== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Meeting 2019-09-10, 10 Sep at 13:30 — 13:58 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-09-10-13.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== rls-bb ===
The discussion about "rls-bb" started at 13:32.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-dd ===
The discussion about "rls-dd" started at 13:34.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-ee ===
The discussion about "rls-ee" started at 13:34.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/duplicity/+bug/1440372 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bug/1842910 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yaru-theme/+bug/1842898 

=== Unassigned bugs ===
The discussion about "Unassigned bugs" started at 13:41.


=== update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages ===
The discussion about "update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages" started at 13:42.


=== unassigned bugs ===
The discussion about "unassigned bugs" started at 13:45.

  * ''LINK:'' https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/release-bugs-for-week-commencing-monday-9th-september/12500 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1727908 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/poppler-data/+bug/1828884 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/firefox/+bug/1834671 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/gucharmap/+bug/1838321 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+source/xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu/+bug/1833617 

=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 13:55.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (59)
 * seb128 (42)
 * Laney (20)
 * ubot5 (8)
 * xnox (5)
 * kenvandine (3)
 * meetingology (3)
 * didrocks (1)
 * cyphermox (1)
 * tseliot (1)
 * marcustomlinson (1)
 * tjaalton (1)



== Full Log ==


 13:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting 2019-09-10

 13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 10 13:30:00 2019 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 13:30 <meetingology> 

 13:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 13:30 <willcooke> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN(out), seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 13:30 <marcustomlinson> hi

 13:30 <didrocks> hey

 13:30 <seb128> _o/

 13:30 <kenvandine> o|

 13:31 <Laney> peace

 13:31 <seb128> jamesh, weekly update post? ;)

 13:32 <willcooke> #topic rls-bb

 13:32 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:32 <willcooke> Curious that this hasn't shown up before, or at least I don't remember seeing it before

 13:33 <willcooke> Looks like it could be a good fix for B to me

 13:33 <seb128> probably one to assign to Marco, looks like he was looking at it/provided some test package to d_oko?

 13:33 <willcooke> yeah

 13:34 <willcooke> done

 13:34 <tseliot> o/

 13:34 <willcooke> #topic rls-dd

 13:34 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:34 <willcooke> Clear

 13:34 <willcooke> #topic rls-ee

 13:34 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:35 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/duplicity/+bug/1440372

 13:35 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1440372 in duplicity (Ubuntu Eoan) "please port duplicity to Python3" [High,New]

 13:35 <seb128> that got boggusly reopened

 13:35 <seb128> I'm putting back as fix commited

 13:35 <willcooke> oki, thanks seb128

 13:35 <seb128> also it's assigned

 13:35 <willcooke> ah yes

 13:35 <seb128> (untagging as well)

 13:36 <willcooke> I just untagged

 13:36 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bug/1842910

 13:36 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1842910 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (Ubuntu) "Desktop right click menu appears in the wrong place if a Terminal window is open" [Medium,New]

 13:36 <Laney> that should be taken

 13:37 <willcooke> +1

 13:37 <willcooke> seb128, one for Trevinho?

 13:37 <seb128> assign to duflu I would say

 13:37 <Laney> poor Marco gets almost all of the bugs

 13:37 <seb128> since he reported and probably is able to poke

 13:37 <Laney> someone else would be better indeed

 13:38 <willcooke> done

 13:38 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yaru-theme/+bug/1842898

 13:38 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1842898 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu) "Scroll bar in the focussed Terminal window is almost invisible" [Medium,Triaged]

 13:39 <willcooke> looks like its fixed upstream so needs a new release

 13:40 <seb128> also probably not worth rls targetting?

 13:40 <Laney> right, we'll get another yaru soon

 13:40 <Laney> I wouldn't say that was release critical anyway

 13:40 <willcooke> done

 13:41 <willcooke> #topic Unassigned bugs

 13:41 <willcooke> seb128 shall we go through those offline?

 13:41 <willcooke> (those = unassigned)

 13:41 <seb128> +1

 13:41 <willcooke> Laney, anything on your list this week?

 13:42 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 13:42 <seb128> bah, bot doesn't like me :p

 13:42 <kenvandine> poor seb128

 13:42 <seb128> :)

 13:42 <willcooke> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 13:42 <willcooke> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 13:42 <Laney> why not the unassigned bugs?

 13:42 <Laney> well anyway

 13:42 <Laney> there are two things on there, tracker-miners which Trevinho is/was/should be looking into

 13:42 <Laney> and duplicity which seb128 is?

 13:43 <Laney> so I think we are ok

 13:43 <willcooke> thanks Laney

 13:43 <seb128> we said some meetings ago that asking for volunteers here didn't really work and that we would rather review/assign in the manager meeting

 13:43 <seb128> but people could step in and assign themself before that meeting if they wish

 13:43 <seb128> iirc

 13:43 <Laney> volunteers?

