14:34 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-11-19
14:34 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 19 14:34:02 2019 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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14:34 <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), hellsworth, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine (out iirc?), laney (out), marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
14:34 <hellsworth> o/
14:34 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs
14:34 <marcustomlinson> \o
14:34 <jibel> \o
14:34 <Trevinho> o/
14:35 <seb128> Wimpress, you handle those or do you want me to just drive while you get used to the way we usually roll?
14:35 <Wimpress> Ken is visiting a customer.
14:35 <Wimpress> seb128: Please run this one, I making note :-)
14:35 <seb128> k, what I though, but since we didn't get that "start of week" email :p
14:35 <seb128> Wimpress,
14:35 <seb128> k
14:35 <seb128> so bionic bugs!
14:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:35 <seb128> desktop section empty
14:36 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:36 <seb128> (looking for unassigned bugs which aren't fix commited)
14:36 <seb128> bug #1836979
14:36 <ubot5> bug 1836979 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Kodi crashes with “nouveau_vp3_video_buffer_create: Assertion `templat->interlaced' failed”" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1836979
14:36 <seb128> that's incomplete so we can skip until it gets enough info
14:37 <seb128> bug #1852315
14:37 <ubot5> bug 1852315 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-435 (Ubuntu Eoan) "CVE‑2019‑5696 5697 5698" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1852315
14:37 <seb128> seems like that one makes sense to track and should be assigned to tseliot_ / security
14:37 <seb128> tseliot_, you handle it? can you assign the different lines as appropriate?
14:38 <seb128> and that's it for bionic
14:38 <seb128> #topic rls-dd-bugs
14:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:38 <seb128> desktop section empty
14:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:38 <seb128> nothing unassigned
14:38 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs
14:39 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:39 <seb128> bug #1850696
14:39 <ubot5> bug 1850696 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Regression: cannot close notifications" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1850696
14:39 <seb128> L_aney nominated it
14:40 <seb128> I do agree it's annoying, I don't know if I consider it annoy enough to be rls tracked though
14:40 <seb128> what do others think?
14:40 <hellsworth> Laney's rational makes sense to me
14:40 <hellsworth> a regression is bad
14:40 <Wimpress> I agree.
14:40 <Wimpress> If we don't track it in ee we may lose it for ff.
14:41 <oSoMoN> +1
14:41 <seb128> k, I'm overuled, fine :)
14:41 * Trevinho gets it then...
14:41 <seb128> Trevinho, sorry man!
14:41 <seb128> Daniel is not around atm, we need to get you more gnome-shell hackers to help in the team
14:41 * Trevinho waits for some other upstream to arrive :-D
14:42 <seb128> next
14:42 <seb128> bug #1852183
14:42 <ubot5> bug 1852183 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[X11] copy/paste (clipboard) is broken in Ubuntu 19.10" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1852183
14:42 <seb128> poor Trevinho
14:43 <seb128> I consider that one more problematic than the notifications which are only cosmetic
14:43 <marcustomlinson> right so this is upstream in both mutter and libreoffice it seems
14:43 <seb128> so if we gave +1 to the previous one I vote +1 for that one
14:43 <seb128> marcustomlinson, did you test if the mutter mp to prefer the text type was enough to fix the issue in libreoffice?
14:43 <Trevinho> seb128: is not
14:44 <marcustomlinson> seb128: I have not
14:44 <Trevinho> I mean, well. for LO it could be enough in some scenarios
14:44 <Wimpress> Yep, this one needs rls tracking.
14:44 <Trevinho> but....
14:44 <Trevinho> LO is also broken
14:44 <marcustomlinson> Trevinho said that was not the way to go though
14:44 <seb128> k, anyway, we shouldn' t discuss technically details
14:44 <seb128> +1 for nomination
14:44 <Trevinho> I'+1
14:44 <oSoMoN> +1 as well
14:44 <seb128> Trevinho, gets the shell side, marcustomlinson the libreoffice one
14:44 <seb128> Trevinho, marcustomlinson, k?
