== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-01-22, 22 Jan at 14:31 — 14:59 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-01-22-14.31.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html 
''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html 
=== OB ===
The discussion about "OB" started at 14:53.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (49)
 * seb128 (22)
 * didrocks (10)
 * kenvandine (10)
 * Laney (7)
 * jbicha (7)
 * ubot5 (5)
 * meetingology (3)
 * oSoMoN (2)
 * doko (2)
 * tkamppeter (1)
 * Trevinho (1)
 * andyrock (1)



== Full Log ==


 14:31 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-01-22

 14:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 22 14:31:19 2019 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 14:31 <meetingology> 

 14:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 14:31 <andyrock> o/

 14:31 <jbicha> o/

 14:31 <oSoMoN> \o

 14:31 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (conf)

 14:31 <seb128> hey

 14:31 <Trevinho> o/

 14:32 <kenvandine> \o

 14:32 <didrocks> hey

 14:33 <willcooke> Let's start

 14:33 <willcooke> A couple of things to discuss at the end, but let's look at bugs first:

 14:33 <willcooke> bb incoming: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:34 <willcooke> One new one from today about behaviours in g-s

 14:34 <willcooke> s = Software

 14:34 <willcooke> Seems annoying, but not a rls issue IMO

 14:34 <willcooke> +1s / -1s?

 14:35 <kenvandine> willcooke: that is puzzling

 14:35 <seb128> I'm the one who tagged it but I'm neutral, it's not that important at the OS level imho but it's annoying if we want the snap experience to be great

 14:36 <kenvandine> yeah

 14:36 <seb128> if the website is a primary access to the store/snaps and clicking on it gives a buggy experience it sucks

 14:36 <didrocks> agreed

 14:36 <oSoMoN> yes

 14:36 <kenvandine> seb128: i'll take a look at it

 14:37 <seb128> thx kenvandine

 14:37 <willcooke> oki

 14:37 <willcooke> targetted and assigned

 14:38 <willcooke> BB rls tracking: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:38 <willcooke> This one I targetted by accident, so could be untargetted:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/oem-priority/+bug/1809788

 14:38 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1809788 in OEM Priority Project "bionic - TBT authentication message will be cut from the dialog box" [High,Confirmed]

 14:39 <seb128> do you know how much the oem teams cares about it?

 14:39 <willcooke> Enough to email me, but I dont know if they've been asked to fix it.  I will find outl

 14:39 <seb128> thx

 14:40 <willcooke> kenvandine, this one has sat for a while now:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1742997

 14:40 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1742997 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Newly installed applications are not showing in "Installed"" [Low,Fix released]

 14:40 <seb128> the issue with deleting a target is that you can't add it back again (unless that changed/got fixed on launchpad)

 14:40 <willcooke> Could you poke Robert

 14:41 <kenvandine> i will

 14:41 <kenvandine> i plan to check on the status of snapd-glib and gnome-software SRUs anyway

 14:42 <willcooke> tkamppeter, do you need any help with this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-filters/+bug/1763520

 14:42 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1763520 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "after upgrade to bionic, printing fails without explanation / logs / debuggability" [High,In progress]

 14:42 <willcooke> CC incoming: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:42 <willcooke> all clear

 14:42 <willcooke> CC tracking:

 14:43 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:43 <willcooke> All looks ok

 14:43 <willcooke> DD incoming:

 14:43 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:44 <willcooke> clear

 14:44 <willcooke> DD tracking:

 14:44 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:44 <willcooke> all good.

 14:44 <willcooke> Proposed migrations: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 14:45 <willcooke> We need someone to look at the emacs one.

 14:45 <willcooke> oh, sorry, Laney - do you want to drive?

 14:45 <seb128> I did for emacs, it's on foundations

 14:45 <Laney> seb filed a bug about that, punted it to another team

 14:46 <willcooke> cool

 14:46 <willcooke> thanks

 14:46 <willcooke> anything else in the list which we should jump on?

