get a browser that accepts keyboard input :)
14:32 <hellsworth> yes yes will do it soon :)
14:32 <seb128> kenvandine, sudo apt install firefox
14:32 <seb128> :p
14:33 <Wimpress> #topic rls-bb-bugs
14:33 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:34 <Wimpress> Not seeing anything obvious for us there.
14:34 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:35 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1863724
14:35 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1863724 in mesa (Ubuntu Eoan) "Add missing pci-id's for Comet Lake (CML)" [Undecided,New]
14:36 <Wimpress> Looks like tjaalton has that in hadn ^
14:36 <seb128> looks like tjaalton nomited it and should probably take assignement?
14:37 <seb128> tjaalton, please when you nominate things assign them to yourself, it's a recurrent source of items we end discussing in meeting
14:37 <Wimpress> Not seeing anything else in bb-tracking that stands out.
14:38 <Wimpress> I am reminded we need to figure our what to do with some of the nm bugs.
14:38 <marcustomlinson> do we not have an owner for nm?
14:38 <seb128> no :(
14:38 <seb128> I suggested we just unmilestone them
14:38 <seb128> they will go through the process again if they are important enough
14:39 <Wimpress> Lets actually make a final decision on dropping them from milestone after this.
14:39 <seb128> but at this point they have been waiting for more than a year so they can probably wait until the incoming LTS...
14:39 <seb128> k
14:39 <Wimpress> Moving on to Eoan.
14:39 <Wimpress> #topic rls-ee-bugs
14:39 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:40 <Wimpress> Nothing to review it seems.
14:41 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:41 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1853768
14:41 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1853768 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu Eoan) "Qt apps, like kid3-qt, which uses legacy icons "document-*.png", show them as normal document icon under Yaru theme" [Undecided,New]
14:42 <seb128> that's assigned?
14:42 <Wimpress> So it is.
14:42 <seb128> :)
14:42 <Wimpress> I can't read in straight lines it would appear.
14:42 <Wimpress> Moving on.
14:42 <Wimpress> #topic rls-ff-bugs
14:42 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:42 <didrocks> \me hands some glasses to Wimpress then
14:43 <marcustomlinson> what kind? whisky?
14:43 <didrocks> ahah
14:43 <Wimpress> So, several to review here.
14:43 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1862169
14:43 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1862169 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in build_flavored_key()" [Medium,Confirmed]
14:43 <marcustomlinson> champagne bugs?
14:44 <Wimpress> Yep
14:45 <seb128> that one is fixed since today with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grilo-plugins/0.3.11-1ubuntu1
14:45 <seb128> it's https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/grilo-plugins/commit/46d7c0ed
14:46 <seb128> I'm closing it
14:46 <Wimpress> Thanks.
14:46 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1776447
14:46 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1776447 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg's Indirect GLX broken from upstream regression" [Medium,Triaged]
14:46 <Wimpress> Looks like this should be assigned to Timo based on the comments.
14:47 <seb128> +1
14:47 <seb128> unsure if that's important enough to be rls tracked though
14:47 <seb128> it's a report from mid 2018 with no duplicate
14:48 <seb128> it's in the sponsoring queue which should be enough
14:48 <Wimpress> OK
14:48 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1861769
14:48 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1861769 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm3 crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast() from gdm_manager_handle_register_session() from ffi_call_unix64() from ffi_call() from g_cclosure_marshal_generic()" [Medium,Triaged]
14:48 <Trevinho> seems a +1
14:48 <seb128> wait, what do we do with the previous one
14:49 <seb128> what's the workflow to get champagne bugs out of the list?
14:49 <Laney> -champagne +notfixing
14:49 <seb128> untag + rls-ff-notfixing?
14:49 <seb128> Laney, thx
14:49 <Wimpress> So #1776447 (Xorg) has a patch attached for Focal.
14:51 <Wimpress> Back to https://pad.lv/1861769
14:51 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1861769 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm3 crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast() from gdm_manager_handle_register_session() from ffi_call_unix64() from ffi_call() from g_cclosure_marshal_generic()" [Medium,Triaged]
14:51 <Wimpress> Looks like Daniel is investigating.
