== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-12-17, 17 Dec at 14:34 — 15:28 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-12-17-14.34.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== rls-bb-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-bb-bugs" started at 14:35.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/942856 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1637988 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libssh/+bug/1847514 

=== rls-dd-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-dd-bugs" started at 15:03.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-ee-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-ee-bugs" started at 15:05.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://launchpad.net/bugs/1845801 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules/+bug/1856407 

=== rls-ff-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-ff-bugs" started at 15:17.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages ===
The discussion about "update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages" started at 15:19.

  * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 

=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 15:24.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * Wimpress (66)
 * seb128 (61)
 * Laney (21)
 * hellsworth (15)
 * ubot5 (10)
 * marcustomlinson (7)
 * Trevinho (6)
 * oSoMoN (4)
 * kenvandine (4)
 * tseliot (3)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 14:34 <Wimpress> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-12-17

 14:34 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec 17 14:34:27 2019 UTC.  The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 14:34 <meetingology> 

 14:34 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 14:34 <seb128> that's the effect of winter on you? ;-)

 14:34 <Wimpress> Roll call:  didrocks (out), duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell

 14:34 <seb128> _o/

 14:34 <marcustomlinson> \o

 14:34 <Trevinho> _/

 14:34 <kenvandine> hey

 14:35 <Laney> sup

 14:35 <oSoMoN> o/

 14:35 <hellsworth> \o

 14:35 <Wimpress> #topic rls-bb-bugs

 14:35 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:36 <Wimpress> This one is still unassigned http://launchpad.net/bugs/1856054

 14:36 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1856054 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd" [High,Confirmed]

 14:37 <marcustomlinson> we're tracking this as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd-glib/+bug/1856196

 14:37 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1856196 in snapd-glib (Ubuntu Eoan) "Lower the snapd recommends to a suggests" [High,Fix committed]

 14:37 <marcustomlinson> right?

 14:38 <marcustomlinson> in any case feels like a -1 from me

 14:39 <Laney> that bug should be won't fixed with a reference to the other one

 14:39 <seb128> right

 14:39 <Laney> when that is done it's just someone ranting about a library

 14:40 <hellsworth> should the second bug be moved to a different release to get actually addressed?

 14:40 <hellsworth> well fix committed effectively across teh board

 14:40 <seb128> it's already targetting the different series it needs

 14:40 <hellsworth> right

 14:40 <hellsworth> thanks

 14:42 <Wimpress> Right, so I shjall close #1856054

 14:43 <seb128> wontfix it yeah

 14:43 <Wimpress> Done.

 14:43 <Wimpress> Move on to tracking bugs?

 14:43 <seb128> yes

 14:43 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:44 <kenvandine> bug 1794478

 14:44 <ubot5> bug 1794478 in network-manager (Ubuntu Bionic) "Automatic ipv4 not assigned to bond interface is manual ipv6 is assigned to it" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794478

 14:45 <Wimpress> There's a few unassisnged for desktop.

 14:45 <Laney> Till unassigned a bunch of bugs from himself

 14:46 <hellsworth> there are so many unassigned bugs in the unknown section..

 14:46 <oSoMoN> I just talked to slashd about that specific one, and he said his team is going to take care of it, as it's something a client cares about

 14:47 <Wimpress> SHould we assign it to slahd then?

 14:47 <kenvandine> great

 14:47 <oSoMoN> I don't know, I'd let him do that, it's fine to leave it unassigned until then, no?

 14:47 <oSoMoN> I'll ping him to ask

 14:47 <Wimpress> OK

 14:48 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/942856

 14:48 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 942856 in network-manager (Ubuntu Bionic) "NetworkManager does not support AES-encrypted private keys for WPA 802.1x authentication" [Medium,In progress]

 14:49 <seb128> they are all in the same bucket of 'bionic n-m SRU needs someone to care about it if we want to see it happening'

 14:49 <seb128> I'm unsure we are going to resolve that today...

 14:50 <Wimpress> seb128 Laney kenvandine I think we need to review these in a separate call.

 14:50 <seb128> or we just rls-bb-notfixing those for now to reflect we don't have maintainer and can't take on those

 14:50 <Laney> ok

 14:50 <seb128> that wfm

 14:50 <Wimpress> Let's just park the n-m unassigfned bugs for now.

 14:50 <seb128> +1

 14:50 <kenvandine> +1

 14:51 <Laney> Next meeting we should deal with them either way if they are still there

 14:51 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1637988

 14:51 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1637988 in gvfs (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Enable the nfs backend" [Wishlist,Fix committed]

 14:51 <Laney> Don't want them to be hanging around eternally

 14:51 <seb128> indeed

 14:51 <Wimpress> Agreed.

