14:34 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-11-19 14:34 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 19 14:34:02 2019 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:34 <meetingology> 14:34 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:34 <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), hellsworth, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine (out iirc?), laney (out), marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 14:34 <hellsworth> o/ 14:34 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs 14:34 <marcustomlinson> \o 14:34 <jibel> \o 14:34 <Trevinho> o/ 14:35 <seb128> Wimpress, you handle those or do you want me to just drive while you get used to the way we usually roll? 14:35 <Wimpress> Ken is visiting a customer. 14:35 <Wimpress> seb128: Please run this one, I making note :-) 14:35 <seb128> k, what I though, but since we didn't get that "start of week" email :p 14:35 <seb128> Wimpress, 14:35 <seb128> k 14:35 <seb128> so bionic bugs! 14:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:35 <seb128> desktop section empty 14:36 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:36 <seb128> (looking for unassigned bugs which aren't fix commited) 14:36 <seb128> bug #1836979 14:36 <ubot5> bug 1836979 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Kodi crashes with “nouveau_vp3_video_buffer_create: Assertion `templat->interlaced' failed”" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1836979 14:36 <seb128> that's incomplete so we can skip until it gets enough info 14:37 <seb128> bug #1852315 14:37 <ubot5> bug 1852315 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-435 (Ubuntu Eoan) "CVE‑2019‑5696 5697 5698" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1852315 14:37 <seb128> seems like that one makes sense to track and should be assigned to tseliot_ / security 14:37 <seb128> tseliot_, you handle it? can you assign the different lines as appropriate? 14:38 <seb128> and that's it for bionic 14:38 <seb128> #topic rls-dd-bugs 14:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:38 <seb128> desktop section empty 14:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:38 <seb128> nothing unassigned 14:38 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs 14:39 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:39 <seb128> bug #1850696 14:39 <ubot5> bug 1850696 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Regression: cannot close notifications" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1850696 14:39 <seb128> L_aney nominated it 14:40 <seb128> I do agree it's annoying, I don't know if I consider it annoy enough to be rls tracked though 14:40 <seb128> what do others think? 14:40 <hellsworth> Laney's rational makes sense to me 14:40 <hellsworth> a regression is bad 14:40 <Wimpress> I agree. 14:40 <Wimpress> If we don't track it in ee we may lose it for ff. 14:41 <oSoMoN> +1 14:41 <seb128> k, I'm overuled, fine :) 14:41 * Trevinho gets it then... 14:41 <seb128> Trevinho, sorry man! 14:41 <seb128> Daniel is not around atm, we need to get you more gnome-shell hackers to help in the team 14:41 * Trevinho waits for some other upstream to arrive :-D 14:42 <seb128> next 14:42 <seb128> bug #1852183 14:42 <ubot5> bug 1852183 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[X11] copy/paste (clipboard) is broken in Ubuntu 19.10" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1852183 14:42 <seb128> poor Trevinho 14:43 <seb128> I consider that one more problematic than the notifications which are only cosmetic 14:43 <marcustomlinson> right so this is upstream in both mutter and libreoffice it seems 14:43 <seb128> so if we gave +1 to the previous one I vote +1 for that one 14:43 <seb128> marcustomlinson, did you test if the mutter mp to prefer the text type was enough to fix the issue in libreoffice? 14:43 <Trevinho> seb128: is not 14:44 <marcustomlinson> seb128: I have not 14:44 <Trevinho> I mean, well. for LO it could be enough in some scenarios 14:44 <Wimpress> Yep, this one needs rls tracking. 