14:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-01-15 14:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 15 14:30:29 2019 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:30 <meetingology> 14:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:30 <Nafallo> seb128: ... do you even need to ask? ;-) 14:30 <Nafallo> o/ 14:30 <seb128> Nafallo, it means Ubuntu 1 - 0 you-phone-OS 14:31 <Nafallo> I blame Office 365 :-p 14:31 <seb128> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine (out), laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 14:31 <didrocks> éhey 14:31 <Laney> áhi 14:31 <jbicha> hey 14:31 <Trevinho> o/ 14:31 <oSoMoN> o/ 14:32 <andyrock> o/ 14:33 <seb128> sorry, was reading the late updates from the hub :) 14:34 <seb128> k, so bugs reviews 14:34 <seb128> 18.04.2 is getting close so now is time to focus on issues that need to land in that version 14:34 <seb128> #topic rls bugs review 14:34 <Nafallo> seb128: do we have a date yet? :-) 14:34 <seb128> * disco, http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html / http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:35 <seb128> Nafallo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule 14:35 <seb128> feb 7th according to that 14:35 <Nafallo> thanks 14:36 <seb128> the disco list has no incoming and the tracking list are either assigned or fix commited 14:36 <seb128> * cosmic, http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html / http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:36 <seb128> no incoming 14:37 <seb128> tracking seems on shape 14:37 <seb128> * bionic 14:37 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html is empty 14:37 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:37 <seb128> bug #1745032 is unassigned, I'm going to take it 14:37 <ubot5> bug 1745032 in upower (Ubuntu) "AC adapter status not detected on Asus ZenBook UX410UAK" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1745032 14:38 <seb128> (it's an OEM request so I think it's fair it's targetted) 14:38 <Trevinho> foundation? 14:38 <seb128> Trevinho, you mean? 14:38 <seb128> we look at the desktop section 14:39 <Trevinho> I mean doesn't seem something related to our packages, more something lowlevel no? 14:39 <seb128> upower is owned by us and there are gnome-control-center/gnome-shell changes 14:39 <seb128> no, I think it's fine that desktop own this one 14:39 <seb128> it's basically adding a new status to upower (which we own) and using that status in the GNOME UI 14:39 <Trevinho> ah, ok... I saw now the comment 14:40 <seb128> other one is bug #1811225 which I guess is for tjaalton 14:40 <ubot5> bug 1811225 in mesa (Ubuntu Bionic) "Mesa 18.2.8 stable release" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1811225 14:40 <Trevinho> I can include it in the g-s landing I was preparing if you want 14:40 <seb128> tjaalton, you aim at having that in 18.04.2? 14:41 <seb128> Trevinho, yes please, also Daniel had some fixes he wanted included that he commented about on the hub weekly post, but I guess you are aware of those/are looking at them? 14:42 <seb128> k, so I think that was it for the reviews 14:42 <Trevinho> yep, not sure we wanted to have the landing with the XUbuntuCancel thing + more things. 14:42 <seb128> I'm going to chase status update for some of the rls-bb-tracking bugs but after the meeting, I don't think we need to do that with everyone blocked 14:42 <Trevinho> that was also targetted for .2 14:42 <seb128> Trevinho, my gut feeling is that it's not important enough/too late for .2 14:43 <seb128> we got 0 user reports about it 14:43 <seb128> so not the most important thing probably 14:43 <seb128> wdyt? 14:43 <Trevinho> well it was bb tracking since ever xD, so you see why it wasn't higher prio for me too :D 14:43 <Trevinho> but well, since it's there it's a bit annoying to rebase everytime 14:43 <Trevinho> but I can do it if you prefer to keep it separated 14:44 <seb128> right, well let's do a landing for .2 targetted fix 14:44 <seb128> and then land that directly after 14:44 <Trevinho> as per the g-s landing, I've asked again upstream a new release, but again... nothing. 14:44 <seb128> :( 14:44 <seb128> gnome-shell upstream is a bit of a frustation still :/ 14:44 <seb128> unsure how we can resolve that though 14:44 <Trevinho> ok, I'll prepare a silo with everything then, then you'll reupload. 14:45 <seb128> anyway, not a topic for that meeting, maybe one for fosdem over beer 14:45 <seb128> thx 14:45 <Trevinho> *much beer 14:45 <tjaalton> seb128: yes 14:45 <Laney> or never 14:46 <seb128> anyway 14:46 <seb128> #topic AOB 14:46 <seb128> other topics? 14:46 <seb128> I use that section to say it again, 18.04.2 is getting close, if you have fixes that need to be in there/you think should be in there, now is time to get them uploaded 14:47 <didrocks> nothing for me 14:47 <Laney> yeah, wanted to start thinking about updating to gnome 3.32 at some point 14:48 <tkamppeter> The Bionic SRU bug 1804576 is stuck on openjdk-8, perhaps this should get an exception. 14:48 <ubot5> bug 1804576 in cups (Ubuntu Cosmic) "MaxJobTime=0 results in jobs being cancelled immediately instead of never" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1804576 14:48 <seb128> tkamppeter, is openjdk-8 creating problem for cups? or just for the test? (in which case we can probably convince the SRU team to unblock cups) 14:49 <seb128> Laney, on 3.32 my opinion would be "those who are doing active work on a component and want to update it, feel free" 14:50 <seb128> I don't think we need to fear gtk4 depends at this point, I doubt it's a think for 3.32 now 14:50 <Laney> you mean having a random mix of versions? 14:50 <seb128> I would stay away from updating things nobody is actively looking at until .90 14:50 <seb128> well 14:50 <seb128> I wouldn't bother updating e.g games 14:51 <seb128> but if you/trevinho wants to jump on 3.31 for shell/nautilus/etc it sounds good to me 14:51 <seb128> I'm happy to look at g-c-c/g-s-d (also maybe Robert is interested by that one as well since he has been quite active upstream recently) 14:51 <seb128> well, just my 2 cents 14:51 <Trevinho> not that I've plenty of time, but I can 14:51 <tkamppeter> seb128, there is no complaint/bug report of someone having problems with openjdk and CUPS, it is just the test. 14:52 <seb128> everyone know what they have on their plates, if you want to do 3.31 updates feel free 14:52 <Trevinho> I'd give prio to the SRU first, then we see 14:52 <seb128> just don't do mass updates to an intermediate version to not look at bugs/keep up with fixes and/or updates then 14:52 <jbicha> we'll need to get libhandy MIR'd for at least gnome-control-center (it's a library from Purism for responsive UI) 14:52 <seb128> tkamppeter, k, let me talk to the SRU team 14:52 <seb128> jbicha, I though it was bundled and the copy used by default if the dep is not available? 14:53 <seb128> which was the recommended way atm 14:53 <jbicha> oh yeah, we can do that for 3.32 14:53 <jbicha> whether that is recommended is controversial :) 14:53 <seb128> my understanding from recent #gnome-hackers discussions was that it was the suggested approach atm 14:53 <didrocks> I bet libhandy doesn't have a stable API right now, so sounds curious to use it externally 14:53 <seb128> well, in any case I don't think that MIR blocks us 14:56 <seb128> k 14:56 <seb128> Laney, did you want more input on the topic/does that sound fine to you? 14:56 <Laney> no, I was mainly looking for any unknown reason why not to do it 14:56 <Laney> thx 14:57 <seb128> np 14:57 <seb128> other topic? 14:58 <seb128> seems not 14:58 <seb128> it's a wrap then! 14:58 <seb128> thank everyone 14:58 <seb128> #endmeeting