== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-14, 14 Aug at 13:31 — 14:04 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-08-14-13.31.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === andyrock === The discussion about "andyrock" started at 13:32. === dgadomski === The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 13:33. === duflu === The discussion about "duflu" started at 13:35. === heber === The discussion about "heber" started at 13:37. === jamesh === The discussion about "jamesh" started at 13:37. === jibel === The discussion about "jibel" started at 13:40. === kenvandine === The discussion about "kenvandine" started at 13:40. === laney === The discussion about "laney" started at 13:42. === oSoMoN === The discussion about "oSoMoN" started at 13:44. === robert_ancell === The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 13:45. === robert_ancell === The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 13:46. === seb128 === The discussion about "seb128" started at 13:47. === tkamppeter === The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 13:48. === rls === The discussion about "rls" started at 13:49. * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html# * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html# === Trevinho === The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 13:54. * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1714178 is for TImo * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1769654 is for oSoMoN, just missing the assignment on one component, I'm fixing that * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/amd/+bug/1770271 is for Timo * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/1766890 is for Julian, doing that * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1782152 is assigned * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1782285 for Timp * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1782681 for Marco === aob === The discussion about "aob" started at 14:03. == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * jibel (123) * seb128 (36) * oSoMoN (22) * ubot5 (21) * Laney (21) * andyrock (20) * Trevinho (11) * kenvandine (9) * heber (5) * meetingology (3) * willcooke (1) == Full Log == 13:31 #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-14 13:31 Meeting started Tue Aug 14 13:31:20 2018 UTC. The chair is jibel. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:31 13:31 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:31 hey hey 13:31 Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 13:31 🐵/ 13:32 hey 13:32 #topic andyrock 13:32 hey 13:32 o/ 13:32 - Gnome-shell: 13:32 * Updated MR https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/162 following upstrea review 13:32 - Gnome-Online-Accounts: 13:32 * Investigating if it’s possible to use login.ubuntu.com webpage in the login dialog. I’ve some idea on how to do this, but I’ll need to talk with upstream to discuss API changes 13:32 - Gnome-Initial-Setup: 13:32 * MR to upload to 3.29.1 13:32 * MR to include fix for LP: #1764723 that has never been uploaded in repos 13:32 * MR to add the online accounts page to the ubuntu wizard 13:32 Launchpad bug 1764723 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-initial-setup says that Livepatch is "all set" even if enabling is still in progress." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764723 13:32 - 3.28 -> 3.29: 13:32 * Gtk3 in debian experimental (merged) 13:32 * gtk3 for cosmic (wip) 13:32 * gnome-calculator in debian experimental (waiting for review) 13:32 * Gnome-disk-utility in debian experimental (waiting for review) 13:32 - Reviews: 13:32 * https://code.launchpad.net/~muktupavels/compiz/ccsm-python3/+merge/351940/+index?ss=1 13:32 - Livepatch: 13:32 * Started the work to add a reminder in update-manager 13:33 EOW 13:33 Thanks 13:33 #topic dgadomski 13:34 andyrock, I'm looking at your items waiting for review today/tomorrow 13:35 no dgadomski_, didrocks is on holidays, next is 13:35 #topic duflu 13:35 * Gnome Shell performance: 13:35 - Work in progress again: GPU-less picking support: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/189 13:35 - Proposed a Debian update https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/merge_requests/13 from 13:35 . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/117 13:35 . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/168 13:35 . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/171 13:35 * PulseAudio: 13:35 - Version 12.2 released to cosmic (thanks Seb): 13:35 . https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/1:12.2-0ubuntu1 13:35 . https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/1:12.2-0ubuntu2 13:35 * Hardware video decoding: 13:35 - Upgraded mpv to version 0.29.0 from Debian: 13:35 . Merged and rewrote the Ubuntu hardware acceleration fixes to work with it. 13:35 . Now awaiting sponsorship: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785993 13:35 Ubuntu bug 1785993 in mpv (Ubuntu) "Please merge mpv 0.29 from Debian" [Medium,In progress] 13:36 * Recent Cosmic regressions: 13:36 - Presently trying to figure out what went wrong with gdm3/mutter updates this week (help!?): 13:36 . https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786883 13:36 Ubuntu bug 1786883 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[regression] Login screen flickers to black a few times on boot and then finally settles on using Xorg instead of Wayland. No Wayland login option." [High,New] 13:36 . https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786872 13:36 Ubuntu bug 1786872 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "[regression] Cosmic login screen never appears on about 50% of boots" [High,Confirmed] 13:36 * Daily bug management: 13:36 - Finished revising a couple hundred more artful bugs and set most on a course to close in October. 13:36 - Two noteworthy packages whose backlogs have reversed by a year's worth recently: 13:36 . firefox (paulw2u) 13:36 . xorg (duflu) 13:36 - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive 13:36 Thanks duflu 13:37 #topic heber 13:37 hey! 13:37 * Fixing utah desktop tests. 13:37 * Start preparing nvidia testing plan 13:37 EOF 13:37 Thanks heber 13:37 #topic jamesh 13:38 pulseaudio: 13:38 * The 1:12.2-0ubuntu2 release with the new Snap policy module is now in Cosmic. 13:38 * Before working on backporting it, jdstrand noticed a problem in the module's 13:38 logic related to classic snaps: 13:38 https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/pulseaudio-recording/6361/14?u=jamesh -- classic 13:38 snapped apps will have an AppArmor label, but may not include plugs for the 13:38 relevant interfaces. This is a relatively simple modification to what I did 13:38 for -0ubuntu2, so we should have a -0ubuntu3 out soon. 13:38 * The policy module needs to be back ported to bionic and xenial. Bionic 13:38 should be trivial, but it is hard to say how hard xenial will be due to the 13:38 version skew. 13:38 fontconfig cache 13:39 * I am investigating why snapped apps are rebuilding fontconfig caches for 13:39 directories that have already been cached. I still don't have a definite 13:39 cause, but the access() calls it makes seems like they can give inaccurate 13:39 results with AppArmor. It needs further investigation. 13:39 For further work, Ken asked me to start looking into the crash reporting 13:39 situation for snaps. The immediate goal is to have something good enough to 13:39 handle the snaps in the default install. But even with that limitation, it 13:39 will require changes in multiple projects. The initial goal is to get 13:39 snapcraft to produce a collection of detached debug symbols matching a snap 13:39 build, and for apport to correctly identify a crash from a snap confined 13:39 process. 13:39 EOW 13:39 Thanks James 13:40 No update for jbicha 13:40 #topic jibel 13:40 - LTS Upgrade: 13:40 - Review and verification of latest release critical bugs. 13:40 - Upgrade enabled on Aug. 13th. 13:40 - Bugs reported so far are due to third party packages blocking the upgrade. 13:40 - Triaged upgrade bugs. 13:40 - Continued the packaging of “Ubuntu Kernel Upgrade Utility” as a snap but slowed down by difficulty to run host binaries from contained binaries on other releases than 16.04 13:40 - Desktop dashboard 13:40 - Added an “Installations and Upgrades” section to the dashboard. 13:40 - Added “Installation media” KPIs to the section. 13:40 - New installer: updated the specification with the feature list of current desktop installer. 