 14:51 <seb128> Wimpress, we usually skop the fix commited ones

 14:52 <seb128> that gvfs is another tricky situation

 14:52 <seb128> and not new

 14:52 <Laney> looks like fix committed is wrong there though, is it?

 14:52 <seb128> basically libnfs is in universe in bionic/cosmic and has been promoted since

 14:53 <seb128> Laney, yes, the SRU got deleted

 14:53 <Laney> nod

 14:53 <seb128> I don't have the energy to deal with that one atm though

 14:53 <seb128> but we should probably either wontfix or put back to triaged

 14:54 <seb128> basically security team would like to see a libnfs update if we want to retro-promote

 14:54 <seb128> but that comes with a soname change

 14:54 <seb128> there was some customer requests behind though

 14:54 <seb128> maybe another one to discuss in the same other meeting...

 14:54 <Laney> can't be that important if it idled for 7 months

 14:55 * Laney is on team won't fix ;-)

 14:55 <seb128> right

 14:55 <seb128> well, maybe we lost a customer on the way or disapponted one :-(

 14:55 <Wimpress> I am OK with won't fix for bionic.

 14:55 <seb128> Wimpress, go for it then

 14:55 <seb128> if we wontfix bionic we can wontfix cosmic as well for sure

 14:56 <Laney> lol cosmic

 14:56 <seb128> well in any case cosmic is wontfix at this point

 14:56 <seb128> :)

 14:56 <Laney> :D

 14:57 <Wimpress> Done.

 14:57 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libssh/+bug/1847514

 14:57 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1847514 in libssh (Ubuntu Bionic) "libssh-0.8 is detected as 0.7" [Undecided,Confirmed]

 14:58 <Wimpress> Why is libssh in the desktop-packages?

 14:59 <Laney> remmina it looks like

 14:59 * Wimpress blames Trevinho ;-)

 15:00 <Wimpress> I don't think this is rl critical for the desktop.

 15:00 <seb128> it looks like a real problem but no obvious solution and probably not rls material imho

 15:00 <seb128> I vote rls-bb-notfixing

 15:01 <Wimpress> +1

 15:01 <Laney> indeed

 15:01 <hellsworth> agreed

 15:01 <Wimpress> Done

 15:01 <Laney> you need to delete the bionic line fwiw

 15:01 * Trevinho not sure is faulty for libssh being there.

 15:01 <Laney> for ones that already got nominated

 15:02 <Wimpress> ANd done.

 15:02 <Wimpress> Move on to Disco?

 15:02 <seb128> +1

 15:03 <Wimpress> #topic rls-dd-bugs

 15:03 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 15:03 <Wimpress> Looks good.

 15:03 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 15:04 <Wimpress> An n-m bug there we will sort out another time.

 15:04 <seb128> +1

 15:04 <Wimpress> Other than that looks good.

 15:04 <Wimpress> Time for Eoan?

 15:05 <seb128> yes

 15:05 <Wimpress> #topic rls-ee-bugs

 15:05 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 15:05 <Wimpress> Looks good.

 15:06 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 15:07 <Wimpress> I'll skip over the n-m unassigned bug

 15:07 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1845801

 15:07 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1845801 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Automatic login fails and then all subsequent logins fail. Killing gnome-session-binary fixes it, or just not using automatic login." [Undecided,Confirmed]

 15:08 <seb128> Laney, is that similar to your recent problems/debugging?

 15:08 <seb128> Wimpress, we should probably just assign the other lines to tseliot there

 15:09 <Laney> doubt it

 15:09 <Laney> that's the same bug we have been skipping for weeks

 15:09 <seb128> right, I'm assigning to tseliot now

 15:09 <Laney> cool

 15:09 <Wimpress> I've assigned Alberto to gnome-session since he assigned himself to that for Eoan.

 15:10 <Wimpress> But, what about gnome-shell?

 15:10 <seb128> I did the same

 15:10 <seb128> one person does the investigation

 15:10 <Wimpress> OK.

 15:10 <seb128> we can then reassign later if required

 15:10 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules/+bug/1856407

 15:10 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1856407 in linux-restricted-modules (Ubuntu Eoan) "nvidia-435 is in eoan, linux-restricted-modules only builds against 430, ubiquity gives me the self-signed modules experience instead of using the Canonical-signed modules" [High,In progress]

 15:11 <tseliot> Wimpress, seb128 what am I supposed to do with that, exactly? Disable the splash with NVIDIA?

