== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25, 25 Sep at 13:31 — 14:16 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-09-25-13.31.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 13:33.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 13:35.


=== didrocks ===
The discussion about "didrocks" started at 13:37.


=== jamesh ===
The discussion about "jamesh" started at 13:38.


=== jibel ===
The discussion about "jibel" started at 13:38.


=== heber ===
The discussion about "heber" started at 13:39.


=== kenvandine ===
The discussion about "kenvandine" started at 13:40.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 13:41.


=== oSoMoN ===
The discussion about "oSoMoN" started at 13:45.


=== tjaalton ===
The discussion about "tjaalton" started at 13:47.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 13:48.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 13:51.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 13:51.

  * ''LINK:'' https://gitlab.gnome.org/robert.ancell/gnome-software/tree/header-artwork 
  * ''LINK:'' https://gitlab.gnome.org/robert.ancell/gnome-software/tree/news-page 
  * ''LINK:'' https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/simple-scan/issues/10 

=== rls-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-bugs" started at 13:51.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/1743216 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/1743216 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1786344 

=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 14:12.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (135)
 * didrocks (42)
 * andyrock (33)
 * oSoMoN (27)
 * tkamppeter (21)
 * Laney (20)
 * ubot5 (19)
 * jibel (16)
 * kenvandine (15)
 * Trevinho (10)
 * gitbot (7)
 * heber (6)
 * dgadomski (5)
 * mpt (4)
 * meetingology (3)
 * popey (2)
 * tjaalton (2)
 * jdstrand (1)
 * jbicha (1)



== Full Log ==


 13:31 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25

 13:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 25 13:31:30 2018 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 13:31 <meetingology> 

 13:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 13:31 <popey> Nicely vague?

 13:31 <andyrock> o/

 13:31 <didrocks> hey

 13:31 <willcooke> popey, +1, thanks

 13:31 <jibel> hi o/

 13:31 <oSoMoN> o/

 13:31 <heber> o/

 13:32 <Laney> Trevinho: please do, I've got other stuff to do, just happened to have an iso around

 13:32 <willcooke> Quick note before we start:  Let's do the usual round-table format today since people are out etc etc.  Also the updates from the last week should be pretty quick

 13:33 <willcooke> PSA: I've invited t_jaalton along to these in future since he's looking after the Xorg stack etc.

 13:33 <willcooke> I think we've got everyone we need, so let's rock on

 13:33 <willcooke> #topic andyrock

 13:33 <andyrock> 1. Sprinting in Bruselles!

 13:33 <andyrock> 2. Several IBus releated issues:

 13:33 <andyrock> 2.1 Investigate if GTK_IM_MODULE can be removed in the wayland session: there

 13:33 <andyrock> are several regressions with the im-wayland.so module, I'm talking with

 13:33 <andyrock> upstream trying to fix them.

 13:33 <andyrock> 2.2 OSK does not show up when running apps with GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus: worked

 13:33 <andyrock> with Carlos to find a partial fix.

 13:33 <andyrock> 2.3 Try to complete the above fix fixing directly Ibus

 13:33 <andyrock> 2.4 Ivestigating some ibus issus on libreoffice

 13:33 <andyrock> 3. Working on a gnome-control-center crash: (LP: #1794276)

 13:33 <andyrock> 4. Debugging a crash when chaning resolution on a 4k VM

 13:33 <andyrock> 5. MP to drop first page from gnome-initial-setup.

 13:33 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1794276 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/gnome-control-center:6:g_assertion_message:g_assertion_message_expr:cc_object_storage_create_dbus_proxy_finish:rfkill_proxy_acquired_cb:g_task_return_now" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794276

 13:34 <andyrock> 6. EOW

 13:34 <willcooke> thanks andyrock

 13:34 <willcooke> You want to mention your new(?) memebership andyrock?

 13:34 <willcooke> ;)

 13:34 <andyrock> I just got it \o/

 13:34 <andyrock> re-got

 13:35 <willcooke> Congrats on re-becoming an Ubuntu memeber :)

 13:35 <Trevinho> Hugs...

