== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting -2020-01-21, 21 Jan at 14:34 — 14:59 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-01-21-14.34.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== rls-ff-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-ff-bugs" started at 14:36.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-ee-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-ee-bugs" started at 14:44.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-bb-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-bb-bugs" started at 14:46.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages ===
The discussion about "update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages" started at 14:52.


=== aob ===
The discussion about "aob" started at 14:56.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * kenvandine (46)
 * seb128 (41)
 * Laney (12)
 * tkamppeter (4)
 * ubot5 (3)
 * meetingology (3)
 * oSoMoN (1)
 * didrocks (1)
 * hellsworth (1)
 * Trevinho (1)
 * marcustomlinson (1)



== Full Log ==


 14:34 <kenvandine> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting -2020-01-21

 14:34 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 21 14:34:35 2020 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 14:34 <meetingology> 

 14:34 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 14:34 <kenvandine> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney (out), marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out), Wimpress (out), hellsworth

 14:34 <marcustomlinson> \o

 14:34 <oSoMoN> o/

 14:34 <seb128> hey

 14:34 <hellsworth> o/

 14:35 <kenvandine> quiet day :)

 14:36 <kenvandine> lets dive in

 14:36 <kenvandine> #topic rls-ff-bugs

 14:36 <didrocks> hey

 14:36 <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:37 <seb128> urg, starting in reverse order

 14:37 * seb128 is destabilized

 14:37 <kenvandine> lol

 14:37 <kenvandine> that's the order in my template :)

 14:37 <kenvandine> tkamppeter is working on the cups-browsed bug

 14:38 <kenvandine> bug 1859610

 14:38 <ubot5> bug 1859610 in pygobject (Ubuntu Focal) "python-gi/arm64 segfaults with the focal-proposed libffi version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1859610

 14:38 <kenvandine> do we want to take that?

 14:38 <seb128> that's fixed in proposed

 14:38 <seb128> I will update the bug

 14:38 <kenvandine> oh, thanks

 14:39 <seb128> tkamppeter, do you need more info for the cups one? it's suprising that you can't reproduce, did you try to a fresh focal install?

 14:39 <tkamppeter> seb128, I have tried on an FF virtual machine, and there I did not get this crash.

 14:39 <seb128> :(

 14:40 <tkamppeter> The configuration there is the standard one.

 14:40 <tkamppeter> I have a little bit the feeling that it is somewhere deep in Avahi.

 14:40 <seb128> try maybe in an env without printer available?

 14:40 <seb128> avahi didn't change in years though

 14:41 <seb128> the reports statted with the focal update of cups-filters

 14:41 <seb128> kenvandine, anyway, let's not me delay the meeting on that one, we can discuss after the meeting

 14:41 <kenvandine> yeah

 14:41 <tkamppeter> yes, Avahi's maintainer has no time to do further development :(

 14:41 <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:43 <kenvandine> what's up with the NM bug there?

 14:43 <kenvandine> bug 1733321

 14:43 <ubot5> bug 1733321 in network-manager (Ubuntu Focal) "network-manager ADT tests fail with on ppc64el with artful/linux 4.13.0.17.18" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1733321

 14:43 <kenvandine> that's old, but added focal and friends last month

 14:43 <kenvandine> guess we don't have anyone to work on it anyway

 14:44 <seb128> we said we would review the NMs one in a manager meeting but still didn't

 14:44 <seb128> I recommend we skip them again this week

 14:44 <kenvandine> skipped :)

 14:44 <kenvandine> #topic rls-ee-bugs

 14:44 <kenvandine> nothing incoming

 14:45 <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:45 <seb128> only nm that we are skipping I think?

 14:45 <kenvandine> the unassigned mutter bug, which is in proposed

 14:46 <kenvandine> so moving on

 14:46 <kenvandine> #topic rls-bb-bugs

 14:46 <kenvandine> bug 1855893

 14:46 <ubot5> bug 1855893 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Properly let PCM leave suspended state when hardware doesn't support PCM resume" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1855893

 14:47 <seb128> we agreed on track it, I assigned but failed to nominate it looks like, I'm going to fix that now

 14:47 <kenvandine> should that still be incoming?

 14:47 <kenvandine> thanks

 14:47 <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:48 <kenvandine> just NM

 14:48 <kenvandine> that's it

 14:48 <Laney> just noted that down

 14:49 <Laney> in the notes for that meeting

 14:49 <Laney> to visit there

 14:49 <kenvandine> hey Laney

 14:49 <Laney> yo

 14:49 * Laney can't see screen very well

 14:49 <kenvandine> want to talk autopackage?

 14:49 <kenvandine> or skip this week

 14:50 <Laney> i havent looked, sorry about that, this is the first time I opened my laptop today :(

 14:50 <Laney> maybe seb128 is up to date tho

 14:50 <kenvandine> no worries

 14:50 <seb128> what?

 14:50 <Laney> excuses

 14:50 <seb128> I lost context

 14:50 <seb128> are you refering to proposed migration? if so yes I can handle that part

 14:50 <kenvandine> yes

 14:51 <Laney> wait we didn't do any -incoming?

 14:51 <kenvandine> yes we did ;)

 14:51 <seb128> Ken started in reverse order

 14:51 <seb128> we just finish with bionic :p

 14:51 <kenvandine> yeah, sorry :)

 14:51 <seb128> sorry I didn't see your "autopackage" mention

 14:51 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 14:51 <Laney> oh yeah you just linked the ff one only ;-)

 14:52 <kenvandine> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 14:52 <seb128> thx

 14:52 <seb128> so it's going to be easy

 14:52 <seb128> $biglist which is due mostly to

 14:53 <seb128> - python-gi/armhhf being broken unless you manually retry with a right list of triggers

 14:53 <seb128> - libffi soname transition

 14:54 <seb128> - build-essential:amd64 not being installable breaking all the i386 tests

 14:54 <seb128> those things are being worked on and not specific to us

 14:55 <seb128> in the real issue issues there is openscad/s390x which I've been trying to argue we should skip even if it's a real bug because we don't support graphical stack on s390x

 14:55 <seb128> gscan2pdf/arm64 seems to be hanging, Laney  was looking at that

 14:55 <Laney> yes

 14:55 <Laney> i didn't get back to it today though sorry

 14:56 <seb128> the new n-m made tests unhappy, I plan to look at that since I did the update

 14:56 <seb128> glib

 14:56 <seb128> xdg-desktop-portal: i386

 14:56 <seb128> is also my fault and I will fix

 14:56 <seb128> and I think that's it

 14:56 <kenvandine> ok

 14:56 <kenvandine> #topic aob

 14:57 <seb128> A reminder that updates are due on discourse on monday, if you have monday off best to post the friday before

 14:58 <seb128> (that stands also for people travelling, I forgot as well and took a note to do it on friday next time before leaving)

 14:58 <kenvandine> indeed, with a long weekend it can be hard to remember what you did :)

 14:58 <kenvandine> anything else?

 14:59 <seb128> I don't think so

 14:59 <kenvandine> going... going...

 14:59 <Trevinho> all good here

 14:59 <seb128> the mid-cycle sprint is going well so far, no surprise nor change of plans

 14:59 <kenvandine> yay

 14:59 <seb128> bonjourno Trevinho  :)

 14:59 <kenvandine> #endmeeting



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