13:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-06-04
13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun  4 13:30:31 2019 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:30 <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
13:30 <marcustomlinson> \o
13:31 <kenvandine> o/
13:31 <Trevinho> o/
13:31 <oSoMoN> \o
13:31 <seb128> k, let's get started!
13:31 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs
13:31 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:32 <seb128> bug #1825297
13:32 <ubot5> bug 1825297 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "When OSK is present, typing on physical keyboard usually dose not trigger the OSK to disappear (X11 only)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825297
13:33 <seb128> that has been raised as an issue by the oem team for enablement of laptop with touch screen
13:33 <Trevinho> I can have a look
13:33 <seb128> I vote +1 for accepting it since it's an oem request and it makes sense imho
13:33 <tseliot> o/
13:33 <seb128> hey tseliot :)
13:33 <tseliot> hey
13:33 <seb128> Trevinho, thx!
13:33 <Trevinho> might be not easy fix in x11 though
13:33 <Laney> why do we vote on oem requests if there is that policy?
13:34 <seb128> what policy?
13:34 <Laney> that oem requests get a +1
13:34 <seb128> I don't know about that rule
13:34 <seb128> I would feel fine rejecting a request that looks buggy/stupid
13:34 <Laney> ok, then I don't understand what "since it's an oem request" means
13:34 <seb128> well, I like the please OEM
13:34 <seb128> so I would lean toward accepting it if we can
13:34 <seb128> and the fix looks like an useful thing to work on
13:35 <seb128> so it's +1 from me
13:35 <didrocks> I think it's a logical request, +1
13:35 <seb128> k, good, accepting and assigning to Marco then :)
13:35 <kenvandine> yeah, +1
13:35 <seb128> next
13:36 <seb128> bug #1825299
13:36 <ubot5> bug 1825299 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "The onscreen keyboard doesn't hide when touching anywhere out of the onscreen keyboard" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825299
13:36 <seb128> similar situation, I vote +1 for the same reasons
13:36 <Trevinho> Not sure is possible at all for xorg
13:37 <Trevinho> Might be, but not in all the cases.
13:37 <seb128> yeah, I was also reading the upstream comments
13:37 <seb128> a bit tricky
13:37 <Trevinho> I have ideas though
13:37 <didrocks> same, +1, but sounds hard
13:37 <seb128> Trevinho, I assign to you for a look, if we judge it not doable we can wontfix with an application, ok?
13:38 <Trevinho> We should have #nicetofix list ;-)
13:38 <Trevinho> Ok
13:39 <seb128> we have, it's open bugs on launchpad :p
13:39 <seb128> or assigned but not milestoned
13:39 <seb128> k, that's it for the incoming list
13:40 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:40 <seb128> that has the same japense era than previous week, I pinged c_yphermox about it but didn't get a reply, I will try that again
13:41 <seb128> that's it
13:41 <seb128> #topic rls-cc-bugs
13:41 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:41 <seb128> no desktop entry
13:41 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:42 <seb128> same japenese one
13:42 <seb128> bug #1754671
13:42 <ubot5> bug 1754671 in network-manager (Ubuntu Bionic) "Full-tunnel VPN DNS leakage regression" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754671
13:42 <seb128> I vote to wontfix it for cosmic n-m at this point, we are not going to SRU n-m changes on cosmic now imho
13:43 <oSoMoN> that makes sense
13:44 <seb128> doing that
13:44 <seb128> also reassigning to bionic line to tkamppeter
13:44 <oSoMoN> thanks
13:44 <seb128> bug #1828102
13:44 <ubot5> bug 1828102 in modemmanager (Ubuntu Disco) "Regression in ModemManager" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828102
13:45 <seb128> looks like it's already being handled by tkamppeter
13:45 <seb128> kenvandine, ^ he might need a sponsor?
13:45 <seb128> assigning to him
13:45 <kenvandine> ok
13:45 <seb128> thx
13:45 <seb128> #topic rls-dd-bugs
13:46 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:46 <seb128> no desktop entry
13:47 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:47 <seb128> same bugs as other series
13:47 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs
13:47 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:47 <seb128> the 2 gnome-shell/osk ones already discussed
13:47 <seb128> bug #1830022
13:47 <ubot5> bug 1830022 in cups (Ubuntu) "DirtyCleanInterval should be 0 by default" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1830022
13:48 <seb128> that's assigned and being handled but doesn't seem rls material to me
13:48 <seb128> I vote -1
13:49 <didrocks> unsure about that one, Till will probably will have a better opinion
13:50 <seb128> bug #1831021
13:50 <ubot5> bug 1831021 in cups (Ubuntu) "Extremely high memory consumption under heavy workload" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1831021
13:50 <seb128> same, sounds like it's worth looking at but not important enough to be rls material
13:50 <seb128> it's impact pretty uncommon setups
13:50 <seb128> impacting
13:52 <seb128> k, no other comment so doing that for those
13:52 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:52 <seb128> those are all assigned
13:52 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
13:52 <Laney> Nothing.
13:52 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
13:53 <seb128> k
13:54 <seb128> well n-m regressed because the autopkgtests relied on the deprecated lib that got removed from eoan (sorry for overlooking that bit when I removed them)
13:54 <seb128> kenvandine, tkamppeter, you took from cyphermox and are looking at finishing the tests update?
13:54 <Laney> It's being worked on. That's why I said "Nothing.".
13:55 <seb128> right, I wanted to check that tkamppeter indeed took over from Mathieu since I didn't see a response from him on the topic yesterday
13:55 <seb128> anyway, doesn't need to be in the meeting I guess
13:55 <Laney> 04/06 10:39:14 <tkamppeter> cyphermox, thanks.
13:55 <seb128> thx
13:55 <cyphermox> AFAIK it's something with the callback from the gir; when trying to activate a connection
13:55 <seb128> #topic AOB
13:55 <seb128> other topics?
13:55 <seb128> cyphermox, k
13:55 <seb128> tkamppeter, ^
13:55 <Laney> Those OSK bugs weren't targetted properly.
13:56 <seb128> yeah, launchpad timeouted when I tried on the first one so I kept them to try again after the meeting
13:56 <seb128> if it works now/you did it, thx :)
13:56 <Laney> I did not
13:57 <seb128> k, well I will once the meeting is over (if launchpad stop being sad), thx for pointing it out
13:57 <Laney> Right.
13:58 <seb128> k
13:58 <seb128> anything else?
13:58 <seb128> 30 seconds to raise your hand
13:58 <kenvandine> notta :)
13:59 <seb128> k, let's wrap then
13:59 <seb128> thanks everyone!
13:59 <seb128> #endmeeting