 13:35 <andyrock> I'll make sure I'll re-new it this time every year

 13:35 <willcooke> hehe

 13:35 <kenvandine> congrats

 13:35 <didrocks> :p

 13:35 <popey> Congratulations!

 13:35 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski

 13:35 <dgadomski> hey

 13:35 <dgadomski> * waiting for merge of upstream mutter fix to bug #1755490, updated unity-control-center fix

 13:35 <dgadomski> * working on bug #1762391

 13:35 <dgadomski> * checked bug #1793485

 13:35 <ubot5> bug 1755490 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Incorrect information about display shown in unity-control-center" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755490

 13:35 <ubot5> bug 1762391 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "pam_group.so is not evaluated by gnome-terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762391

 13:35 <ubot5> bug 1793485 in imagemagick (Ubuntu Xenial) "segfault in png to gif conversion" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1793485

 13:36 <dgadomski> eof

 13:36 <willcooke> Trevinho, is #1755490 anything you can look at?

 13:37 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski

 13:37 <willcooke> #topic didrocks

 13:37 <didrocks> (some items are pre and post sprint week)

 13:37 <didrocks> * Yaru:

 13:37 <didrocks> - enable future-proofing for shipping a dark theme independently

 13:37 <didrocks> - simplify the build-system, removing our python wrapper to adapt to dynamic theme name (using configure_data meson functionality)

 13:37 <didrocks> - released 18.10.4 (UIF version)

 13:37 <didrocks> - reviewed and did some bug triaging

 13:37 <didrocks> * Updates:

 13:37 <didrocks> - network-manager-applet, gnome-user-docs

 13:37 <didrocks> * Misc:

 13:37 <didrocks> - apport SRU regression investigation and fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1791324. Verified as well the SRU

 13:37 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1791324 in apport (Ubuntu Bionic) "/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk:KeyError:/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk@598:run_argv:run_crashes:run_crash" [Medium,Fix committed]

 13:37 <didrocks> - review Marco's XUbuntuCancel for bionic ttps://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-calculator/+git/gnome-calculator/+merge/354330

 13:37 <didrocks> - New installer investigation, architecture discussion with j_ibel

 13:37 <didrocks> - tracker MIR review

 13:37 <didrocks> - Various discussions at sprint (snap theme transition, initial setup + PoC for update migration, new installer + global team discussion).

 13:37 <didrocks> Remaining bionic rls bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/1790609. Will tackle it next week as time permits (no hurry on that one).

 13:37 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1790609 in evince (Ubuntu Bionic) "Update evince to 3.28.3" [Medium,Triaged]

 13:37 <didrocks> .

 13:38 <willcooke> thanks didrocks

 13:38 <willcooke> #topic jamesh

 13:38 <willcooke> From Brussels Sprint:

 13:38 <willcooke> * Got an agreement on how to move forward with snapd document portal

 13:38 <willcooke> startup: to minimise overhead for systems without portals, we'll

 13:38 <willcooke> record absence of portal services in a file in $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, so

 13:38 <willcooke> "snap run" can avoid connecting to the session bus on future attempts

 13:38 <willcooke> to start an application.  The snapd team has also requested more

 13:38 <willcooke> spread tests covering portal use (including cases of their absence).

 13:38 <willcooke> * Pulse Audio snap policy module: I tested my backport against the

 13:38 <willcooke> snapd-glib that was stuck in the Xenial NEW queue, but ran into a

 13:38 <willcooke> failure case when snapd restarts (one I thought I'm surprised I didn't

 13:38 <willcooke> trigger in my tests on cosmic).  Isolated this into a unit test for

 13:38 <willcooke> snapd-glib, and Robert helped with the fix.  So we'll definitely need

 13:38 <willcooke> a new snapd-glib as a prerequisite for both xenial and bionic

 13:38 <willcooke> backports.

 13:38 <willcooke> * Snapcraft debug symbols: I met with the Snapcraft team to get some

 13:38 <willcooke> feedback on the work I've been doing.  There seemed to be general

 13:38 <willcooke> agreement on the parts I'd got working, and Sergio promised to give

 13:38 <willcooke> some review comments.  There wasn't consensus on a need to collect

 13:38 <willcooke> debug symbols for binaries copied from deb packages, with the thought

 13:38 <willcooke> that these could be located in the main archive at the point we want

 13:38 <willcooke> to analyse a crash.

