14:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting 2018-11-27
14:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 27 14:30:37 2018 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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14:30 <willcooke> Hi all
14:30 <Nafallo> o/
14:30 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
14:30 <seb128> _o/
14:30 <tseliot> o/
14:30 <jibel> o/
14:30 <kenvandine> o/
14:31 <willcooke> Just give people a couple of mins
14:31 <tjaalton> \o
14:31 <didrocks> hey
14:32 <willcooke> Oki
14:32 <willcooke> So rls bug updates from the bullet list looks pretty good.
14:33 <oSoMoN> o/
14:33 <willcooke> So we can go through the incoming, then hand over to laney for the other bugs, then AOB
14:33 <willcooke> bb incoming
14:33 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:34 <willcooke> That url-dispatcher one as always, but nothing new
14:34 <seb128> I'm going to get that one of the list
14:34 <willcooke> should I assign one of the tasks to you?
14:35 <andyrock> o/
14:35 <willcooke> or all of them, or none of them>?
14:35 <willcooke> or nothing
14:35 <seb128> none, just wontfix for that serie
14:35 <willcooke> ack
14:35 <seb128> the initial problem was worked around
14:35 <willcooke> thanks seb128
14:35 <seb128> so that's non important to fix the remaining in bionic
14:35 <seb128> np
14:35 <willcooke> cc incoming: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:35 <willcooke> 1 bug, twice.  Assigned to tjaalton.
14:35 <willcooke> Nothing new
14:35 <seb128> he has a package in a ppa for testing
14:36 <willcooke> cool
14:36 <tjaalton> yeah
14:36 <seb128> if anyone feels like giving it a try (I might, just failing to get to that point of my todo atm)
14:36 <tjaalton> marked it 'incomplete' now
14:36 <tjaalton> was only for disco
14:36 <willcooke> I will spin up a VM this afternoon
14:37 <willcooke> dd-incoming: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:37 <willcooke> 2 bugs.
14:37 <Laney> (we should be deleting incoming when nominating, that cosmic one was already accepted)
14:38 <andyrock> removed
14:38 <willcooke> thanks Laney
14:38 <willcooke> I went to change it but you already had
14:38 <Laney> :3
14:38 <willcooke> :)
14:38 <seb128> I though the report was smart enough to not list things with an accepted serie targetting, seems not :/
14:38 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1805200
14:38 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1805200 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Disco) "Xorg crashes when it tries to resume a scale transformation after that Screen has been closed. Crashed in __strlen_avx2() from transform_filter_length() from ProcRRGetCrtcTransform()" [High,Triaged]
14:39 <willcooke> assigned, and targetted so I assume it's accepted too
14:39 <willcooke> oh
14:39 * willcooke reads it
14:39 <willcooke> ah right
14:39 <willcooke> oki, we should talk about it then
14:39 <willcooke> I would be +1 for accepting since we need it for fractional scaling under x
14:39 <seb128> +1
14:40 <willcooke> anyone against?
14:40 <kenvandine> +1
14:40 <Laney> tjaalton accepted it himself already, not much to say there I don't think
14:40 <willcooke> oki, removed the tag
14:40 <seb128> Marco got upstream comments now which is good :)
14:40 <willcooke> \o/
14:41 <willcooke> Here ends the bug review.  Not too shabby
14:41 <willcooke> Laney, over to you
14:42 <Laney> yeh
14:42 <Laney> so
14:42 <Laney> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:42 <Laney> idea is to see if there's anything on there that should be worked on
14:43 <Laney> I saw seb128 asked foundations to look at that n-m failure caused by dnsmasq, seems sensible
14:43 <willcooke> +1
14:44 <Laney> apart from that...
14:44 <Laney> jbicha: did you want to say something about that sane thing or tracker?
14:45 <Laney> there's some history with those two that I don't fully know
14:46 <Laney> maybe we can talk about those later on
14:46 <willcooke> yeah
14:47 <Laney> so I think v4l-utils and at-spi2-core could do with being handled
14:47 <Laney> udisks2 just needs the hint updated
14:47 <Laney> (done)
14:48 <seb128> the at-spi2-core tests seem flackyness, I retried
14:48 <seb128> (first was blocked on depwait from meson, but that got cleared yesterday)
14:48 <seb128> or said differently I'm looking at that one
14:48 <seb128> v4l-utils seems a real build issue, I just looked at debian/upstream, no obvious report/fix there
14:49 <Laney> thx
14:49 <seb128> does anyone to have a look to that one?
