14:32 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-01-14
14:32 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 14 14:32:08 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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14:32 <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: yeah, https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2874
14:32 <seb128> bonjourno Trevinho, glad to see you woke up to join us :)
14:32 <kenvandine> marcustomlinson: sweet!
14:32 <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (off), heather, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
14:33 <oSoMoN> \o
14:33 <Trevinho> seb128: argggggggggg!
14:33 <marcustomlinson> \o
14:33 <Trevinho> o/
14:34 <seb128> sorry my external keyboard just stopped responding for some reason, always when you are in a rush that those things happen!
14:34 <hellsworth> good morning folks! sorry i'm a bit late
14:34 <seb128> ok, resolved!
14:35 <seb128> k, let's get really started
14:35 <seb128> sorry again
14:35 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs
14:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:35 <seb128> bug #1854363
14:35 <ubot5> bug 1854363 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "[upstream] ReferenceError: processLDAPValues is not defined" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1854363
14:36 <seb128> oSoMoN, is that part of 68.4.1?
14:36 <seb128> ah you said 0.68.3
14:36 <seb128> so I guess it's being handled/should be assigned to you?
14:37 <oSoMoN> yes
14:37 <seb128> thx
14:37 <seb128> bug #1855893
14:37 <ubot5> bug 1855893 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Properly let PCM leave suspended state when hardware doesn't support PCM resume" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1855893
14:38 <seb128> we discussed about this one previous week seems like I failed to target, maybe launchpad timeouted and I didn't notice
14:38 <seb128> will fix it now
14:38 <seb128> and that's it
14:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:38 <seb128> only the nm ones (still) on that list, we can skip that
14:38 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs
14:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:38 <seb128> no desktop entry
14:39 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:39 <seb128> n-m there as well
14:39 <seb128> bug #1762391
14:39 <ubot5> bug 1762391 in systemd (Ubuntu Eoan) "pam_group.so is not evaluated by gnome-terminal" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762391
14:40 <seb128> looks like Daren is handling it from a systemd side
14:41 <seb128> dgadomski, ^ right? what is g-t also targetted for eoan and is that something you are handling?
14:41 <dgadomski> seb128: that's correct
14:42 <dgadomski> there was an regression in CI that needs to be resolved before it gets backported to Ubuntu
14:42 <seb128> dgadomski, k, please either assign the g-t line to yourself or close it invalid if it's only to fix in systemd
14:42 <seb128> oh ok
14:42 <seb128> thx for looking into it
14:42 <seb128> that's it for e-serie
14:42 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bugs
14:42 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:43 <seb128> bug #1857815
14:43 <ubot5> bug 1857815 in cups-filters (Ubuntu) "cups-browsed assert failure: corrupted double-linked list" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1857815
14:43 <seb128> Till is working on it, I need to provide more debug since he seems to not be able to trigger the problem
14:43 <seb128> anyway, it's being handled, I don't think it matters much if it's rls tracked or not
14:43 <seb128> I vote to nominate since it's the most report error atm on focal
14:44 <hellsworth> sounds good to me
14:44 <kenvandine> +1
14:44 <seb128> thx
14:44 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:45 <seb128> n-m again
14:45 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:45 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:45 <seb128> Laney, yours! (or do you want me to handle it since I've been keeping an eye on that recently?)
14:46 <Laney> seb128: you can if you want
14:46 <seb128> k, let me do it then, going to be quick :p
14:46 <seb128> first is a MIR registered that needs to get reviewed
14:46 <seb128> tjaalton, is openscad/s390x something you are working on? it seems real, it has been retried a few times and always fails now
14:47 <Laney> just pinged cpaelze_r about that, he took it on (thanks)
14:47 <Laney> the mir
14:47 <seb128> thx!
14:47 <seb128> then the rest is grey whcih we agreed to skip
14:47 <seb128> and is mostly going down to libffi/arm64 being busted in proposed
14:47 <seb128> which makes python-gi segfault
14:47 <seb128> which a stack of tests are relying on
14:48 <seb128> d_oko said it's known/being handled so hopefully it sorts out this week and we have a better view next week
14:48 <seb128> and that's it for that section
14:48 <seb128> #topic AOB
14:48 <seb128> any other topic?
14:49 <hellsworth> will there be a meeting next week since several of you will be in cape town?
14:49 <didrocks> I have two MIR related topics
14:50 <seb128> @next week, I think there is value in still having it
14:50 <seb128> kenvandine, since you are not going maybe you can chair?
14:50 <seb128> I will join if there is no conflict
14:50 <kenvandine> sure
14:50 <didrocks> my turn now :]
14:50 <seb128> thx
14:50 <seb128> didrocks, yes
14:50 <didrocks> 5:30:39      cpaelzer | seb128 isn't here, didrocks could you ask internally if Desktop wants to re-emphasize or drop the efforts on usbguard?
14:51 <didrocks> I guess if we are not going to do it, we should mark it as invalid
14:51 <seb128> we discussed that this morning with Wimpress, we will follow up on that this week
14:51 <Trevinho> seb had that in his whishlist
14:51 <seb128> we need a reply from oem first before deciding
14:51 <Trevinho> would indeed be nice
14:51 <didrocks> can we move it to incomplete and change it back if this is valid?
14:51 <tjaalton> seb128: I don't know what's going on there
14:51 <didrocks> so that it's off our MIR list
14:51 <seb128> didrocks, I will update it after the meeting
14:51 <didrocks> thx!
14:51 <seb128> np!
14:51 <didrocks> second one is…
14:51 <didrocks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gamemode/+bug/1853830
14:51 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1853830 in gamemode (Ubuntu) "[MIR] gamemode" [Undecided,New]
14:52 <didrocks> is that up for review?
14:52 <seb128> yes
14:52 <didrocks> thx. I think this will be on my plate
14:52 <seb128> did we screw something in the status that created the doubt?
14:52 <didrocks> any urgency?
14:52 <seb128> I think no, unless Wimpress overrule me on it
14:52 <seb128> nice to have, probably not too complex to review
14:52 <didrocks> I think as it felt from the crack and not acted by us in a good timeline, we didn't know if someone took it or not
14:53 <didrocks> ack. I'll see what I can do
14:53 <seb128> would be nice to have by ff if possiblen, but not a strategic goal
14:53 <seb128> thx
14:53 <didrocks> thatês it for me
14:53 <seb128> thx didrocks!
14:53 <seb128> other topics?
14:53 <didrocks> yw :)
14:53 <seb128> I think we should start looking at the new GNOME serie
14:54 <didrocks> (ê instead of ' -> still learning typing on this keyboard)
14:54 <seb128> but probably a discussion to have in Trevinho here which doesn't need to be during the meeting
14:55 <seb128> (for those who didn't see the value of azerty, you should reconsider, they did a new iteration of the layout which is even better ;)
14:55 <Trevinho> being at the top of the stack, normally most of things can start earlier if it matters
14:55 <Trevinho> but we can discuss alter
14:55 <didrocks> (better but OMG I have to learn typing again!)
14:55 * Trevinho would look at something more ergonmic..
14:56 <seb128> k, let's wrap the meeting then and discuss that a bit
14:56 <Wimpress> didrocks tried to convince me of this last week.
14:56 <seb128> thx everyone!
14:56 <seb128> #endmeeting