 14:46 <didrocks> seb128: doko pinged me about emacs on the MIR meeting though

 14:46 <Laney> udisks2 colord

 14:46 <seb128> didrocks, to ask?

 14:46 <didrocks> seb128: what we do with the MIR

 14:46 <didrocks> well

 14:47 <seb128> what MIR?

 14:47 <jbicha> Laney: we just need to update the i386 hint for colord

 14:47 <seb128> Laney, I can look at udisks2

 14:47 <didrocks> seb128: sorry, he asked me to try to unblock it from proposed

 14:47 <didrocks> so, the message didn't go through the foundation team (at least, not everyone)

 14:47 <seb128> didrocks, ah, tell him to review their rls-dd-incoming bugs :p

 14:47 <didrocks> heh

 14:48 <Laney> actually he referenced https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg

 14:48 <seb128> let me tell him on devel

 14:48 <Laney> which does list emacs

 14:48 <seb128> ah

 14:48 <doko> are component mismatches on that list?

 14:49 <tkamppeter> willcooke, the only thiung there is that the GTK packages need to get uploaded. Then the SRU process should go its way.

 14:49 <willcooke> thx tjaalton

 14:49 <willcooke> opps, sorry, thx tkamppeter

 14:49 <seb128> tkamppeter, willcooke, GTK doesn't "only" need to be uploaded, it needs an upstream review first

 14:50 <seb128> doko, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/automake-1.16/+bug/1812688 is also blocking emacs (and other things) if you/someone from foundations could have a look

 14:50 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1812688 in automake-1.16 (Ubuntu) "self-check-report.sh fails on armhf/disco since new year" [Undecided,New]

 14:50 <Laney> thx for udisks2

 14:50 <Laney> who wants to take those MIRs or whatever for emacs then?

 14:51 <seb128> I can have a look I guess

 14:51 <willcooke> thx seb128

 14:52 <willcooke> any other concerns on the list Laney?

 14:52 <jbicha> willcooke: weren't you going to ask whether emacs needed to be in main?

 14:52 <seb128> it looks like mailutils should be moved to suggests

 14:52 <seb128> instead of recommends

 14:52 <willcooke> jbicha, I did, it does.

 14:53 <jbicha> cool, thanks

 14:53 <Laney> nothing else today

 14:53 <willcooke> #topic OB

 14:53 <willcooke> jbicha, you wanted to talk about the new portals stuff I think>

 14:53 <willcooke> ?

 14:54 <doko> willcooke: please tell your staff to properly escalate ;)  seb128, you surely need to have the last word everywhere

 14:54 <seb128> willcooke, rls-dd-incoming is the defined process

 14:54 <seb128> ups

 14:54 <seb128> doko, ^

 14:54 <jbicha> willcooke: we discused that some pre-meeting. I filed a bug upstream and was asked to submit a pr for the libflatpak issue

 14:55 <willcooke> k, thx jbicha

 14:55 <kenvandine> jbicha: thanks

 14:55 <kenvandine> i fear libflatpak is going to keep creeping in

 14:56 <didrocks> kenvandine: indeed, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flatpak/+bug/1812456 was mentioned in the MIR meeting

 14:56 <kenvandine> same thing nearly happened with g-c-c

 14:56 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1812456 in flatpak (Ubuntu) "[MIR} libflatpak" [Undecided,Incomplete]

 14:56 <jbicha> kenvandine: same developer too :)

 14:57 <didrocks> (MIR currently set as incomplete)

 14:57 <jbicha> I think I should go ahead and close the MIR since it may not be necessary now

 14:57 <kenvandine> jbicha: i just worry this is going to keep happening

 14:58 <willcooke> We can carry this on sfter the meeting ^

 14:58 <willcooke> AOB?

 14:59 <willcooke> 5

 14:59 <willcooke> 4

 14:59 <willcooke> 3,2,1

 14:59 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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