14:49 <Laney> maybe we can ask foundations if anyone can look at apport to de-flake the tests
14:49 <jbicha> sane-backends probably needs a transitional package added in Ubuntu & Debian
14:50 <Laney> k, are you handling it?
14:50 * Laney didn't follow that situation and is happy to not know about it :-)
14:50 <jbicha> see LP: #1804550 and Debian bug 913346
14:50 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1804550 in sane-backends (Ubuntu) "New version 1.0.27-3.1 all libsane-common does not update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1804550
14:50 <ubot5> Debian bug 913346 in sane-backends "libsane1: Cannot update libsane1" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/913346
14:51 <seb128> @apport, I can do that, but the failing tests had "WARNING: cannot connect to: https://api.launchpad.net/devel.." so I wonder if that was a temp infra problem
14:51 <jbicha> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/tracker/issues/61 & https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/tracker/issues/59 are blocking the autopkgtests
14:51 <gitbot> GNOME issue 61 in tracker "tracker-miner-fs test: Parent recursive/4 not indexed yet" [Opened]
14:51 <gitbot> GNOME issue 59 in tracker "functional-16-collation test failures" [Opened]
14:51 <Laney> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/apport/disco/amd64
14:51 <Laney> they probably want to handle it being unreliable in the tests / apport itself
14:51 <jbicha> the tracker autopkgtest failures are fallout from my switching the package to meson
14:52 <seb128> Laney, fair enough
14:52 <seb128> I take that item as well
14:52 <jbicha> I'm not handling sane-backends right now
14:53 <Laney> k, well that can sit there then
14:53 <jbicha> I don't think tracker being stuck is blocking anything yet
14:54 <Laney> if you can work with upstream on those tracker failures please
14:54 <Laney> not sure it was required to ping me about debootstrap, I'm sure you can manage that, but if you really can't then I can help I guess
14:54 <Laney> that's the end
14:54 <willcooke> thanks Laney
14:54 <Laney> except someone to look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/v4l-utils/1.16.1-2/+build/15637736 - not super urgent but we should do it at some point
14:54 <willcooke> Do we still need a volunteer for v4l-utils
14:55 <willcooke> ?
14:55 <willcooke> ha
14:55 <willcooke> yes
14:56 <willcooke> We'll see if we can find a volunteer by EOW
14:56 <seb128> or wait, I don't think it's blocking anything else atm
14:56 <willcooke> kk
14:56 <willcooke> #topic AOB
14:57 <willcooke> popey, you had one
14:57 <popey> ya
14:57 <seb128> unsure how to handle best those non urgent items, if we keep asking, or just force an owner
14:57 <popey> I thought you might appreciate an "Ubuntu Desktop in the wild".
14:57 <popey> "CuriousMarc" YouTube channel has a series of videos where they're repairing the Apollo Guidance Computer
14:57 <Laney> should eventually assign someone
14:57 <popey> I keep seeing Ubuntu pop up in it.
14:57 <popey> Mike Stewart - one of the experts doing the repair (and actual Space Engineer for SpaceX) uses Ubuntu on a ThinkPad. :)
14:57 <oSoMoN> nice
14:57 <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KSahAoOLdU is episode 1
14:57 <popey> Worth a watch if you like historic electronics, space, or seeing random 50 year-old document scans on Ubuntu :)
14:57 <popey> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6H5u76yG/Screenshot%20from%202018-11-27%2014-31-10.png
14:57 <kenvandine> cool
14:58 <popey> EOM
14:58 <seb128> nice one popey :)
14:58 <willcooke> seb128, Laney - yeah, if it's still hanging around next week then we can assign someone.  Is that sort of timescale acceptable, or does it need attention in days?
14:59 <seb128> imho waiting a week is fine, but then we can as well find an assignee now and state that it can be looked at when possible/not as an high priority
15:01 <Laney> you guys think about who you might want to assign before the next meeting :-)
15:01 <Laney> looks like it's around gl stuff
15:01 <willcooke> kk, lets look more in to it
15:01 <willcooke> any more business?
15:02 <didrocks> nothing for me
15:02 <willcooke> sounds like not
15:02 <andyrock> nope
15:02 <willcooke> #endmeeting