14:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting 2019-02-12 14:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb 12 14:30:28 2019 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:30 <meetingology> 14:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:30 <seb128> Roll call: andyrock, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 14:30 <andyrock> o/ 14:30 <didrocks> hey hey o/ 14:31 <tseliot> o/ 14:31 <kenvandine> \o 14:31 <Trevinho> helloo 14:31 <oSoMoN> 👽/ 14:31 <seb128> tseliot, tjaalton, sorry, I copied the list from previous week and seems that didn't include you 14:31 <seb128> k, look like we have most of the team, let's get started 14:32 <seb128> #topic rls bugs 14:32 <seb128> the incoming lists 14:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:33 <seb128> bb has no desktop entry (also good to see that page small, is that a bug or a result of foundations finally dealing with their tagged bugs?) 14:33 <seb128> cc has no desktop entry 14:33 <Trevinho> I think bug 1772811 is already targetted 14:34 <ubot5> bug 1772811 in OEM Priority Project "different behaviors for switch display mode between xenial and bionic" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1772811 14:34 <seb128> that's the disco one 14:34 <seb128> Trevinho, can you assign it to yourself? 14:34 <andyrock> it's because it's not assigned in mutter 14:35 <seb128> right 14:35 <Trevinho> ok 14:35 <seb128> easy to fix, thx Marco 14:35 <seb128> tracking lists 14:36 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:36 <seb128> so same one we just discussed 14:36 <seb128> bug #1767660 14:36 <ubot5> bug 1767660 in libinput (Ubuntu Bionic) "Regression 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS: Contour Design RollerMouse double click button no longer results in a double click event" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767660 14:37 <seb128> tjaalton, ^ opinion on that one? 14:38 <seb128> to be it doesn't seem important enough to use team tracking 14:38 <seb128> it doesn't prevent people to work on it/SRU 14:38 <seb128> I vote -wontfix 14:38 <seb128> other opinions? 14:38 <seb128> -notfixing I mean 14:39 <Laney> sure, don't know if that works for accepted bugs though, might have to won't fix the task 14:39 <seb128> right, that's a bit annoying 14:39 <seb128> do we still have that launchpad bug that if I delete the bionic line we can't add it back ever? 14:40 <jbicha> you can add it back 14:40 <Laney> dunno 14:40 <seb128> k, let me delete the line then and tag 14:40 <Laney> no opinion on whether that's better or worse than closing the bug task 14:40 <Laney> seems you prefer that, so fine 14:41 <jbicha> it's annoying that LP doesn't show fixed bugs in search results by default so it makes it tough for people to find bugs that still affect them on the LTS release 14:41 <seb128> bug #1777994 14:42 <ubot5> bug 1777994 in libxcb (Ubuntu Bionic) "the header xcb/xinput.h is missing" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1777994 14:42 <seb128> that one has been uploaded apparently, so setting fix commited 14:42 <seb128> bug #1799614 14:42 <ubot5> bug 1799614 in snapd-glib (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Use new media API" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1799614 14:42 <seb128> assigning that one to Robert 14:43 <seb128> that's it for bionic 14:43 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:43 <seb128> that has the same snapd-glib one for Robert and that's it 14:43 <kenvandine> seb128: robert knows about that and said he would ask about it. 14:44 <seb128> kenvandine, he should assign himself targetted bugs so they don't end up having to be reviewed 14:44 <kenvandine> snapd has an exception and this is to track snapd changes 14:44 <kenvandine> yeah 14:44 <seb128> thx 14:44 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:45 <seb128> that has bug #1772811 which we already discussed 14:45 <ubot5> bug 1772811 in OEM Priority Project "different behaviors for switch display mode between xenial and bionic" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1772811 14:45 <seb128> and that's it 14:45 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:45 <seb128> Laney, your turn :) 14:45 <Laney> k 14:45 <talx> hello folks, any preseeding guru here ? 