 13:38 <willcooke> This week:

 13:38 <willcooke> * I've been working on the document portal activation changes, which I

 13:38 <willcooke> want to get pushed through this week.

 13:38 <willcooke> #topic jibel

 13:39 <jibel> hi

 13:39 <jibel> - Updating slidedeck on the new installer following presentation last week to Foundations and server team

 13:39 <jibel> - Debugged (lack of) installation of proprietary drivers during image installation

 13:39 <jibel> - Started a Steam snap

 13:39 <jibel> - Cosmic Beta testing. Release planned this Thursday;

 13:39 <jibel> - If you want to help, I posted instructions on the forum in https://community.ubuntu.com/t/cosmic-cuttlefish-18-10-beta-testing/8132

 13:39 <jibel> done

 13:39 <willcooke> thanks jibel

 13:39 <willcooke> #topic heber

 13:39 <heber> hey

 13:40 <heber> * Finished with nvidia testing summary

 13:40 <heber> * Triaged bugs found during nvidia call for testing

 13:40 <heber> *  Started a base project to take screenshots of snaps in desktop using checkbox

 13:40 <heber> EOF

 13:40 <willcooke> thanks eh

 13:40 <willcooke> heber,

 13:40 <willcooke> #topic kenvandine

 13:40 <kenvandine> hey

 13:40 <kenvandine> * gtk-common-themes:

 13:40 <kenvandine> - Added Mint themes which adds just over 90M to the snap size.  Currently working on stripping icons that aren't useful inside an application snap to get the size down.

 13:40 <kenvandine> * snap-store:

 13:40 <kenvandine> - The necessary interfaces are now approved.

 13:40 <kenvandine> * gnome-contacts:

 13:40 <kenvandine> - Converted to a strict snap and necessary interfaces are now approved.

 13:40 <kenvandine> * gnome-calendar:

 13:40 <kenvandine> - Converted to a strict snap and necessary interfaces are now approved.

 13:40 <kenvandine> ⚾

 13:41 <willcooke> thanks kenvandine

 13:41 <oSoMoN> kenvandine, have you seen https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/i-can-not-add-accounts-in-gnome-contacts/7511 ?

 13:41 <kenvandine> yes

 13:41 <kenvandine> i tested that this morning

 13:41 <kenvandine> i'll reply

 13:41 <oSoMoN> ok

 13:41 <willcooke> thx

 13:41 <willcooke> #topic Laney

 13:42 <Laney> • sprint

 13:42 <Laney> • looking at new wallpapers (no community contest this time? also slideshow needs updating 😉)

 13:42 <Laney> • cosmic uploads to unblock things:

 13:42 <Laney> ∘ fixed gvfs tests (just got merged upstream as well)

 13:42 <Laney> ∘ fixed n-m tests

 13:42 <Laney> 🚞

 13:43 <willcooke> Laney, slideshow is on my list.  Let's see if we can upload a wallpaper and then I'll get on with it (once I can log in again)

 13:43 <willcooke> how do you feel about uploading a JPG version?

 13:43 <Laney> quite bad

 13:43 <Laney> but I guess we have to

 13:43 <Laney> got a pkg with that in

 13:44 <willcooke> you want me to upload anything to the bug?

 13:44 <Laney> nah

 13:44 <willcooke> oki, thanks Laney

 13:44 <willcooke> Poke me when it's there and I will refresh the slideshow

 13:44 <willcooke> No significant changes (again) just new screenshots

 13:44 <Laney> it's going to be that image

 13:44 <Laney> I don't think you need to wait for the upload per se

 13:45 <willcooke> roger roger

 13:45 <Laney> but ya should get it done today

 13:45 <willcooke> I will crack on

 13:45 <willcooke> thanks

 13:45 <willcooke> #topic oSoMoN

 13:45 <oSoMoN> hey

 13:45 <oSoMoN> • firefox

 13:45 <oSoMoN> - updated branding at https://launchpad.net/firefox

 13:45 <oSoMoN> - prepared and tested 62.0.2 update in a PPA, waiting for feedback from Chris before I upload to cosmic, and I will then proceed to prepare the updates for bionic, xenial and trusty