 13:43 <seb128> well if you want to assign yourself to one of the unassigned rls bugs please do :)

 13:43 <Laney> that was for the excuses tracking

 13:44 <Laney> hang on this is a misunderstanding

 13:44 <Laney> the unassigned rls bugs we should be reviewing as if they were -incoming ones

 13:44 <Laney> this is only because people randomly target bugs

 13:44 <xnox> cyphermox:  hmmm i see

 13:44 <xnox> cyphermox:  well let me reboot into my patched plymouth

 13:44 <xnox> and check how it feels

 13:44 <seb128> right, sorry I got confused

 13:45 <seb128> willcooke, let's do that round now, we do the proposed migrations assignement later

 13:45 <willcooke> oki

 13:45 <Laney> there's no proposed-migration anyway

 13:45 <willcooke> #topic unassigned bugs

 13:45 <willcooke> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/release-bugs-for-week-commencing-monday-9th-september/12500

 13:45 <seb128> Laney, thanks for bringing us back on rail, I'm clearing not fully back from holidays yet :)

 13:45 <cyphermox> xnox: meeting in progress, let's talk later

 13:45 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1727908

 13:45 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1727908 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Software & Updates application does not permit changes on the "Other Software" tab" [High,Confirmed]

 13:46 <willcooke> seb128, do you want to take the g-s portion of that one too?

 13:46 <seb128> looks like you guys decided I was the right assignee while I was away

 13:46 <seb128> I guess

 13:46 <willcooke> :)

 13:47 <willcooke> thanks

 13:47 <seb128> it's likely I will reassign because it sounds like a gnome-shell issue and I doubt I will be the right person to understand that code

 13:47 <willcooke> oki

 13:47 <seb128> but I will do the initial poking and reassign if needed

 13:47 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/poppler-data/+bug/1828884

 13:47 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1828884 in poppler-data (Ubuntu Disco) "[META] Handling Japanese new era "令和 (Reiwa)"" [Undecided,New]

 13:48 <willcooke> poppler-data

 13:48 <seb128> we said we would just delete the targetted entries on that bug no?

 13:48 <willcooke> couldn't remember on that one, we skipped it last week

 13:48 <seb128> if there is specific work needed a new bug should be opened with the details for that package

 13:48 <Laney> yeah, do it

 13:49 <Laney> or notfixing, but not sure if that will override the targetting

 13:49 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/firefox/+bug/1834671

 13:49 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1834671 in firefox (Ubuntu Eoan) "TLSv1.3 client certificate authentication with renegotiation unsupported in browsers" [Undecided,New]

 13:50 <seb128> assign the bionic line to Olivier as well

 13:50 <willcooke> done

 13:50 <seb128> thx

 13:50 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/gucharmap/+bug/1838321

 13:50 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1838321 in gucharmap (Ubuntu Disco) "Support Japanese new era "令和 (Reiwa)"" [Medium,New]

 13:51 <seb128> same deal imho

 13:51 <seb128> that the poppler-data one

 13:52 <willcooke> you think we should just remove the target?

 13:52 <willcooke> targets

 13:52 <seb128> yes

 13:53 <willcooke> done

 13:53 <seb128> those bugs collecting items without specifics are not actionable imho

 13:53 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+source/xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu/+bug/1833617

 13:53 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1833617 in xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu (Ubuntu Disco) "[amdgpu] screen freeze after suspend" [Undecided,New]

 13:53 <seb128> better to open a bug on the package with the specific work needed once that's identified

 13:53 <willcooke> seb128, good plan, thx

 13:53 <xnox> cyphermox:  Laney: seb128: willcooke: new plymouth uploaded, it looks pixel perfect / flicker-less between plymouth to gnome-shell to me.

 13:54 <seb128> xnox, great, thx!

 13:54 <willcooke> xnox, thx!

 13:54 <Laney> nice

 13:54 <xnox> need to submit upstream patches yada yada

 13:54 <seb128> willcooke, that amd one, we should ask tjaalton

 13:55 <willcooke> I'll follow up with him after this

 13:55 <seb128> xnox, yes please, also best done the other way around, upstream first so you can add proper tagging/references to the patch :)

 13:55 <willcooke> then that's the end of the list

 13:55 <willcooke> very good!

 13:55 <willcooke> #topic AOB

 13:56 <willcooke> I dont have anything

 13:56 <tjaalton> seb128: marked invalid

 13:57 <seb128> tjaalton, thx

 13:57 <seb128> willcooke, nothing for next week?

 13:57 <seb128> or handling that via email later?

 13:57 <willcooke> seb128, I'll talk more in our managers meeting.  I have a slide deck for everyone to enjoy.

 13:57 <kenvandine> :)

 13:58 <seb128> lol

 13:58 <willcooke> :)

 13:58 <seb128> sounds like we can wrap then :)

 13:58 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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