14:46 <Laney> The following packages have unmet dependencies. 14:46 <Laney> emacs-common : Breaks: edb (< 1.32) but 1.31-3 is to be installed 14:46 <Laney> good old emacs 14:46 <seb128> talx, hey, we are in the middle of our weekly team meeting, please stand by 10 min or so (or use #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-installer) 14:46 <seb128> I can have a look to emacs/edb 14:47 <talx> seb128, okay would you pme if you can when its over? 14:47 <seb128> talx, sure 14:47 <Laney> there's some archive admin stuff 14:47 <Laney> gnome-control-center/gvfs 14:48 <Laney> and the others need looking at basically 14:48 <seb128> I can deal with the archive admin things 14:49 <seb128> k, let's quickly review/find owners for the other ones 14:49 <seb128> jbicha, gnome-desktop3 ftbfs, are you getting anywhere with that? 14:50 <seb128> or do you need help? 14:50 <seb128> it has been there for almost a week 14:50 <seb128> (imho dealing with breaking from existing uploads should be higher priority than stacking more updates) 14:50 <seb128> tjaalton, is the mesa/armhf ftbfs on your list? (impacts Debian as well I think) 14:51 <jbicha> seb128: gnome-desktop is a brand new test so technically not a regression 14:51 <seb128> network-manbager/ppc64el is annoying, I can try to have a look 14:51 <seb128> jbicha, regression or not it failed to build so that's not going to work 14:51 <seb128> we can't hint/skip ftbfses 14:52 <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop3/3.31.90-1ubuntu1 14:52 <tjaalton> seb128: yes, upstream knows 14:52 <jbicha> I was implying we could temporarily skip that broken test until we figure out what's going with Hebrew stuff 14:52 <seb128> tjaalton, ok, thx 14:52 <Laney> is "until" ever going to happen? 14:52 <seb128> jbicha, did you upstream that failure? 14:52 <seb128> do you need help debugging? 14:52 <seb128> let's discuss it here after the meeting 14:53 <seb128> but best to fix rather than skip 14:53 <Laney> yes, I'd like to argue with the notion that tests are OK to ignore just because they're new 14:54 <seb128> +1 14:54 <didrocks> especially if coming to cover a new feature IMHO 14:54 <seb128> k, that's consensus to not skip 14:54 <didrocks> or an experienced regression 14:54 <seb128> let's discuss it in a bit with those interested 14:55 <Laney> I'll look at udisks2 a bit, annoyed that is so bad on ppc64el 14:56 <seb128> librsvg seems like it's green on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#gobject-introspection so I guess outdated report 14:56 <seb128> thx Laney 14:56 <seb128> tracker is faiing on armhf/64 , who wants to have a look to that one? 14:57 <seb128> 'Aborted (core dumped)' 14:57 <seb128> looks like a real issue 14:57 <jbicha> seb128: gobject-introspection is very new, I think it may pass if retried 14:58 <seb128> ah, librsvg dropped now after a reload, good :p 14:58 <seb128> jbicha, that isn't on the list? 14:58 <seb128> ah, it's under foundations 14:58 <seb128> well the tracker issue on arm looks real 14:58 <Laney> I retried g-i 14:59 <seb128> hum, in fact from the history seems sometime it's ok 14:59 <seb128> thx Laney 14:59 <Laney> tracker could do with someone looking, yeah 14:59 <seb128> I can try to at least get a bt of that abort and upstream that 14:59 <Laney> could be me but maybe somebody who doesn't normally take these issues might want to look :-) 15:00 <seb128> k 15:01 * Laney coughs 15:01 <seb128> so I think we reviewed the list? 15:01 <seb128> no-one seems to want to step up for tracker :( 15:01 <seb128> maybe we need to start more direct assignements, going to discuss that with willcooke 15:01 <seb128> anyway 15:02 <Laney> team topic for next week 15:02 <seb128> #topic AOB 15:02 <didrocks> thx 15:02 <seb128> yes, good idea 15:02 <Laney> if you're not at the meeting you get to avoid those assignments 15:02 <jbicha> (tracker might just be flaky) 15:02 <seb128> flaky is something worth fixing :) 15:02 <Laney> some people are never at the meeting 15:02 <Laney> indeed 15:04 <seb128> k, 30s for AOB topics 15:05 <seb128> seems not, let's wrap then 15:05 <seb128> thanks team! 15:06 <kenvandine> thanks! 15:06 <seb128> #endmeeting