 13:45 <oSoMoN> - working on building the beta branch (63) on cosmic

 13:45 <oSoMoN> • chromium

 13:45 <oSoMoN> - updated stable to 69.0.3497.100

 13:45 <oSoMoN> - debugged bug #1738164 with jd_strand and kyro_fa, made some progress but couldn't get to the bottom of it yet

 13:45 <ubot5> bug 1738164 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] U2F doesn't work with yubikey" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1738164

 13:45 <oSoMoN> - discussed with stakeholders how to migrate user profile when transitioning from deb to snap, a new interface called dotfiles is in the works (https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5845) and should help, need to test it and provide feedback

 13:45 <oSoMoN> - successfully built chromium snap from source on armhf and arm64

 13:45 <gitbot> snapcore issue (Pull request) 5845 in snapd "interface: add new dotfiles interface" [Open]

 13:46 <oSoMoN> • libreoffice

 13:46 <oSoMoN> - verified 1:6.0.6-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 SRU in bionic-proposed, released to bionic-updates

 13:46 <oSoMoN> - updated LO to 6.1.1 (bug #1792894), now in cosmic

 13:46 <ubot5> bug 1792894 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Update to 6.1.1" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1792894

 13:46 <oSoMoN> - updated snap to 6.1.1, promoted to stable channel

 13:46 <oSoMoN> • other

 13:46 <oSoMoN> - submitted https://gitlab.com/apparmor/apparmor/merge_requests/198 to fix bug #1792648, got nacked and submitted https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/evince/merge_requests/1 instead, which was merged and will make its way to the next evince update in debian (3.30.1, scheduled this week) which we will then need to sync in ubuntu

 13:46 <ubot5> bug 1792648 in evince (Ubuntu) "Can't preview document in evince - Ubuntu 18.10 Failed to execute child process (Permission Denied)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1792648

 13:46 <gitbot> AppArmor issue (Merge request) 198 in apparmor "Allow executing the gio-launch-desktop helper." [Closed]

 13:46 <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 1 in evince "Allow executing the gio-launch-desktop helper." [Merged]

 13:46 <oSoMoN> - filed and investigated bug #1794064

 13:46 <ubot5> bug 1794064 in evince (Ubuntu) "Clicking a hyperlink in a PDF fails to open it if the default browser is a snap" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794064

 13:46 <oSoMoN> 🍟🍺

 13:46 <willcooke> hehe

 13:46 <willcooke> thanks oSoMoN

 13:47 <willcooke> #topic tjaalton

 13:47 <tjaalton> yay

 13:47 <willcooke> Hey tjaalton, anything you need from us, or anything to tell us this week?

 13:48 <tjaalton> nothing out of the ordinary, unblocked x-x-v-amdgpu from proposed today, mesa FFE is almost reviewed, vulkan-* still in NEW

 13:48 <willcooke> tjaalton, shout if we can try to help get things moving

 13:48 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 13:49 <tkamppeter> - ghostscript: Updated to 9.25, regression fix release of 9.24.

 13:49 <tkamppeter> - printing-stack-snap: Solved a lot of problems with the snapd team on the Sprint in Brussels:

 13:49 <tkamppeter> + CUPS snap now checks whether port 631 is busy. If it is not busy it starts CUPS on port 631, otherwise on 10631.

 13:49 <tkamppeter> + cups-browsed startup waits for CUPS startup having selected the port, to assure correct connection of the snap's CUPS and cups-browsed

 13:49 <tkamppeter> + It is not recommended to run both the system's (Debian-package-based) and the snapped CUPS on production systems, but for development setups this is possible.

 13:49 <tkamppeter> + If a system is only running the snap's CUPS, this CUPS is available through port 631 and both Debian-package-based and snapped applications can print on it.

