== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Meeting 2019-09-24, 24 Sep at 13:30 — 14:00 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-09-24-13.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1844575 
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/1845188 
=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 13:45.


=== unassigned rls bugs ===
The discussion about "unassigned rls bugs" started at 13:48.

  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1731459 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bug/1842904 

=== proposed migrations ===
The discussion about "proposed migrations" started at 13:53.

  * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 

=== AOB2 ===
The discussion about "AOB2" started at 13:58.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (76)
 * seb128 (39)
 * Laney (26)
 * ubot5 (9)
 * jibel (7)
 * oSoMoN (3)
 * meetingology (3)
 * Trevinho (2)
 * marcustomlinson (2)
 * didrocks (1)



== Full Log ==


 13:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting 2019-09-24

 13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 24 13:30:34 2019 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 13:30 <meetingology> 

 13:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 13:31 * Trevinho at 10 meters from ground

 13:31 <seb128> Trevinho, safe flight!

 13:31 <Trevinho> love 4g on connection

 13:31 <seb128> you are supposed to be in flight mode at this point btw :p

 13:31 <willcooke> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (hols), jamesh (hols), hellsworth(swap), jibel, kenvandine (out?), laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho (going up), robert_ancell (out)

 13:32 <oSoMoN> 🐱/

 13:32 <oSoMoN> Trevinho, don't crash that plane

 13:32 <seb128> hey

 13:32 <willcooke> happy travels Trevinho

 13:32 <willcooke> Flight mode FTW

 13:32 <willcooke> Let's zip through the rls bugs

 13:33 <jibel> you're also not supposed to use a laptop during takeoff

 13:33 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:33 <willcooke> Looks clear

 13:33 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:33 <willcooke> Also clear

 13:34 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:34 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1844575

 13:34 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1844575 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Pixelated fonts sometimes" [Undecided,New]

 13:34 <willcooke> Is it Wayland only?

 13:35 <seb128> likely

 13:35 <Laney> think so

 13:35 <Laney> DENIED

 13:35 <willcooke> heh

 13:35 <willcooke> so yeah, -1 for rls status I guess

 13:36 <seb128> -1

 13:37 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/1845188

 13:37 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1845188 in ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 19.10 Community Wallpapers" [Undecided,New]

 13:37 <willcooke> I tagged that, but really, it's not a release blocker

 13:37 <willcooke> I shouldn't have tagged it on reflection

 13:37 <Laney> well

 13:37 <Laney> gives me a chance to ask if anyone else wants to do it

 13:37 <Laney> :-)

 13:38 <willcooke> :)

 13:38 <Laney> got my hands inside gdm, would be good not to switch

 13:38 <willcooke> Would anyone like to package up the wallpapers, they should be ready to go

 13:38 <Laney> plus, easy packaging, could be fun for someone

 13:38 <willcooke> oSoMoN, I think you helped out last time, if you're interested?>

 13:38 <Laney> plenty of examples in the history to copy

 13:38 <oSoMoN> yeah, can do

 13:38 <willcooke> merci

 13:38 <Laney> neato

 13:39 <willcooke> Assigned, and untagged

 13:39 <seb128> thx oSoMoN

 13:39 <willcooke> which is kinda odd, but I think that's opk

 13:39 <willcooke> ok

 13:39 <seb128> I can do review/sponsoring if needed

 13:39 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 13:39 <willcooke> next up: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1845198

 13:39 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1845198 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "GNOME Shell seemingly locked up at login" [Critical,Confirmed]

 13:39 <willcooke> which may be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1845017 too

 13:39 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1845017 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Desktop hard lockup in 19.10" [Undecided,New]

 13:39 <seb128> +1

 13:40 <willcooke> yeah, agree

 13:40 <willcooke> and I think there's really only one person to look at it, right?

 13:40 <seb128> assign to Trevinho (sorry Marco)

 13:40 <seb128> yes :/

 13:40 <seb128> well maybe duflu could but he's off atm

 13:40 <seb128> we can to tradding of some work once he's back if needed

 13:40 <willcooke> ack

 13:41 <willcooke> assigned and targetted

 13:41 <willcooke> k, that's it for rls bugs.

 13:41 <jibel> another ee-incoming is bug 1844509

 13:41 <ubot5> bug 1844509 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-dm fails to start" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1844509

 13:41 <jibel> it is not in the list and affects ubiquity but it's more likely due to a desktop component

 13:41 <willcooke> jibel, so comment #2 is not true any more?

 13:42 <jibel> no it is not, I thought I added a comment to say so.

 13:42 <jibel> will do

 13:42 <seb128> ideally foundations would do the investigation and bounce back to us if needed since they own ubiquity but do we count on that?

 13:42 <willcooke> oki, thanks

 13:42 <willcooke> seb128, I dont think we should count on it

 13:42 <seb128> k

 13:42 <seb128> anyway +1

 13:43 <willcooke> who would like to work out what's going on in that one?

 13:43 <willcooke> is it related to the previous one?