14:44 <Trevinho> but.... 14:44 <Trevinho> LO is also broken 14:44 <marcustomlinson> Trevinho said that was not the way to go though 14:44 <seb128> k, anyway, we shouldn' t discuss technically details 14:44 <seb128> +1 for nomination 14:44 <Trevinho> I'+1 14:44 <oSoMoN> +1 as well 14:44 <seb128> Trevinho, gets the shell side, marcustomlinson the libreoffice one 14:44 <seb128> Trevinho, marcustomlinson, k? 14:44 <marcustomlinson> yeah 14:44 <seb128> thx 14:45 <seb128> done 14:45 <Trevinho> k 14:45 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:46 <seb128> same nvidia one we talked about earlier 14:46 <seb128> the other ones are either owned or incomplete or fix commited 14:46 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-incoming 14:46 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bugs 14:46 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:46 <seb128> the first one is assigned I just forgot to untag, doing that now 14:46 <seb128> the other 2 we just discussed 14:47 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:47 <seb128> that's in shape 14:47 <seb128> </bug> 14:47 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:47 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:47 <seb128> L_aney asked me to take care of that one since 14:47 <seb128> - he's off today 14:48 <seb128> - asking for volunteer 2 weeks ago didn't get us much tractions 14:48 <seb128> sooo 14:48 <hellsworth> i'll volunteer for harfbuzz and pango 14:49 <seb128> we have some easy MIRs (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess) to file from that list 14:49 <hellsworth> i haven't done this before so i don't really know what i'm signed up for so i'll ask for hand holding :) 14:49 <oSoMoN> I haven't sorted out the librsvg one due to lack of time but I'll look into it this week 14:49 <seb128> I would suggest that as part of sharing the knownledge on how to do MIR, we would ask people who never filed on to volunteer maybe? 14:50 <seb128> I'm fine helping/working with you to explain the process and get the bugs filed 14:50 <hellsworth> yep i volunteer 14:50 <seb128> thx hellsworth! 14:50 <seb128> need a second one 14:50 <didrocks> I'm happy to tutor hellsworth on filing a MIR (and do the review at the same time then) 14:50 <hellsworth> i picked two random ones though 14:50 <seb128> marcustomlinson, did you ever do one? 14:50 <marcustomlinson> yes but I'll do another 14:50 <seb128> k, thanks 14:50 <hellsworth> sweet! didrocks i'll ping you afterwords on how to get started 14:50 <didrocks> same for marcustomlinson :) 14:50 <didrocks> that way, we tackle the reviewing side of MIR-team 14:51 <seb128> hellsworth, didrocks, bug #1851395 14:51 <ubot5> bug 1851395 in libmail-authenticationresults-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmail-authenticationresults-perl, dependency of libmaildekim-perl" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1851395 14:51 <seb128> hellsworth, that's yours then 14:51 <hellsworth> okey dokey 14:52 <seb128> thx 14:52 <seb128> hellsworth, I will help you for harfbuzz/pango, let's have a look together when you want 14:52 <hellsworth> perfect sounds good 14:53 <seb128> marcustomlinson, I though we had a second MIR, but the first in the list might go away by demoting emacs components 14:53 <seb128> if others want to volunteer for something please let me know in /query | /msg 14:53 <seb128> I will add trello cards and we will find assignees otherwise 14:54 <seb128> just as a FYI I think fixing issue for "un-owned" components should be a shared effort and asking for volunteers doesn't work great from past cycles experience 14:54 <seb128> so I'm going to propose we just start doing equal assingement to team members for those items 14:54 <seb128> but that doesn't need to be discussed/sorted out here&today 14:55 <seb128> #topic AOB 14:55 <seb128> ok, any other topic? 14:55 <seb128> one from me, I will start updating the trello for new cycles 14:55 <didrocks> nothing for me 14:56 <seb128> adding cards for the work I know about, in one column sorted by importance/priority 14:56 <seb128> we said in Paris we would try that, so let's see how it goes 14:56 <Wimpress> seb128: We can work on that together a little later if you lie? 14:56 <Wimpress> *like 14:56 <seb128> if you have work you plan to do feel free to card it as well 14:57 <seb128> Wimpress, sure, let's chat about it after the meeting 14:57 <seb128> any other topic? 14:57 <Wimpress> Not right now. 14:58 <seb128> k, let's wrap then 14:58 <seb128> thanks team! 14:58 <seb128> #endmeeting