 13:49 <jdstrand> oSoMoN: oh heh, I just commented on bug 1794064

 13:49 <ubot5> bug 1794064 in evince (Ubuntu) "Clicking a hyperlink in a PDF fails to open it if the default browser is a snap" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794064

 13:49 <tkamppeter> + The snap still needs manual connection to Avahi and USB interfaces (on core also to home dir intrerface).

 13:49 <tkamppeter> + Connected to Avahi interface the snapped CUPS finds and sets up IPP (driverless) printers automatically, using its cups-browsed.

 13:49 <tkamppeter> +  Users in "adm" group can do administrative tasks using the command line utilities of the snap (they use the snap's domain socket by default), admin via localhost:631 (system's utilities) does not work.

 13:49 <tkamppeter> + The snap uses now the up-to-date upstream versions: CUPS 2.2.8, cups-filters 1.21.2, and to fulfill the dependencies of cups-filters QPDF (8.2.1) is nowalso included.

 13:49 <tkamppeter> + Cleaned up warnings in snap build process

 13:49 <tkamppeter> + Updated README.md

 13:49 <tkamppeter> + Planned Next steps:

 13:49 <tkamppeter> o Automatic connection of all interfaces ([Request](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/request-printing-stack-snap-auto-connection-to-avahi-control-raw-usb-and-home-interfaces/))

 13:49 <tkamppeter> o Addition of ippusbxd for auto-setup of driverless USB printers (Needs support for [systemd templates](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/feature-request-support-for-systemd-templates)).

 13:49 <tkamppeter> o If possible/needed: Have "lpadmin" group for administrative tasks (Thread: [Multiple users and groups in snaps](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/multiple-users-and-groups-in-snaps/))

 13:49 <tkamppeter> o Get admin via localhost:631 to work (Thread: [User authentication in snapd](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/user-authentication-in-snapd/))

 13:49 <tkamppeter> See:

 13:49 <tkamppeter> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/developer-sprint-sep-17th-2018/7336/46?u=till.kamppeter

 13:49 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2018: Continuing mentoring the students for completing their work.

 13:50 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.

 13:50 <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter, great work on the snap

 13:51 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho

 13:51 <Trevinho> · Joined the Ubuntu sprint in Brussels, did good plannings for future

 13:51 <Trevinho> · Some fixes on meson and gtk-doc integration:

 13:51 <Trevinho> - https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/pull/4214

 13:51 <Trevinho> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk-doc/merge_requests/7

 13:51 <Trevinho> · Wrote a g-s extension to add search provider to web search through the default browser

 13:51 <Trevinho> · Fixed a desktop helper regression

 13:51 <Trevinho> - https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/155

 13:51 <Trevinho> · Some mutter 3.28 cherry-picks

 13:51 <Trevinho> 🍟

 13:51 <gitbot> mesonbuild issue (Pull request) 4214 in meson "Gtk docs improvements" [Open]

 13:51 <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 7 in gtk-doc "gtkdoc-scangobj: support double quotes in flags and multiple flags parameters" [Opened]

 13:51 <gitbot> ubuntu issue (Pull request) 155 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "desktop-exports: don't break cycle overriding variables" [Closed]

 13:51 <oSoMoN> thanks jdstrand

 13:51 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho

 13:51 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 13:51 <willcooke> - Brussels sprint!

 13:51 <willcooke> - Implemented initial support for header artwork in gnome-software

 13:51 <willcooke> https://gitlab.gnome.org/robert.ancell/gnome-software/tree/header-artwork

 13:51 <willcooke> - Implemented initial support for new page in gnome-software

 13:51 <willcooke> https://gitlab.gnome.org/robert.ancell/gnome-software/tree/news-page

 13:51 <willcooke> - Implemented updated simple-scan design in

 13:51 <willcooke> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/simple-scan/issues/10

 13:51 <gitbot> GNOME issue 10 in simple-scan "Indicate text/photo page/feeder in the scan button" [1. Feature, Closed]

 13:51 <willcooke> - simple-scan 3.30.1 release

 13:51 <willcooke> #topic rls-bugs

 13:52 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 13:52 <willcooke> jibel, is your bug tagged for the rls yet?

