13:32 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-06-11
13:32 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 11 13:32:43 2019 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:33 <Laney> s/the hub/discourse/ 🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊
13:33 <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
13:33 <marcustomlinson> \o
13:33 <oSoMoN> o/
13:34 <kenvandine> o/
13:35 <seb128> ok, let's get started
13:35 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs
13:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:35 <seb128> empty
13:36 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:37 <seb128> out of the ones we already discussed previous week and that still need sorting out
13:37 <seb128> bug #1786344
13:37 <ubot5> bug 1786344 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Default IBus input method ignored in live session" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786344
13:37 <seb128> Gunnar nominated this one
13:37 <seb128> I don't think it has enough heat to be rls tracked
13:38 <seb128> I suggest assigning to Gunnar and deleting the bionic specific target
13:38 <seb128> he can still pursue the SRUing
13:38 <marcustomlinson> 👍🏻
13:39 <seb128> k, next
13:39 <seb128> bug #
13:39 <seb128> bug #1734887
13:39 <ubot5> bug 1734887 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Cosmic) "No caps lock indicator on login screen" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1734887
13:40 <seb128> Trevinho, ^ do you think that is going to land in 3.30 serie?
13:40 <Trevinho> let me see
13:41 <Laney> does that affect whether we consider it rls?
13:42 <seb128> I don't know
13:42 <Trevinho> I think we can propose a cherry pick in case.
13:42 <seb128> hum, /me ponders
13:42 * Laney thinks not
13:42 <Laney> either we want to fix it or we don't
13:42 <seb128> right
13:42 <Trevinho> indeed if we consider important we can still do ourself
13:42 <seb128> I think it would be nice to fix
13:42 <seb128> but probably not important enough to be rls targetted
13:43 <Trevinho> a list of nice to have if upstream agrees let's say
13:43 <seb128> k, let's untarget it?
13:43 <Laney> yes
13:43 <seb128> thx
13:43 <Laney> dunno why duflu is still doing that, did someone have a word?
13:43 <Trevinho> I prepare the cherry pick anyways we'll see if it lands
13:44 <seb128> I mentioned it to him, will do again
13:44 <Laney> thx
13:44 <seb128> that's it for bionic
13:44 <seb128> #topic rls-cc-bugs
13:45 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:45 <seb128> no desktop entry
13:45 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:45 <seb128> nothing to discuss, still the era thing unsorted and that capslock one
13:45 <seb128> #topic rls-dd-bugs
13:45 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:45 <seb128> no desktop entry
13:46 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:46 <seb128> same, nothing new
13:46 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs
13:46 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:47 <seb128> the cups one was discussed previous week but I had forgotten to edit post meeting, done now
13:47 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:47 <seb128> nothing unassigned there
13:47 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
13:47 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
13:48 <seb128> tkamppeter, kenvandine, what's the status of sorting out the n-m autopkgtest regression post removal of those deprecated libs?
13:49 <kenvandine> I'll check with Till, he's out today
13:49 <seb128> thx
13:50 <seb128> oSoMoN, the libreoffice one is something on your list?
13:50 <Laney> I made a card for it
13:50 <Laney> maybe check there first if you're going to be leading this section?
13:50 <oSoMoN> there's this one test that's become flaky in eoan, it needs investigating
13:50 <seb128> k
13:50 <oSoMoN> in the meantime I’ve triggered a new test run
13:50 <seb128> Laney, sorry, I didn't intend to "lead", I just though it would be the same as previous week so I asked directly about the n-m status
13:51 <seb128> then there was 1 left, it seemed pointless to ask you to ask about that one only
13:51 <seb128> thx for making the card, I try to be aware/handle that part better next time
13:51 <Laney> ok, well I usually make the cards around meeting time, for reference
13:51 <Laney> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libr/libreoffice/eoan/s390x
13:51 <seb128> noted
13:51 <Laney> that doesn't obviously say "flaky" to me by the way
13:52 <Laney> more like new openjdk-lts might have impacted it
13:52 <Laney> maybe we get lucky though
13:52 <seb128> doookoooo
13:52 <seb128> :p
13:52 <seb128> but yeah, needs investigating
13:52 <oSoMoN> Laney, look at older failures
13:52 <seb128> thx oSoMoN Laney
13:52 <xnox> seb128:  or like tdaitx  ;-)
13:52 <Laney> I mean I see a few crosses
13:52 <Laney> what do you mean?
