== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Meeting - 2018-12-11, 11 Dec at 14:30 — 14:59 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-12-11-14.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gjs/+bug/1803271 
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop3/+bug/1807127 
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1807719 
''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html 
''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1797381 
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1805444 
''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html 
=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 14:57.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * seb128 (81)
 * Laney (26)
 * kenvandine (11)
 * ubot5 (8)
 * jbicha (5)
 * didrocks (3)
 * meetingology (3)
 * popey (1)



== Full Log ==


 14:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2018-12-11

 14:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec 11 14:30:44 2018 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 14:30 <meetingology> 

 14:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 14:31 <didrocks> hey

 14:31 <seb128> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN (out), tkamppeter,  robert_ancell (out)

 14:31 <Laney> hi

 14:32 <jbicha> howdy 🤠

 14:32 <seb128> The weekly updates are on https://community.ubuntu.com/t/monday-10th-december/9005

 14:32 <seb128> let's do bugs reviews

 14:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:32 <seb128> no item for us there

 14:32 <kenvandine> o/

 14:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:33 <seb128> some accepted/not fix commited/without owner

 14:33 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gjs/+bug/1803271

 14:33 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1803271 in gjs (Ubuntu Bionic) "[regression] Much higher CPU during some gnome-shell operations" [Medium,Triaged]

 14:34 <seb128> looks like the fix is the incoming 1.52.5

 14:34 <seb128> does anyone want to own that SRU?

 14:35 <seb128> if not I'm going to assign Marco, seems he has been working upstream on preparing the release

 14:35 <Laney> yes, the original assignee?

 14:35 <seb128> I guess let's do that

 14:35 <seb128> Daniel?

 14:36 <Laney> looks like that's who it was initially

 14:36 <seb128> k, let me assign to him

 14:36 <seb128> he can do trade with marco if he wants

 14:36 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop3/+bug/1807127

 14:36 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1807127 in gnome-desktop3 (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Fixing bug #1795668 breaks thumbnail creation on 32-bit Ubuntu" [Critical,Triaged]

 14:36 <seb128> Laney, do you own that one?

 14:36 <Laney> dunno, if you read my status I asked Jeremy if he would take care of uploading

 14:37 <jbicha> seb128: yes, I am working on the gnome-desktop one

 14:37 <seb128> ah, right

 14:37 <seb128> jbicha, please take the bugs assignment then

 14:37 <seb128> thx

 14:37 <seb128> (sorry, I did read that bit but forgot the detail)

 14:37 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1807719

 14:37 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1807719 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Some emoji in emoji chooser are black & white" [Low,In progress]

 14:37 <jbicha> I need to work with Security for the uploads

 14:37 <seb128> jbicha, I guess that's for you as well?

 14:37 <jbicha> yes

 14:37 <seb128> also please don't nominate bugs without assignement

 14:38 <seb128> either rls tag or nominate/assign to yourself directly if that's what you plan to do

 14:38 <jbicha> sure, I meant to self-nominate for the gtk3 one

 14:38 <seb128> k

 14:38 <seb128> thx

 14:38 <seb128> ah, also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1781597

 14:38 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1781597 in network-manager (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] WoWLAN settings are not supported" [Wishlist,Triaged]

 14:39 <seb128> I take that one, I uploaded to disco/cosmic, bionic SRU is ongoing work

 14:39 <seb128> kenvandine, you said previous week you would take https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/+bug/1750069 but didn't? :(

 14:39 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1750069 in xdg-desktop-portal-gtk (Ubuntu Bionic) "[MIR] xdg-desktop-portal-gtk" [Undecided,New]

 14:40 <seb128> k, that's it for bionic

 14:40 <kenvandine> whoops

 14:40 <kenvandine> thought i had

 14:40 <kenvandine> sorry

 14:40 <kenvandine> i've been working on it :)

 14:40 <seb128> np, thx for fixing :)

 14:40 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:40 <seb128> no desktop there

 14:40 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:41 <seb128> the gtk & gnome-desktop ones we just discussed are the only ones

 14:41 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:41 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1797381

 14:41 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1797381 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "In tablet mode, step "Who are you" OSK hides when the passwordd field is focused" [High,Incomplete]

 14:42 <seb128> opinion on +1/-1?

