14:30 #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2018-12-04 14:30 Meeting started Tue Dec 4 14:30:34 2018 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:30 14:30 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:30 o/ 14:30 Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, robert_ancell (out) 14:31 o/ 14:31 o/ 14:31 hey 14:31 This weeks updates: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/monday-3rd-december-2018/8903/5 14:32 hey 14:32 o/ 14:32 o) 14:33 Let's start with BB rls bugs: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:33 o/ 14:33 One added by seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iputils/+bug/1798313 14:33 Ubuntu bug 1798313 in iputils (Ubuntu) "traceoute6 gives error sendto: Invalid argument" [Undecided,Confirmed] 14:33 yeah, I was unsure if it's important (and I didn't know before we owned iputils :p) 14:34 Yeah, I was wondering how we came to own that 14:34 but sounds like ipv6 tools would be good to have working in the LTS 14:34 probably n-m stack depedns 14:34 yeah, likely 14:34 I'd agree something like that low level tool should work in the LTS 14:34 anyway, I'm not sure it's really worth actively rls tracking but I wanted at least to raise awareness/have it mentioned 14:35 Is it already on your backlog seb128? 14:35 or are you looking for someone to work on it? 14:35 it looks like Server has rdepends for it now. We used to have gnome-nettool in main 14:36 I somewhat have it on my "things to keep an eye on" 14:36 if someone wants to own it feel free 14:36 oki, I will add it to the agenda for the next Foundations/Server meeting and see if server want to take it on 14:36 that said let's +1/-1 on rls tracking it? 14:36 I think it's too minor so -1 from me :p 14:37 -1 as well 14:37 personally, I'd rather let Server or whoever triage it :) 14:37 willcooke, let me rls-bb-notfixing it with a comment then 14:37 and we can try to "sell" iputils to server 14:37 ack 14:37 get top dollar! 14:38 :) 14:38 k, added to the notes for the next foundations meeting 14:39 On to CC bugs: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:39 Nothing new 14:39 Doing a quick scan of the others 14:40 willcooke, https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit/?id=385a4886 14:40 ups sorry 14:40 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:40 that one has an important one 14:40 stand by, just checking the other CC bugs to make sure I havent missed anything 14:41 ah ok, I though you forgot -dd and were done with the incoming lists 14:41 sorry :p 14:41 :) 14:41 Ok, CC tracking is in good shape. Everything is assigned and active (even those not showing as assigned are) 14:42 So now we come to DD incoming: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:42 :) 14:42 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1805857 14:42 Ubuntu bug 1805857 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "network-manager dep8 failure blocks dnsmasq proposed migration" [High,Triaged] 14:43 Who can take that one? 14:43 Robie has been nice enough to do debugging on the issue and believes the real problem is on the n-m tests side 14:43 the bug has some debugging details and an easy way to reproduce 14:43 I +1 to nominate it since it blocks things in proposed 14:43 yeah, +1 to accept it 14:45 Laney, would you be able to take a look at it? 14:46 he doesn't seem to be around 14:46 yes I am 14:46 guess so 14:46 oh, sorry 14:47 not that I know anything in particular about network-manager 14:47 thank you Laney 14:47 I though I didn't see you wave or comment earlier so I assumed you were not 14:47 but I take my share of rls bugs :-) 14:47 thx Laney 14:48 Nothing else for us in incoming. There are a couple of Ubiquity related ones, one of which andyrock is already looking at and the other is a minor string change which I can probably make an MP for easy enough 14:48 am I? 14:49 andyrock, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1797381 14:49 Ubuntu bug 1797381 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "In tablet mode, step "Who are you" OSK hides when the passwordd field is focused" [High,New] 14:49 ah that's not real a problem with Ubiquity 14:49 more ibus + gnome-shell 14:49 we really need to sort out those OSK issues 14:50 Should that one be a rls tracked bug? 14:50 andyrock, let's talk about them tomorrow, I might go coworking on Carlos friday so I can talk directly with him about things that are on our list 14:50 seb128 thanks, if it's not rls worthy could you untag it once you know more? 14:50 seb128: kk 14:51 willcooke, k, well it's tagged but ubiquity is on the foundations list 14:51 andyrock, that one is more a gnome-shell issue though no? 14:51 sure, but if the problem is elsewhere then it should probably be changed too 14:51 yes it's a gnome-shell issue (or ibus) 14:51 I know the problem but there is not an easy fix 14:52 let's discuss it tomorrow 14:52 k 14:52 thx 14:52 Ok, on to proposed migration issues: 14:52 http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:52 before we wrap bugs 14:52 oops 14:52 soprry 14:52 k, or later :p 14:52 go on seb128 14:52 bug #1749672 is on the bb list unassigned 14:52 bug 1749672 in xdg-desktop-portal (Ubuntu Bionic) "[MIR] xdg-desktop-portal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749672 14:53 kenvandine, ^ you nominated it, can you get it assigned? to you as a default maybe? 