 13:52 <willcooke> Bugs on the list seem to all be assigned

 13:53 <willcooke> This one could use a person assigning

 13:53 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/1743216

 13:53 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1743216 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "perl crashed with SIGABRT in _dbus_abort()" [High,Confirmed]

 13:53 <Laney> they should be nominated to accept them

 13:53 <willcooke> for xdg-utils

 13:53 <jibel> willcooke, not yet, cannot find a way to reproduce

 13:54 <willcooke> Laney, let's check them now...

 13:54 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/1743216

 13:54 <andyrock> regarding this http://launchpad.net/bugs/1786344

 13:54 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1786344 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Default IBus input method ignored in live session" [High,In progress]

 13:54 <andyrock> is it really necessary? it's not a regression

 13:55 <willcooke> andyrock, stand by a mo, let's get this xdg-utils one sorted first

 13:55 <andyrock> kk

 13:55 <willcooke> xdg-screensaver?!

 13:55 <Laney> it does seem like a fairly common crash

 13:56 <willcooke> yeah, just looked at e.u.c

 13:56 <willcooke> Ok, anyone want to take a look at that one?

 13:56 <Laney> can do

 13:57 <willcooke> thank you

 13:57 <jibel> willcooke, bug 1792932 was on the cc-incoming bug list but has been duplicated

 13:57 <ubot5> bug 1432137 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1792932 Xorg crashed due to assertion failure "!global_keys[type].created" in dixRegisterPrivateKey" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1432137

 13:57 <jibel> it's a crash on vbox.

 13:58 <willcooke> one moment. lets get through the first list

 13:58 <willcooke> k, andyrock you're up

 13:58 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1786344

 13:58 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1786344 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Default IBus input method ignored in live session" [High,In progress]

 13:58 <willcooke> You feel it's not a rls blocker?

 13:58 <andyrock> indeed

 13:58 <andyrock> it was a regression before

 13:59 <andyrock> but now the behaviour is the same as before

 13:59 <andyrock> it makes sense to fix it, but not sure it should be marked as a rls bug

 13:59 <didrocks> basically, people starting the live session can't input chinese?

 13:59 <didrocks> and we told that was ok for bionic, is that it?

 14:00 <andyrock> didrocks: they can, they just need to select "Simpliefied Chinese" from the keyboard menu

 14:00 <andyrock> when they opened the bug even doing that was not enough

 14:00 <didrocks> ah, so it's really "only" the default method which isn't set properly

 14:00 <andyrock> yep

 14:00 <andyrock> and we never did that

 14:00 <willcooke> Ah I see

 14:01 <andyrock> so I'm ok fixing it but it should not be in that list

 14:01 <willcooke> ok, then I'd say yes we should "fix" it, but not a rls bug

 14:01 <willcooke> any +1 / -1 ?

 14:01 <andyrock> +1

 14:01 <didrocks> I think it's an important feature we should fix, but we have bigger fish to tackle and as long as it's fixed anyway… Don't care about blocking or not

 14:01 <willcooke> didrocks, any feelings? ^

 14:01 <willcooke> oosp

 14:02 <willcooke> Laney?

 14:02 <andyrock> btw I'll check again

 14:02 <didrocks> andyrock: if you need help with casper to pre-setting the correct keys, I can give you some hands

 14:02 <andyrock> didrocks: kk

 14:03 <willcooke> andyrock, oki, I think you can untag it then, but keep us posted (pending L_aney's view)

 14:03 <willcooke> next:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+bug/1790146

 14:03 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1790146 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) "Update Welcome page for Ubuntu 18.10" [High,In progress]

 14:03 <Laney> notfixing would be ok I guess

 14:04 <Laney> yes, g-i-s is rls imho

 14:04 <Laney> one of us should review that branch

 14:04 <willcooke> agreed

 14:04 <willcooke> but updated, please can someone review the branch

 14:04 <didrocks> will do

 14:04 <willcooke> andyrock - poke people if you dont get a review

 14:04 <willcooke> nice one ,thanks didrocks

 14:05 <willcooke> next: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/1792648

 14:05 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1792648 in evince (Ubuntu) "Can't preview document in evince - Ubuntu 18.10 Failed to execute child process (Permission Denied)" [High,In progress]

 14:05 <willcooke> oSoMoN

 14:05 <andyrock> thk didrocks

 14:05 <willcooke> (reading)

 14:05 <oSoMoN> that's fixed in debian and pending an updated package, which we will then sync

 14:06 <willcooke> Should it block release?