 13:43 <seb128> dunno but I've the bug in a VM atm and looking at the logs

 13:43 <seb128> so feel free to assign to me for round 1

 13:43 <willcooke> kk

 13:43 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 13:44 <seb128> I hope it doesn't hope going back Marco's way :p

 13:44 * seb128 hugs Trevinho

 13:44 <Laney> bet not

 13:44 <willcooke> seb128, I was going to say - we should spend some time doing an "unassigned" review and seeing if we can trim the old rls bugs list.  Lets try and do that tomorrow?

 13:44 <Laney> bet it's something in the startup sequence rather than shell itself

 13:45 <Laney> just my guess, happy to put 10€ on it though

 13:45 <seb128> lol

 13:45 <willcooke> XDDDD

 13:45 <seb128> I'm not betting, made enough profit for the month :p

 13:45 <willcooke> :D

 13:45 <willcooke> #topic AOB

 13:45 <seb128> willcooke, +1 on cleaning rls

 13:45 <willcooke> Anyone got anything

 13:45 <willcooke> for AOB

 13:45 <seb128> we should review now the targetted/unassigned list

 13:45 <Laney> HAHA

 13:45 <seb128> since those are +1/-1 things

 13:45 <seb128> also proposedmigration

 13:46 <willcooke> seb128, you want to do the targetted ones in the meeting?

 13:46 <seb128> yes, we discussed that previous time and agreed it was the right to do iirc

 13:46 <jibel> AOB. I'd like to escalate bug 1840122. It's breaking automated tests and make iso testing a real PITA

 13:47 <ubot5> bug 1840122 in linux (Ubuntu Eoan) "System fails to reboot from live session or ubiquity-dm - squashfs_read_data failed to read block" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1840122

 13:47 <seb128> it's basically the same as the incoming ones

 13:47 <Laney> you two mean different things by the word targetting

 13:47 <Laney> targetted*

 13:47 <seb128> I mean http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 13:47 <seb128> &co

 13:47 <seb128> for unassigned entries

 13:48 <willcooke> jibel, I will escalate that one one

 13:48 <willcooke> seb128, oki, let's do it

 13:48 <jibel> thx

 13:48 <willcooke> #topic unassigned rls bugs

 13:49 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1731459

 13:49 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1731459 in sane-backends (Debian) "genesys_gl847 scanners produce a black band in scanned images on Ubuntu 17.10+, 18.04 LTS and 18.10 Cosmic cuttlefish" [Unknown,Confirmed]

 13:50 <willcooke> GunnarHj, are you looking at that one for Bionic still?  ^

 13:50 <seb128> it that's fix commited we can skip those

 13:50 <willcooke> ah yeah

 13:50 <seb128> looks like there is none on the bionic list

 13:50 <willcooke> eyah

 13:51 <seb128> one one disco list

 13:51 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bug/1842904

 13:51 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1842904 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (Ubuntu Disco) "New upstream release 19.01.4" [Undecided,New]

 13:52 <willcooke> assign duflu and see if he wants to push through the SRU?

 13:52 <seb128> I would delete the disco line

 13:52 <seb128> we got no user report and it's almost 19.10 time

 13:52 <willcooke> that works

 13:53 <seb128> duflu can still targetting it back with a sponsoring request if he wants

 13:53 <willcooke> ee is clear

 13:53 <willcooke> #topic proposed migrations

 13:54 <willcooke> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 13:54 <willcooke> Anything in that list cause for concern>

 13:54 <willcooke> ?

 13:55 <Laney> promote those libcairo-gobject-perl ones

 13:55 <Laney> the others are in hand

 13:55 <Laney> ... well I'm wondering why g-i is foundations ...

 13:56 <seb128> p_itti's heritage? ;-)

 13:56 <willcooke> should we move it to us

 13:56 <willcooke> >

 13:56 <willcooke> ?

 13:56 <seb128> it would probably reflect better reality

 13:56 <Laney> maybe they want to fix ruby-gnome

 13:56 <seb128> I looked a bit at this one yesterday btw and opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-gnome/+bug/1845008

 13:56 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1845008 in ruby-gnome (Ubuntu) "The autopkgtests are failing with glib 2.61+" [High,New]

 13:56 <Laney> that's the only reason I just noticed

 13:57 <Laney> yeah

 13:57 <willcooke> k, I will ask Pat when I speak to her about #1840122

 13:57 <Laney> don't really understand it well enough to fix it atm

 13:57 <Laney> but the status is real there, new g-i does break that

 13:57 <Laney> guess I could own it, might work on that later in the week

 13:58 <willcooke> thanks Laney

 13:58 <Laney> that is it

 13:58 <willcooke> #topic AOB2

 13:58 <marcustomlinson> AOB2?

 13:58 <Laney> AAOOBB

 13:58 <didrocks> better than AOB1, obviously

 13:59 <marcustomlinson> haha

 13:59 <willcooke> I was too eager last time

 13:59 <willcooke> AOB2.0 serverless

 13:59 <willcooke> anyone got anything?

 13:59 <willcooke> in 5....

 13:59 <willcooke> 4...

 13:59 <willcooke> 3..

 14:00 <willcooke> 2.

 14:00 <willcooke> 1

 14:00 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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