13:52 <Laney> anyway, if it's flaky...
13:52 <Laney> ....
13:53 <Laney> it shouldn't be
13:53 <oSoMoN> indeed
13:53 <oSoMoN> I'm filing a bug to not forget about it
13:53 <Laney> cool
13:53 <marcustomlinson> :)
13:54 <Laney> there's a card too, such tracking
13:54 <seb128> good, that's it for that section then
13:54 <seb128> #topic AOB
13:54 <seb128> other topics?
13:54 <didrocks> if a kind AA (not me) from ubuntu-desktop team could review grubzfs-testsuite, that would be awesome :)
13:54 <didrocks> (ok, there is just one candidate matching that description :p)
13:55 <Laney> kind?!?!?!?
13:55 <didrocks> ahah
13:55 <Laney> 😈
13:55 * Laney slaps self
13:55 <seb128> lol
13:55 * seb128 gets the hint
13:56 <seb128> didrocks, will do
13:56 <didrocks> thx ;)
13:56 <seb128> other topics? ;)
13:56 <Laney> network-manager on bionic, gnome-shell on disco
13:56 <Laney> are those well handled (particularly the first one) or do people need help?
13:56 <Trevinho> should we organize for guadec?
13:56 <Trevinho> g-s is fine
13:57 <seb128> kenvandine, can you speak about n-m/bionic since Till is out? what's the status of unblocking that one?
13:58 <Laney> Trevinho: false positive or you have a fix or what?
13:58 <Trevinho> Laney: I've already submitted a fix for that
13:58 * Laney is getting daily spam emails from Brian
13:59 <Trevinho> merged to master, 3.30 is a bit different diff so done other pick
13:59 <seb128> Trevinho, we need another upload with the fix then?
13:59 <Laney> 3.32 branch?
13:59 <Trevinho> might be the case to do our patching only
13:59 <Trevinho> yeah sorry
14:00 <Laney> go bug for reviews, if no luck we can distro patch
14:00 <Laney> imho
14:00 <Trevinho> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/607/
14:00 <kenvandine> seb128: last week Till verified the split DNS issue was fixed with the systemd update in bionic
14:01 <Trevinho> if you want to help with reviews...
14:01 <seb128> kenvandine, that's the systemd part but doesn't address the n-m regressions that leaded to have -updates reverted, right?
14:02 <Laney> Trevinho: thx
14:02 <kenvandine> i think he's still trying to understand the regression
14:03 <seb128> k
14:03 <seb128> but yeah, it feels like we don't have a good handle on this one
14:03 <Trevinho> seb128: so to answer, yes. although IMHO is quite low priority
14:03 <seb128> unsure how we can unblock it
14:03 <Trevinho> is something happening on shutdown
14:03 <Laney> it's blocking the SRU from being offered to people
14:03 <seb128> Trevinho, well, "low priority", our current SRU is blocked from reaching users until that's sorted out
14:04 <Trevinho> or reload... which would be anyways covered by session
14:04 <Trevinho> sure, sure... I'm saying from the bug point of view. indeed I fixed it promptly because of that...
14:04 <seb128> if you believe that's a non issue for users and should be unflagged please talk to Brian about it asking him to do that
14:05 <Laney> I'll go ping in #gnome-shell if Marco is too shy :-)
14:05 <seb128> thx!
14:05 <Trevinho> I am :-)
14:05 <seb128> k, that should be it for now on those I guess
14:05 <seb128> other topics?
14:06 <seb128> 30 seconds
14:06 <Trevinho> as for guadec?
14:06 <Laney> seems like an internal one
14:06 <seb128> yeah
14:07 <seb128> but you are right, let me try to get that ball rolling
14:07 <Laney> cool
14:07 <seb128> but we don't need the team for it, so let's wrap
14:07 <Trevinho> we can address it  internally indeed.... just as a reminder ;-)
14:07 <seb128> #endmeeting