 14:42 <seb128> touch only isn't common and it's probalby easy to workaround (I didn't test but I guess you can swipe up invoke the keyboard)

 14:43 <seb128> but at the same time touch support is becoming more important especially for oem

 14:43 <Laney> dunno, but I don't like the suggested solution :-)

 14:43 <seb128> I would say -1/rls-not-fixing, we can still have a go at fixing it (and it's assigned)

 14:44 <kenvandine> seb128: i recently witnessed a user of an all in one with a blue tooth keyboard

 14:44 <Laney> "osk is completly broken under xorg" is not a situation that upstream would want either

 14:44 <kenvandine> he was using the touch screen with the keyboard turned off

 14:44 <kenvandine> that would be inconvenient to turn on the keyboard to work around that

 14:44 <seb128> can you swipe up the osk though?

 14:45 <seb128> or is that also not working?

 14:45 <kenvandine> i think you can

 14:45 <kenvandine> the example i have was a windows user :)

 14:45 <seb128> Laney, yeah, I talked a bit about Carlos about that, doesn't really a focus for them though :/

 14:45 <seb128> anyway

 14:45 <seb128> +1/-1?

 14:45 <Laney> -1 is ok for me

 14:46 <Laney> it'll come back by other routes if oems want it

 14:46 <seb128> right

 14:46 <didrocks> agreed

 14:47 <seb128> the other one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1805857

 14:47 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1805857 in network-manager (Ubuntu Disco) "network-manager dep8 failure blocks dnsmasq proposed migration" [High,Triaged]

 14:47 <seb128> which needs to get its tag deleted, I'm doing that now

 14:47 <Laney> thx

 14:47 <seb128> I updated n-m to 1.12.6, that didn't automagically resolve the issue :/

 14:47 <Laney> yeah, guess I get to look again

 14:47 <Laney> I am seriously clueless here though, going to take some time

 14:48 <popey> oSoMoN: hey! Run "snap find" and you'll see Libreoffice is the longest "summary" of all the featured snaps. I wonder if there might be too many words in that summary, and it could be shortened a bit to fit on a display less than 3000 pixels wide :D

 14:48 <seb128> I'm having a look/might try to just throw that in the air on #nm in case it rings a bell upstream

 14:48 <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1805444

 14:48 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1805444 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Fail to launch gnome-shell (Wayland) on Ubuntu with EGLDevice backend" [Medium,Fix released]

 14:48 <Laney> this one didn't show up

 14:49 <Laney> that's probably because the task is fix released

 14:49 <Laney> wonder if we should ask if foundations can fix the report to show those bugs

 14:49 <seb128> do you want to do take the item to ask them about that?

 14:49 <seb128> (if not I can)

 14:50 <Laney> k, unless you think that sync meeting you have is a better venue

 14:50 <seb128> I think it's probably easier to ask Brian first if he can do that

 14:50 <Laney> k

 14:50 <seb128> rather than going up-and-down chains

 14:50 <seb128> thx

 14:51 <Laney> sometimes chains work for getting people to work on stuff :-)

 14:51 <seb128> so back to this bug

 14:51 <seb128> right :)

 14:51 <seb128> well, I put a note for it

 14:51 <Laney> k

 14:52 <Laney> anyway, not sure making wayland work on bionic is an rls goal?

 14:52 <seb128> if nothing moves before eoy I raise it up post holidays

 14:52 <seb128> right, it's not

 14:52 <seb128> nvidia asked about egl support though

 14:53 <seb128> but again, we can say no and it can come back via customer escalation if needed

 14:53 <seb128> so I vote -1 for today

 14:53 <Laney> yup

 14:54 <seb128> thx

 14:54 <seb128> doing that then

 14:54 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:54 <seb128> is clear

 14:54 <seb128> so I think that's it for rls bugs

 14:54 <seb128> Laney, your turn for https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 14:55 <Laney> k, ongoing transition should clear out a lot of those

 14:55 <Laney> n-m and sane are the only things to care about I think

 14:55 <Laney> pinged on that sane-backends bug, really unclear what the problem is

 14:55 <Laney> and nm is being worked

 14:55 <Laney> so I think it's ok more or less

 14:56 <seb128> the sane-backend one is a bit ridiculous :/

 14:57 <seb128> thx Laney

 14:57 <seb128> #topic AOB

 14:57 <seb128> other topics?

 14:58 <didrocks> nothing for me

 14:58 <kenvandine> nothing here

 14:58 <seb128> ok

 14:58 <seb128> well, good one team

 14:59 <seb128> have a good holidays for those who are off before the next meeting

 14:59 <seb128> try to relax and enjoy the time off and recharge for the next year :)

 14:59 <seb128> #endmeeting



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