 14:06 <oSoMoN> it's a regression, it probably should

 14:06 <oSoMoN> alternatively I could cherry-pick the fix in ubuntu if we want it earlier

 14:06 <oSoMoN> but j_bicha said there'd be a 3.30.1 evince release this week

 14:06 <jbicha> *might be*

 14:07 <willcooke> we can hold off for a little while and see what happens

 14:07 <willcooke> if no release, we have our plan B

 14:07 <oSoMoN> cherry-picking is easy enough

 14:07 <willcooke> k, updated

 14:07 <willcooke> jibel, you're up

 14:07 <willcooke> there is a bug missing from the lsit?

 14:07 <willcooke> ist

 14:07 <willcooke> list

 14:08 <jibel> bug 1792932 happening on vbox

 14:08 <ubot5> bug 1432137 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1792932 Xorg crashed due to assertion failure "!global_keys[type].created" in dixRegisterPrivateKey" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1432137

 14:08 <jibel> the image doesn boot

 14:08 <jibel> or rather boots to a black scren

 14:08 <jibel> +e

 14:09 <willcooke> jibel, sounds like a blocker to me then :)

 14:09 <willcooke> jibel, should it be assigned to you for now?

 14:10 <willcooke> and is it something t_jaalton can help with?

 14:10 <jibel> willcooke, not me, not much I can do

 14:10 <willcooke> k, tjaalton - can we ask you to look at this one? ^

 14:11 <willcooke> bug 1432137

 14:11 <ubot5> bug 1432137 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg crashed due to assertion failure "!global_keys[type].created" in dixRegisterPrivateKey" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1432137

 14:12 * willcooke assumes the answer will be yes

 14:12 <willcooke> #topic AOB

 14:12 <didrocks> :p

 14:12 <willcooke> Anyone got anything?

 14:12 <kenvandine> not me

 14:12 <didrocks> on Yaru team and mpt opening bugs on their repo, here are some of their reactions: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/communitheme-progress/5924/9

 14:13 <didrocks> (from this topic to the next one)

 14:13 * mpt waves

 14:13 <didrocks> hey mpt ;)

 14:13 <didrocks> I suggest that for being good citizen, we should get those bugs opened against Suru

 14:13 <didrocks> then, we can modify them if Sam doesn't agree to fix them

 14:13 <mpt> I’ve opened one, I will do the rest

 14:13 <didrocks> thanks mpt!

 14:14 <mpt> (I just didn’t have time today)

 14:14 <didrocks> mpt: do you mind linking Suru to "downstream/Yaru ones"?

 14:14 <didrocks> so that we can check the individual status

 14:14 <didrocks> and see if it's a NACK upstream, we just go our way

 14:14 <mpt> Yep

 14:14 <didrocks> thx a lot mpt!

 14:14 <willcooke> didrocks, fwiw - I agree with your point - we can fix these in the future, and snap users will get the fixes sooner

 14:14 <didrocks> mpt: however, I doubt most of the changes will happen in cosmic IMHO (due to remainining time and UIF)

 14:14 <didrocks> exactly!

 14:15 <didrocks> only cosmic would be "frozen in look"

 14:15 <willcooke> +1

 14:15 <didrocks> thanks mpt, willcooke

 14:15 <willcooke> in 9 months time it won't matter :)

 14:15 <didrocks> yep

 14:15 <willcooke> just enough time to have a baby

 14:15 <didrocks> (was just thinking the same, time flies…)

 14:16 <didrocks> that's it for me

 14:16 <willcooke> any more for any more?

 14:16 <willcooke> Going once

 14:16 <willcooke> twice

 14:16 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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