== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-07-16, 16 Jul at 13:32 — 13:57 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-07-16-13.32.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== rls-bb-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-bb-bugs" started at 13:34.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-dd-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-dd-bugs" started at 13:35.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-ee-incoming ===
The discussion about "rls-ee-incoming" started at 13:36.


=== rls-ee-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-ee-bugs" started at 13:36.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages ===
The discussion about "update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages" started at 13:39.

  * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 

=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 13:44.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * seb128 (62)
 * Laney (19)
 * didrocks (9)
 * tkamppeter (8)
 * kenvandine (7)
 * meetingology (3)
 * oSoMoN (2)
 * Trevinho (2)
 * marcustomlinson (1)



== Full Log ==


 13:32 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-07-16

 13:32 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 16 13:32:34 2019 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 13:32 <meetingology> 

 13:32 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 13:32 <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 13:32 <oSoMoN> 😎/

 13:32 <didrocks> hey

 13:32 <kenvandine> \o

 13:33 <Trevinho> 🌴

 13:33 <marcustomlinson> 🕺🏻

 13:33 <oSoMoN> is that a disco guy lifting a palmtree?

 13:34 <seb128> lol

 13:34 <seb128> ok, let's get started

 13:34 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs

 13:34 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:34 <seb128> nothing

 13:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 13:35 <seb128> kenvandine, can you remind Robert to assign himself to bugs he nominates like that snapd-glib one?

 13:35 <kenvandine> yes

 13:35 <seb128> thx

 13:35 <seb128> not review cc anymore at this point

 13:35 <seb128> #topic rls-dd-bugs

 13:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:35 <seb128> nothing

 13:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 13:36 <seb128> same snapd-glib one

 13:36 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-incoming

 13:36 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs

 13:36 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:36 <seb128> the gconf is actually being handled on the dpkg side

 13:37 <seb128> gconf itself imho is not rls material (though wouldn't hurt to upload it if someone wants to do that)

 13:37 <seb128> other opinions?

 13:38 <seb128> seems not

 13:38 <didrocks> (no real opinion, seems popular, but we don't seed it for quite a long time, unsure how many installs are old without this cleanup)

 13:38 <Laney> ok with not fixing it in gconf

 13:38 <seb128> thx didrocks Laney :)

 13:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 13:39 <seb128> nothing unassigned there

 13:39 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 13:39 <seb128> Laney, your turn!

 13:39 <Laney> yeah sorry I haven't quite made cards yet

 13:39 <Laney> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 13:39 <Laney> one thing that needs to be done is lmdb promoted, that MIR is finished now

 13:40 <seb128> I'm never clear there is MIR team should give a final/ack do it or if any archive admin can do it

 13:40 <didrocks> depends on the last comment, I tend to say on mine "ack when security team gives its +1"

 13:40 <seb128> I guess I will do it since they don't seem to be picking it up

 13:41 <Laney> depends on the status I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MIRTeam#Process_states

 13:41 <seb128> didrocks, oh, you are MIR team ... want to do it? so no discussion of MIR or not :)

 13:42 <seb128> I'm not wanting to enter another argument with doko atm

 13:42 <didrocks> seb128: I'm fine having a look later this week

 13:42 <Laney> they have an MIR meeting at the same time as this one

 13:42 <Laney> go ping in there right now

 13:42 <didrocks> actually, before

 13:42 <didrocks> like finished 10 minutes ago

 13:42 <seb128> didrocks, it should be a matter of just doing the promotion command

 13:42 <didrocks> (when they happens)

 13:42 <Laney> oh right, they don't use #endmeeting

 13:42 <seb128> but alright

 13:42 <seb128> other topics?

 13:42 <Laney> yes ok

 13:43 <didrocks> seb128: well, I need to read the comments first :p

 13:43 <seb128> didrocks, (oh, and thanks ;)

 13:43 <Laney> I think there's going to be some cards this time

 13:43 <didrocks> yw

 13:43 <Laney> pls assign them tomorrow in that other meeting

 13:43 <seb128> k

 13:43 <Laney> and Trevinho, mutter looks like it fails tests on armhf/arm64, can you look at that pls?

 13:43 <Trevinho> Laney: ok

 13:44 <Laney> did get mail about that but I forgot until now

 13:44 <Laney> good checkpoint :-)

 13:44 <Laney> thanks!

 13:44 <Laney> k end

 13:44 <seb128> thx Laney

 13:44 <seb128> #topic AOB

 13:44 <seb128> k, let me start this one by asking Till for status update of nm autopkgtests and bionic SRU

 13:45 <seb128> tkamppeter, ^ can you give us an update of where we stand on those? they have been ongoing for several weeks now, is there any blocker you need help with?

 13:47 <tkamppeter> On the Bionic SRU I did not get any further cooperation of users. For me it even looks like that regression cases are low, and the few complaints are from users with very special cases.

 13:48 <tkamppeter> Especially I get also that impression as there are not any more bug reports.

 13:48 <seb128> so what do you recommend we do to unblock the situation/move forward?

 13:48 <seb128> well, the SRU got reverted

 13:48 <seb128> that would stop the reports

 13:48 <tkamppeter> Probably we should try to get this version to some more users.

 13:49 <seb128> can you talk to the SRU team about it?

 13:49 <tkamppeter> I will do.

 13:49 <seb128> thx

 13:49 <seb128> any other topic?

 13:50 <Laney> about the tests in eoan?

 13:50 <Laney> any update+ sorry

 13:50 <kenvandine> tkamppeter: how about the autopkgtests?

 13:50 <Laney> you can see on https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages that it's blocking a bunch of stuff

 13:50 <tkamppeter> In the autopkg tests there are no tests which I can reproduce all the times. Any failure happens only sometimes, leading to the impression that there is something going too slow.

 13:50 <kenvandine> i saw you updated the MP

 13:51 <seb128> even failing sometime is a problem/needs to be fixed

 13:51 <kenvandine> yes

 13:52 <tkamppeter> I also had some talk with Seth Forshee and he told that there are many failures since switchover to kernel 5.2.x but also not always the same failure, but frequent enough to hardly get the whole test suite pass.

 13:52 <seb128> we need to get on top of those issues

 13:52 <seb128> including 5.2 problems

 13:52 <tkamppeter> He has released 5.2.x into Eoan now and I have updated my VM.

 13:52 <seb128> we can't keep delaying week after week

 13:53 <seb128> k

 13:53 <seb128> hopefully you get a clue about those by the next meeting then!

 13:53 <seb128> 

 13:53 <tkamppeter> I have now seen that the case of the emulated AP not coming up disappeared, but on the Ethernet tests I see more failures.

 13:53 <seb128> other topics?

 13:55 <kenvandine> seth filed a bug on the 5.2 issue, linked on the status report

 13:55 <seb128> kenvandine, tkamppeter, can we make investigating that a topic priority for this week?

 13:56 <seb128> topic->top

 13:56 <kenvandine> that should be tkamppeter's top priority already

 13:56 <seb128> k, good

 13:56 <seb128> alright, no other topic?

 13:56 <seb128> 30s

 13:57 <seb128> k, it's a wrap then, thanks team!

 13:57 <seb128> #endmeeting



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