14:44 <marcustomlinson> yeah
14:44 <seb128> thx
14:45 <seb128> done
14:45 <Trevinho> k
14:45 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:46 <seb128> same nvidia one we talked about earlier
14:46 <seb128> the other ones are either owned or incomplete or fix commited
14:46 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-incoming
14:46 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bugs
14:46 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:46 <seb128> the first one is assigned I just forgot to untag, doing that now
14:46 <seb128> the other 2 we just discussed
14:47 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:47 <seb128> that's in shape
14:47 <seb128> </bug>
14:47 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:47 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:47 <seb128> L_aney asked me to take care of that one since
14:47 <seb128> - he's off today
14:48 <seb128> - asking for volunteer 2 weeks ago didn't get us much tractions
14:48 <seb128> sooo
14:48 <hellsworth> i'll volunteer for harfbuzz and pango
14:49 <seb128> we have some easy MIRs (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess) to file from that list
14:49 <hellsworth> i haven't done this before so i don't really know what i'm signed up for so i'll ask for hand holding :)
14:49 <oSoMoN> I haven't sorted out the librsvg one due to lack of time but I'll look into it this week
14:49 <seb128> I would suggest that as part of sharing the knownledge on how to do MIR, we would ask people who never filed on to volunteer maybe?
14:50 <seb128> I'm fine helping/working with you to explain the process and get the bugs filed
14:50 <hellsworth> yep i volunteer
14:50 <seb128> thx hellsworth!
14:50 <seb128> need a second one
14:50 <didrocks> I'm happy to tutor hellsworth on filing a MIR (and do the review at the same time then)
14:50 <hellsworth> i picked two random ones though
14:50 <seb128> marcustomlinson, did you ever do one?
14:50 <marcustomlinson> yes but I'll do another
14:50 <seb128> k, thanks
14:50 <hellsworth> sweet! didrocks i'll ping you afterwords on how to get started
14:50 <didrocks> same for marcustomlinson :)
14:50 <didrocks> that way, we tackle the reviewing side of MIR-team
14:51 <seb128> hellsworth, didrocks, bug #1851395
14:51 <ubot5> bug 1851395 in libmail-authenticationresults-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmail-authenticationresults-perl, dependency of libmaildekim-perl" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1851395
14:51 <seb128> hellsworth, that's yours then
14:51 <hellsworth> okey dokey
14:52 <seb128> thx
14:52 <seb128> hellsworth, I will help you for harfbuzz/pango, let's have a look together when you want
14:52 <hellsworth> perfect sounds good
14:53 <seb128> marcustomlinson, I though we had a second MIR, but the first in the list might go away by demoting emacs components
14:53 <seb128> if others want to volunteer for something please let me know in /query | /msg
14:53 <seb128> I will add trello cards and we will find assignees otherwise
14:54 <seb128> just as a FYI I think fixing issue for "un-owned" components should be a shared effort and asking for volunteers doesn't work great from past cycles experience
14:54 <seb128> so I'm going to propose we just start doing equal assingement to team members for those items
14:54 <seb128> but that doesn't need to be discussed/sorted out here&today
14:55 <seb128> #topic AOB
14:55 <seb128> ok, any other topic?
14:55 <seb128> one from me, I will start updating the trello for new cycles
14:55 <didrocks> nothing for me
14:56 <seb128> adding cards for the work I know about, in one column sorted by importance/priority
14:56 <seb128> we said in Paris we would try that, so let's see how it goes
14:56 <Wimpress> seb128: We can work on that together a little later if you lie?
14:56 <Wimpress> *like
14:56 <seb128> if you have work you plan to do feel free to card it as well
14:57 <seb128> Wimpress, sure, let's chat about it after the meeting
14:57 <seb128> any other topic?
14:57 <Wimpress> Not right now.
14:58 <seb128> k, let's wrap then
14:58 <seb128> thanks team!
14:58 <seb128> #endmeeting