14:52 <Wimpress> Assign Daniel?
14:52 <seb128> 305 reports in 19.10
14:52 <seb128> I would just rls-ff-notfixing it
14:52 <seb128> it's a bug but I don't see any reason it needs to be rls targetted at this point
14:52 <seb128> others?
14:53 <Wimpress> OK with me. Can un tag it.
14:53 <didrocks> agreed, seems minor enough
14:53 <seb128> doing so
14:53 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1861409
14:53 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1861409 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "searching for irc takes more than 10 minutes" [Low,Incomplete]
14:54 <Wimpress> Un-tag that one I think.
14:54 <seb128> I can't reproduce and it lacks info
14:54 <Wimpress> I dropped that tag.
14:54 <seb128> yeah, +1 for untagging to me, especially that Sergio didn't reply to the request for debug info
14:54 <seb128> thx
14:54 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1862531
14:54 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1862531 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "[focal] Wayland session is not available when a laptop has an Nvidia card an Intel card is in use" [Low,Incomplete]
14:55 <Wimpress> Looks like Daniel understands that one.
14:56 <Wimpress> Assign Daniel and drop the tag?
14:56 <seb128> again seems non rls material to me
14:56 <didrocks> ack
14:56 <seb128> imho not assigning Daniel
14:56 <seb128> I doubt he's going to work on it
14:56 <Wimpress> OK
14:56 <Wimpress> Dropped tag.
14:56 <seb128> thx
14:56 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bug/1861310
14:56 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1861310 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Overlay with shortcut numbers not showing on dock with pressing Super+0 or Super+Q" [Low,Confirmed]
14:57 <Wimpress> Looks like a legit regression.
14:57 <kenvandine> yeah
14:57 <seb128> while I think it would be nice to fix I also don't feel like it's especially rls material
14:58 <Wimpress> HOw should we track it>?
14:58 <Trevinho> yeah, just a bug
14:58 <Trevinho> assign to me
14:58 <seb128> I tagged desktop-lts-wishlist which is how I built a personal list of 'would be nice to fix for the LTS'
14:58 <marcustomlinson> it's not obvious that it's "broken" really
14:58 <seb128> Trevinho, will you get to it realistically? you have lot of bugs assigned to you for cycles which aren't moving...
14:59 <marcustomlinson> just not there :P
14:59 <Trevinho> no, I'm saying not  to mark as RLS
14:59 <Wimpress> Assign to Trevinho and dropped the champagne tag.
14:59 <Trevinho> but just assigned, in case...
14:59 <seb128> wfm
14:59 <seb128> though I think like the assignement is a bit misleading
14:59 <seb128> but up to Marco, maybe he has time to look at it
14:59 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1860540
14:59 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1860540 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Password entry has no way of displaying what you type" [Low,Fix committed]
15:00 <seb128> that's fixed in 3.35
15:00 <seb128> just untag until the update lands?
15:00 <Wimpress> Yep, I'll untag it.
15:00 <Trevinho> it was fixed even before (it hjas a contextual menu)
15:00 <Trevinho> so not-a-bug
15:00 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151
15:00 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1838151 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support." [Wishlist,Triaged]
15:01 <seb128> Trevinho, the bug is that the context menu is not obvious, which is fixed now with an icon in the entry
15:01 <Wimpress> So, this Bluetooth bug I'd love to see fixed.
15:02 <seb128> Wimpress, another one that would be nice to be fixed but probably doesn't qualify for rls tracking imho...
15:02 <Wimpress> But as Daniel explains the required upstream patches have not been merged.
15:02 <Trevinho> seb128:  well, "no way..." there's a way :)
15:02 <seb128> I would love to fix all those annoyance
15:02 <Laney> unatgging> we should be adding rls-ff-notfixing at the same time
15:02 <seb128> Trevinho, title is misleading
15:03 <Wimpress> We have a Trello card for that Bluetooth one.
15:03 <seb128> Laney, I'm adding those
15:03 <seb128> Wimpress, realistically we will not get to it I think...
