14:30 #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-01-15 14:30 Meeting started Tue Jan 15 14:30:29 2019 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:30 14:30 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:30 seb128: ... do you even need to ask? ;-) 14:30 o/ 14:30 Nafallo, it means Ubuntu 1 - 0 you-phone-OS 14:31 I blame Office 365 :-p 14:31 Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine (out), laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 14:31 éhey 14:31 áhi 14:31 hey 14:31 o/ 14:31 o/ 14:32 o/ 14:33 sorry, was reading the late updates from the hub :) 14:34 k, so bugs reviews 14:34 18.04.2 is getting close so now is time to focus on issues that need to land in that version 14:34 #topic rls bugs review 14:34 seb128: do we have a date yet? :-) 14:34 * disco, http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html / http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:35 Nafallo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule 14:35 feb 7th according to that 14:35 thanks 14:36 the disco list has no incoming and the tracking list are either assigned or fix commited 14:36 * cosmic, http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html / http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:36 no incoming 14:37 tracking seems on shape 14:37 * bionic 14:37 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html is empty 14:37 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:37 bug #1745032 is unassigned, I'm going to take it 14:37 bug 1745032 in upower (Ubuntu) "AC adapter status not detected on Asus ZenBook UX410UAK" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1745032 14:38 (it's an OEM request so I think it's fair it's targetted) 14:38 foundation? 14:38 Trevinho, you mean? 14:38 we look at the desktop section 14:39 I mean doesn't seem something related to our packages, more something lowlevel no? 14:39 upower is owned by us and there are gnome-control-center/gnome-shell changes 14:39 no, I think it's fine that desktop own this one 14:39 it's basically adding a new status to upower (which we own) and using that status in the GNOME UI 14:39 ah, ok... I saw now the comment 14:40 other one is bug #1811225 which I guess is for tjaalton 14:40 bug 1811225 in mesa (Ubuntu Bionic) "Mesa 18.2.8 stable release" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1811225 14:40 I can include it in the g-s landing I was preparing if you want 14:40 tjaalton, you aim at having that in 18.04.2? 14:41 Trevinho, yes please, also Daniel had some fixes he wanted included that he commented about on the hub weekly post, but I guess you are aware of those/are looking at them? 14:42 k, so I think that was it for the reviews 14:42 yep, not sure we wanted to have the landing with the XUbuntuCancel thing + more things. 14:42 I'm going to chase status update for some of the rls-bb-tracking bugs but after the meeting, I don't think we need to do that with everyone blocked 14:42 that was also targetted for .2 14:42 Trevinho, my gut feeling is that it's not important enough/too late for .2 14:43 we got 0 user reports about it 14:43 so not the most important thing probably 14:43 wdyt? 14:43 well it was bb tracking since ever xD, so you see why it wasn't higher prio for me too :D 14:43 but well, since it's there it's a bit annoying to rebase everytime 14:43 but I can do it if you prefer to keep it separated 14:44 right, well let's do a landing for .2 targetted fix 14:44 and then land that directly after 14:44 as per the g-s landing, I've asked again upstream a new release, but again... nothing. 14:44 :( 14:44 gnome-shell upstream is a bit of a frustation still :/ 14:44 unsure how we can resolve that though 14:44 ok, I'll prepare a silo with everything then, then you'll reupload. 14:45 anyway, not a topic for that meeting, maybe one for fosdem over beer 14:45 thx 14:45 *much beer 14:45 seb128: yes 14:45 or never 14:46 anyway 14:46 #topic AOB 14:46 other topics? 14:46 I use that section to say it again, 18.04.2 is getting close, if you have fixes that need to be in there/you think should be in there, now is time to get them uploaded 14:47 nothing for me 14:47 yeah, wanted to start thinking about updating to gnome 3.32 at some point 14:48 The Bionic SRU bug 1804576 is stuck on openjdk-8, perhaps this should get an exception. 14:48 bug 1804576 in cups (Ubuntu Cosmic) "MaxJobTime=0 results in jobs being cancelled immediately instead of never" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1804576 14:48 tkamppeter, is openjdk-8 creating problem for cups? or just for the test? (in which case we can probably convince the SRU team to unblock cups) 14:49 Laney, on 3.32 my opinion would be "those who are doing active work on a component and want to update it, feel free" 14:50 I don't think we need to fear gtk4 depends at this point, I doubt it's a think for 3.32 now 14:50 you mean having a random mix of versions? 14:50 I would stay away from updating things nobody is actively looking at until .90 14:50 well 14:50 I wouldn't bother updating e.g games 14:51 but if you/trevinho wants to jump on 3.31 for shell/nautilus/etc it sounds good to me 14:51 I'm happy to look at g-c-c/g-s-d (also maybe Robert is interested by that one as well since he has been quite active upstream recently) 14:51 well, just my 2 cents 14:51 not that I've plenty of time, but I can 14:51 seb128, there is no complaint/bug report of someone having problems with openjdk and CUPS, it is just the test. 14:52 everyone know what they have on their plates, if you want to do 3.31 updates feel free 14:52 I'd give prio to the SRU first, then we see 14:52 just don't do mass updates to an intermediate version to not look at bugs/keep up with fixes and/or updates then 14:52 we'll need to get libhandy MIR'd for at least gnome-control-center (it's a library from Purism for responsive UI) 14:52 tkamppeter, k, let me talk to the SRU team 14:52 jbicha, I though it was bundled and the copy used by default if the dep is not available? 14:53 which was the recommended way atm 14:53 oh yeah, we can do that for 3.32 14:53 whether that is recommended is controversial :) 14:53 my understanding from recent #gnome-hackers discussions was that it was the suggested approach atm 14:53 I bet libhandy doesn't have a stable API right now, so sounds curious to use it externally 14:53 well, in any case I don't think that MIR blocks us 14:56 k 14:56 Laney, did you want more input on the topic/does that sound fine to you? 14:56 no, I was mainly looking for any unknown reason why not to do it 14:56 thx 14:57 np 14:57 other topic? 14:58 seems not 14:58 it's a wrap then! 14:58 thank everyone 14:58 #endmeeting