14:31 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2018-12-18 14:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec 18 14:31:48 2018 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:31 <meetingology> 14:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:31 <andyrock> o/ 14:31 <Nafallo> o/ 14:32 <seb128> hey 14:32 <jbicha> o/ 14:32 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks (hols), duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney (out), oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho (hols), robert_ancell (out) 14:32 <jibel> hi 14:32 <kenvandine> o/ 14:33 <willcooke> I think we've got enough people. I'll start on the BB incoming 14:33 <willcooke> andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 14:33 <willcooke> oops 14:33 <oSoMoN> o/ 14:33 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:33 <willcooke> The usual url-dispatchers #1718254 14:34 <willcooke> Nothing new 14:34 <jbicha> oh that shouldn't be tracked for bionic 14:35 <willcooke> kk, marked as not fixing 14:35 <willcooke> Just looking at bb tracking 14:36 <willcooke> Does this need work in compiz still? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1778817 14:36 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1778817 in compiz (Ubuntu Bionic) "release upgrade from xenial to bionic desktop: screen locks itself, password to unlock fails" [Critical,New] 14:37 <willcooke> cc incoming is clear 14:37 <seb128> (unsure about that compiz one) 14:37 <willcooke> cc tracking is in good shape 14:37 <andyrock> mmm not sure how does it relate to compiz 14:38 <andyrock> usually is the update manager that should disable the lockscreen during the upgrade 14:38 <willcooke> Yeah, and that's fixed, so perhaps we can mark it as not affecting compiz? 14:38 <andyrock> yeah 14:38 <willcooke> andyrock, would you do the honors? 14:38 <andyrock> kk 14:38 <willcooke> thx 14:38 <willcooke> dd incoming: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:39 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1805857 is assigned to L_aney - checking my notes 14:39 <kenvandine> whoops, i forgot to update the hub before my days off 14:39 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1805857 in network-manager (Ubuntu Disco) "network-manager dep8 failure blocks dnsmasq proposed migration" [High,Triaged] 14:39 <seb128> he mentioned it in his summary 14:39 <seb128> he has it on his backlog before holidays 14:40 <willcooke> got it 14:40 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1808874 14:40 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1808874 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "nvidia-detector doesn't seem to detect nvidia" [Undecided,New] 14:40 <willcooke> was talked about this morning 14:40 <willcooke> This is different to the software and updates tool right? 14:40 <seb128> yes, it's a command line utility which is not in use nowadays apparently 14:41 <willcooke> kk cool 14:41 <seb128> I don't think it's import to rls track so I would tag -notfixing 14:41 <seb128> and assign to tseliot since he said he's going to fix it 14:41 <willcooke> done 14:42 <willcooke> everything else is clear 14:42 <willcooke> woot 14:42 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1768637 ? 14:42 <willcooke> Feels like we're on top of the rls bugs 14:42 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1768637 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "/etc/modprobe.d is not a file" [Undecided,Confirmed] 14:42 <willcooke> oh, I assumed that wasnt a desktop one 14:42 <seb128> it's in desktop set on the list :p 14:43 <seb128> tseliot, ^ do you know what's the deal with this one? 14:43 <willcooke> meh 14:43 <seb128> I would probably vote -notfixing and havign a look anyway, same as previous one 14:43 <tseliot> seb128: it's not really a bug 14:44 <willcooke> tseliot, would you mind commenting on the bug? I'll mark as not fixing 14:45 <willcooke> #topic AOB 14:45 <seb128> tseliot, well, having those sort of messages by default in the journal seems buggy to me, and the string contains "error", maybe the message should be at least changed to hint those are ok problems 14:45 <willcooke> Anyone got anything they want to talk about, ask for help on, etc? 14:45 <tseliot> willcooke: I can make the app more quiet if it bothers uses that much 14:45 <seb128> or hidden by default/behind a --debug option 14:45 <tseliot> *users 14:46 <jbicha> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages looks mostly good 14:46 <jbicha> could we get Desktop removed from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-common ? 14:46 <seb128> tseliot, well, if I see those in the warning it looks like something is trying to access things and failing so a bug 14:46 <jbicha> I'm going to handle sane-backends this week 14:46 <willcooke> thanks jbicha 14:46 <seb128> jbicha, L_aney stepped up to handle that section 14:47 <seb128> seems like you are stepping on each others toes 14:47 <seb128> which is not nice 14:47 <seb128> but thanks for carring, just maybe do it in a way synced up with him? 14:47 <jbicha> I think Laney said he wasn't going to be able to make the meeting? 14:47 <jbicha> and we were in AOB now 14:47 <seb128> he sent his summary/status via email 14:47 <seb128> I expected willcooke to share it 14:47 <jbicha> I don't mind letting someone else handle it :) 14:48 <willcooke> #topic Migrations 14:48 <willcooke> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:48 <willcooke> apport, we should ask foundations/bdmurray to investigate, seems that 14:48 <willcooke> test got way slower / more flaky recently 14:48 <willcooke> sane-backends, same old story with no progress 14:48 <willcooke> pygobject, would be good if someone were to look at the ubuntu-make 14:48 <willcooke> regression there 14:48 <willcooke> harfbuzz fails in debian too, hopefully we get an update for free 14:48 <willcooke> libixion/liborcus seems to come down to test failures 14:48 <willcooke> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#mdds 14:48 <willcooke> rls looks OK to me 14:48 <willcooke> #topic AOB 14:48 <seb128> willcooke, thx :) 14:49 <jbicha> libreoffice will need a rebuild for liborcus 14:49 <willcooke> sorry. I assumed everyone had seen it, but of course, that email wont be public 14:50 <seb128> k, so sane-backends jbicha said he would deal with, thx! 14:50 <seb128> do we have anyone who wants to look at ubuntu-make? 14:50 <willcooke> Was there a community maintainer there for a while? 14:51 <seb128> I think so, Didier would know the detail but he's on holidays 14:51 <jbicha> ubuntu-make has ssl cert errors in its autopkgtest log 14:51 <willcooke> I can see if I can track the guy down 14:51 <willcooke> might be an easy fix 14:52 <oSoMoN> jbicha, re libreoffice, I'm preparing 6.1.4 and will upload to disco today 14:52 <seb128> oSoMoN, did you see the mdds failure (https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-disco/disco/amd64/m/mdds/20181218_114522_7f023@/log.gz) ? 14:52 <seb128> unsure if that's going to be an issue for libreoffice 14:52 <jbicha> oSoMoN: thanks, liborcus was just syncd from Debian a few hours ago so no need to rush :) 14:53 <oSoMoN> seb128, nope, looking 14:53 <seb128> jbicha, @ssl, so it's a known issue/you know what to do? 14:54 <jbicha> seb128: I don't know what to do for ubuntu-make except ask Foundations for help? 14:54 <seb128> k, I though you made that comment because you had more info on what the ssl problem is 14:54 <seb128> it's obvious from the log that there is a ssl error yes :p 14:56 <seb128> there is also a code coverage error 14:56 <seb128> oh well, let's see if xnox maybe can help with the ssl issue, otherwise that can probably wait post holidays 14:57 <willcooke> It's not blocking anything is it? 14:57 <seb128> pygobject only 14:57 <seb128> which I don't think is in a transition at this point 14:57 <willcooke> it can probably wait then 14:58 <willcooke> anything else before we end the meeting? 14:58 <seb128> not from me 14:58 <willcooke> we can continue after if needed 14:58 <willcooke> thanks all 14:58 <willcooke> #endmeeting