15:03 <seb128> but yeah, it's in the backlog so let's see
15:04 <Laney> If you want it worked on then I think Daniel will have to be asked to do it
15:04 <Laney> so a matter of priorities ....
15:04 <Wimpress> seb128: What was you wishlist tag?
15:04 <seb128> Wimpress, desktop-lts-wishlist
15:05 <Wimpress> Thanks.
15:05 <Wimpress> Updated accordingly.
15:05 <seb128> thx
15:05 <Wimpress> Perhaps fixing this for 20.04.1 is doable.
15:05 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1848326
15:05 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1848326 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "[cosmic+] error booting with prime-select intel: prime-select does not update initramfs to blacklist nvidia modules" [Undecided,Confirmed]
15:05 <Laney> agreed it'd be good to get it worked on at some point
15:05 <seb128> once we are in ff we should look at bugfixing backlog and adjust priorities
15:06 <seb128> imho
15:07 <seb128> tseliot, can you comment about that nvidia-prime one? how important is it?
15:07 <Laney> ask tseliot to look at that one ^- and accept or reject?
15:07 <Laney> wee
15:07 <Wimpress> While we wait...
15:07 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1848951
15:07 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1848951 in mutter (Ubuntu) "High CPU when just moving the mouse" [Medium,In progress]
15:08 <Wimpress> WHich is somewhat assigned to Daniel.
15:08 <seb128> I think it's unclear (to Daniel?) how the champagne tag should be used...
15:08 <seb128> the few assigned to him are ongoing work he's doing
15:09 <Wimpress> Yeah.
15:09 <Laney> right, I have an action item to draft an email about that
15:09 <tseliot> seb128, Laney, looking
15:10 <Laney> untag them I'd say
15:10 <seb128> +1
15:10 <Wimpress> Untagged.
15:11 <Wimpress> Shall we move on to AOB?
15:11 <seb128> +1
15:12 <Wimpress> Actually.
15:12 <Wimpress> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
15:12 <Wimpress> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
15:12 <seb128> oh right :)
15:12 <Laney> heh
15:13 <Laney> any insights seb128 ?
15:13 <seb128> so I reviewed that yesterday/today
15:13 <seb128> colord the i386 hint needs to be updated, I pinged Steve about it to know if we shouldn't just badtest all versions
15:13 <Laney> yeh
15:14 <Laney> that should be a reset-test, I will do that
15:14 <seb128> gscan2pdf/arm64 needs to be owned
15:14 <seb128> any taker?
15:14 <seb128> marcustomlinson, hellsworth, do you know what's going with http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libr/libreoffice/focal/arm64 ?
15:15 <hellsworth> i will look at the failing tests asap
15:15 <tkamppeter> seb128, this is also blocking CUPS.
15:15 <seb128> hellsworth, thanks
15:15 <hellsworth> i saw the emails come through over the weekend but hadn't had a chance to look
15:16 <seb128> the c2esp/cups/cups-filters one have been retried and are green again with new ghostscript, that one needs a refresh to reflect
15:16 <marcustomlinson> hellsworth seb128: looks really odd, like something up with the builder
15:16 <seb128> blubblewrap looks like a libcap update issue, Lukazs has been poking at it so let's wait to see if he figures it out
15:16 <seb128> marcustomlinson, yeah...
15:16 <hellsworth> i was hoping that is what it would be since only some of the archs failed
15:16 <marcustomlinson> that same libreoffice package has passed many times before on arm64
15:16 <kenvandine> tkamppeter: congrats on getting that avahi fix upstream!
15:17 <seb128> mozjs60 failing to build I'm looking at
15:17 <seb128> and that should be it
15:17 <seb128> so gscan2pdf/arm64 needs an owner but didn't get one
15:17 <seb128> I'm going to card it and we will find a name to put on the card I guess
15:17 <tkamppeter> Yes, I wanted to say it now here, too: After 3 (!) years Trent merged it, hope he will do the promised release.
15:17 <tkamppeter> kenvandine, you have read it in my weekly update?