14:53 yes 14:53 thx 14:53 i'll do that 14:53 thx kenvandine 14:53 still waiting on security though 14:53 http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:54 Laney, do you want to do a run through? Or shall I go through them one by one? 14:54 i'm good 14:54 n-m is assigned 14:54 libreoffice ought to be fixed 14:54 poppler is blocked by LO & xpdf https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/poppler.html 14:54 I'm looking at LO 14:54 still struggling to reproduce locally the unit test failures 14:55 jbicha: i'll lead this, thanks 14:55 oSoMoN, any chance you get it sorted out before your long w.e? 14:55 seb128, that's definitely my top priority 14:55 k 14:55 thx 14:55 so for poppler, I started looking at xpdf 14:55 would be good if someone can help out with other things 14:56 I can do the MIR for the new font depends 14:56 fonts-yrsa-rasa 14:56 yeh 14:56 I guess enchant/hunspell is libreoffice blocked 14:56 ? 14:57 think so, let's look at those once it is unblocked 14:57 k 14:57 just poppler and tracker for someone to help on I think 14:57 cups-filters looks like its poppler again 14:57 yes 14:57 jbicha, what's the deal with tracker? are you handling that one? 14:58 Laney, poppler is there more needed if olivier do libreoffice and you xpdf? or did you need help on xpdf? 14:58 seb128: I'm stuck on tracker, I reported the issues upstream. We could fix the autopkgtest regression if we switched back to autotools 14:58 dunno, I didn't analyse every package 14:58 the task would be partially to do that 14:58 and then help fix anything left over 14:58 Laney, k, I'm going to try to help on poppler as well and review the list 14:59 ty 14:59 thank you chaps 14:59 I believe those are the only 2 blockers for poppler really. perl needs to clean its autopkgtest queue & there are a few leaf packages to be removed like 14:59 https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/hunspell.html 14:59 on tracker I don't have a strong opinion 15:00 if it's not blocking other things it's probably fine to wait a bit on upstream 15:00 if the MIR is approved and we want to enable it in nautilus and need to unblock then we can revert to autotools 15:00 imho 15:00 or proper fix which would be even better 15:00 * Laney shrugs 15:00 I'd rather assign someone to sort it out one way or another 15:00 than decide now how to fix it 15:00 willcooke, for cups-filters there came some fixes to fit it to current Poppler recently. I will soon make a new release. In general, I hope to get a GSoC student modify pdftoraster to stop using unstable Poppler interfaces. 15:01 thx tkamppeter 15:01 andyrock, I know you are busy, do you think you could have a look to the track test issue this week or next? 15:02 andyrock, feel free to tell me you prefer not if you are already packed with that livepatch work 15:02 not sure it was that cool to switch and upload a broken version 15:02 seb128: I'll take a look 15:02 thx andyrock! 15:02 and yeah, uploading something buggy and not sorting it out is not the best :/ 15:03 I guess we covered the list now? 15:03 Laney: if you're talking to me, I'm trying to run autopkgtest more before I do major uploads like the tracker meson switch 15:03 I'm ok with switching it back to autotools for a bit. The meson build is less ideal for us right now anyway 15:03 seb128: is there a bug somewhere? 15:04 or issue 15:05 andyrock, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/tracker/issues/59 15:05 GNOME issue 59 in tracker "functional-16-collation test failures" [Opened] 15:05 willcooke, Laney, AOB I guess? 15:05 thx 15:05 #topic AOB 15:06 Anyone got anything? 15:06 nope 15:06 not me 15:06 going once 15:06 😶 15:06 jbicha: yes, I think experimental & filing bugs in advance rather than breaking the 'production' suites would have been better 15:06 andyrock: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/tracker/issues/61 is the other bug 15:06 GNOME issue 61 in tracker "tracker-miner-fs test: Parent recursive/4 not indexed yet" [Opened] 15:06 i.e. I would suggest switching back 15:07 glib's conversion has been done well in this regard 15:07 sorry, didn't mean to interrupt the aob 15:07 np 15:07 ok, I'll switch tracker back to autotools to unblock things 15:07 I think we can end here and carry on afterwards 15:07 #endmeeting