 15:12 <seb128> tseliot, I don't know, I don't understand the issue enough to tell. But it seems to be something quite some user complain about so we need to dig at the bottom of it

 15:13 <seb128> Wimpress, unsure what is needed for ubuntu-drivers-common in that one but looks like Seth is on it

 15:13 <seb128> maybe assign to him with a comment saying to reassign back/talk to us if there is work needed from our side?

 15:13 <Wimpress> OK

 15:14 <tseliot> I can't really reproduce the problem here

 15:15 <tseliot> and I think that blacklisting nvidia, and have it default to the text splash might be a little heavy handed

 15:17 <seb128> k, we need to have a look/discuss options

 15:17 <seb128> but probably not now, we still have some topics to cover and less than 15min to the next meeting for some of us

 15:17 <Wimpress> #topic rls-ff-bugs

 15:17 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 15:18 <Wimpress> Looks good.

 15:18 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 15:18 <Wimpress> n-m again. SKip that for now.

 15:18 <Wimpress> Other than that, looks good.

 15:19 <Wimpress> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 15:19 <seb128> incoming actually should be empty, those are assigned, I'm untagging them

 15:19 <Wimpress> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 15:20 <Wimpress> Nice work team! Excuses is looking in good shape for desktop.

 15:20 <seb128> \o/

 15:20 <marcustomlinson> wow

 15:20 <marcustomlinson> looks good

 15:20 <seb128> one is a MIR waiting for security review, one is waiting for steve to do i386 restoring of binaries

 15:20 <hellsworth> hopefully we'll get the libmail-dkim-perl sorted out this week too

 15:20 <seb128> basically our only real item is the duplicity build failure

 15:21 <seb128> the 2 bottoms ones built now so they should go away

 15:21 <Wimpress> Should we create a Trello card for duplicity?

 15:21 <Laney> someone needs to fix it, so ... probably

 15:22 <Wimpress> seb128: Please, can you create card for duplicity.

 15:22 <Wimpress> ANyone fancy it?

 15:22 <seb128> I can (if we don't have it yet)

 15:22 <seb128> I'm working on it

 15:22 <hellsworth> i'll take a look at duplicity

 15:22 <seb128> hellsworth, oh, if you want that would be welcome :)

 15:22 <Wimpress> Thanks hellsworth

 15:23 <hellsworth> will you please create the card and add me to it?

 15:23 <hellsworth> or i can'

 15:23 <hellsworth> there will be a card and it will be looked at :)

 15:23 <seb128> hellsworth, https://bugs.launchpad.net/duplicity/+bug/1853809 was used for some of that but got closed

 15:23 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1853809 in Duplicity "Tests fail with python 3.8 due to deprecation warnings" [High,Fix released]

 15:23 <Wimpress> Great.

 15:23 <hellsworth> ok thanks seb128

 15:23 <hellsworth> i'll holler if i get stuck

 15:23 <seb128> hellsworth, I will card it and add you

 15:23 <hellsworth> ty

 15:23 <seb128> thanks to you!

 15:23 <Wimpress> Time for AOB?

 15:24 <seb128> hellsworth, ah, we have one already, adding you to https://trello.com/c/BwzB6AHv/12-duplicity-focal-ftbfs

 15:24 <Wimpress> #topic AOB

 15:24 <Wimpress> I need coffee before the next call.

 15:24 <Wimpress> Nothing more from me.

 15:25 <Trevinho> I might need some comments on https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/3v1n0/libfprint-tod-example-driver

 15:25 <seb128> nothing from me either

 15:25 <Trevinho> so feel free to check that

 15:25 <Trevinho> (and dependent lib)

 15:25 <seb128> Trevinho, k, what does "tod" mean?

 15:26 <Trevinho> TOuch Driver... I didn't like just "td" xD

 15:26 <seb128> Wimpress, we should aim at making the meeting go a bit faster in the futur if we can, it used to fit in an half hour, more time for coffee :-)

 15:26 <marcustomlinson> Trevinho: I think this fell out of your radar. Please could you comment: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128803

 15:26 <ubot5> bugs.documentfoundation.org bug 128803 in Calc "Copy / pasting cell in Calc sometimes pastes as an image" [Normal,New]

 15:26 <Wimpress> seb128: OK.

 15:27 <Wimpress> All done?

 15:27 <seb128> I think so

 15:28 <Wimpress> #endmeeting



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