15:19 <seb128> https://trello.com/c/5lJGMuXL/123-gscan2pdf-arm64-autopkgtest-fails
15:19 <Wimpress> seb128: The gscan2pdf looks like the builder failed to come up.
15:19 <seb128> same as libreoffice?
15:19 <Wimpress> Or rebooted part way through the build.
15:19 <kenvandine> tkamppeter: and i got an email letting me know that's all resolved
15:19 <seb128> Wimpress, those are only the most recent tries, before it was failing on real error, e.g https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal/focal/arm64/g/gscan2pdf/20200131_095135_29260@/log.gz
15:20 <seb128> well timeout
15:20 <tkamppeter> kenvandine, yes, you were CCed in all that discussion.
15:20 <seb128> anyway, needs to be investigated, we have a card
15:20 <seb128> Wimpress, we can move to AOB
15:20 <Wimpress> OK
15:20 <Wimpress> #topic AOB
15:21 <Wimpress> Who has something else they'd like to discuss?
15:21 <didrocks> nothing for me
15:21 <marcustomlinson> so about nm, I'm open to taking a shot at it if we're short of hands there, but I suppose only from around mid-March
15:21 <marcustomlinson> I've got some other priorities until then :)
15:21 <Wimpress> didrocks: Have you got zsys feedback yet?
15:22 <seb128> marcustomlinson, I'm dealing with keeping up with upstream but help would be welcome!
15:22 <seb128> Wimpress, is that trolling? :(
15:22 <didrocks> Wimpress: still not, we got one update after requesting it on the Trello card but nothing more for ~1week
15:22 <Wimpress> OK. Let me go back to them.
15:22 <didrocks> I hope they won’t come at the last minute with a big list of things to fixed by FF
15:23 <Wimpress> Anyone got anything else?
15:23 <seb128> Wimpress, just mentioning it but I'm unsure those champagne bugs belong/fit in the rls review process, but Laney said he was planning to email about that so maybe that's enough to fix the problem
15:23 <seb128> but they seem to have different sementic
15:24 <seb128> people use them to flag thing they hit, I don't think they intend to flag release issues
15:24 <Wimpress> Correct. But we should quickly review them to identify any rls issue and tag/untag accoirdingly.
15:25 <seb128> could be easier going
15:25 <Laney> If you want to triage them off into the wishlist tag as a team specific process that's also fine
15:25 <Laney> Putting them on that list is a way to make us review them
15:25 <seb128> like having one person doing the pre-review and rls tag those worth it
15:25 <Laney> This works for all teams which use the rls report
15:26 <Wimpress> Also sounds good.
15:27 <Wimpress> All done?
15:27 <seb128> I guess
15:27 <tkamppeter> Any core-dev here who could upload SANE? It seems that at Debian no one is doing it? I do not want another LTS with old SANE.
15:28 <Wimpress> tkamppeter: Do you have current packaging?
15:28 <Wimpress> Have you filed a PR in Salsa?
15:28 <seb128> tkamppeter, sounds like one for robert_ancell
15:28 <seb128> kenvandine, ^
15:29 <tkamppeter> I have done debdiff, both for Debian and for Ubuntu, and reported bugs.
15:29 <kenvandine> seb128: perhaps
15:29 <kenvandine> tkamppeter: can you ping robert and ask him ?
15:30 <kenvandine> probably tomorrow first thing your morning
15:30 <kenvandine> or email
15:30 <tkamppeter> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=951213
15:30 <ubot5> Debian bug 951213 in sane-backends "Request for update: SANE 1.0.29" [Important,Open]
15:30 <Laney> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=951213 ?
15:30 <tkamppeter> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1862926?_ga=2.172825632.2092980052.1581966388-909070028.1563372650
15:30 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1862926 in sane-backends (Ubuntu) "Request for update: SANE 1.0.29" [High,Confirmed]
15:30 <Laney> that was tagged as pending on Saturday
15:31 <Wimpress> OK. We are out of time.
15:31 <Laney> feel free to persue it in Ubuntu also, but probably also keep an eye on if it can be synced again
15:31 <Wimpress> Thanks everyone.
15:31 <Wimpress> #endmeeting