13:40 EOW 13:40 #topic kenvandine 13:41 * Working on respinning the hyper-v Ubuntu Desktop image based on 18.04.1 13:41 * Sponsored pulseaudio to cosmic, which adds a call to snapd to separate audio record and playback permissions. 13:41 * Refreshed snaps to pickup fixes. 13:41 * Started looking at what our snapcraft templates will look like, this will replace the desktop helpers remote part. 13:41 ⚾ 13:41 is it a done or you played baseball too? 13:41 :) 13:41 done :) 13:41 Thanks ken! 13:41 i wish i played baseball this week 13:41 :) 13:42 #topic laney 13:42 • Worked with gdm upstream on some bug fixes 13:42 ∘ https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/commit/cf8d918f3dfb2a11ff357275d1d16eaa3f8116c0 13:42 ∘ https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/commit/8169cd4fc83beb5c3835a6ee1fafc6911a887a81 13:42 ∘ & uploaded new release to cosmic 13:42 • Prepared 3.28.3 for bionic & unstable, left for dgadomski or slashd to rebase their MP and upload 13:42 • Working with mutter upstream on a crash bug when using nvidia proprietary drivers 13:42 ∘ https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/198 13:42 • Some work on ongoing transitions 13:42 • Updated trashing on overlayfs glib patch following upstream reviews, committed now 13:42 ∘ https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/commit/1152d99dedd8f5105c81745d8a91fa660de736c9 13:42 • Prepared libsoup2.4, gtk+3.0, glib-networking for exp, hopefully someone will sponsor or else I'll need to upload to cosmic 13:42 just ate: 🍞🥑🥚 #millennial 13:43 Gastronerd! 13:43 actually gtk3 was a review for andyrock, that line is inaccurate 13:43 Laney, I can sponsor some of those (maybe not all today, already reviewing ones from andyroc_k first) 13:44 k thx 13:44 Thanks Laney 13:44 #topic oSoMoN 13:44 hey 13:44 • firefox 13:44 ∘ investigated speech dispatcher support, created trello card as further work is needed (https://trello.com/c/qqj9KKS5/200-add-speech-dispatcher-support-to-desktop-browser-snaps) 13:44 • chromium 13:44 ∘ bug triaging 13:44 ∘ focus on transitioning to a snap-only chromium 13:44 - now building the snap from source with embedded clang, not the one from the distro 13:44 - replaced "Ubuntu" token by "snap" in UA string 13:44 - successfully tested headless mode 13:44 - currently building an i386 snap (only tested on amd64 until now) 13:44 ∘ updated stable to 68.0.3440.106 13:44 ∘ updated beta to 69.0.3497.32 13:44 ∘ updated dev to 70.0.3514.0 13:44 • libreoffice 13:44 ∘ bug triaging 13:44 ∘ promoted 6.1.0 snap to the stable channel, then rebuilt to pick up an openjdk security update 13:44 ∘ reviewed and acked MIR requests for libzmf and libstaroffice (bug #1717926 and bug #1717930) 13:44 bug 1717926 in libzmf (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libzmf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717926 13:44 bug 1717930 in libstaroffice (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libstaroffice" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717930 13:44 ∘ prepared 6.0.6 SRU for bionic (bug #1785679), this is blocked on the SRU of fonts-liberation and fonts-liberation2 (bug #1769654), currently in the unapproved queue 13:44 bug 1785679 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] libreoffice 6.0.6 for bionic" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785679 13:44 bug 1769654 in fonts-liberation2 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Ubuntu 18.04 embedded fonts Liberation have corrupted metrics" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769654 13:44 • gnome-software: 13:44 ∘ updated patch that disables offline updates against master (https://gitlab.gnome.org/oSoMoN/gnome-software/commit/7a8d2df057d7d52a44d51aaa49a3653da2b33048) 13:45 🌦 13:45 Thanks oSoMoN 13:45 speaking for gnome-software, the current SRU needs to be verified 13:45 #topic robert_ancell 13:45 to unblocked the next one 13:45 sorry go ahead seb128 13:45 well ^ 13:46 jibel, heber, maybe you can help with that? 13:46 seb128, sure we'll have a look 13:46 thx 13:46 #topic robert_ancell 13:46 - SRU gnome-control-center fix to 18.04 LTS (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1779051) 13:46 - Diagnosing why gnome-software tests fail on Ubuntu 13:46 - Made packaging update for appstream-glib 0.7.11 - passed to Debian for sponsorship 13:46 - Diagnose why no languages were showing in gnome-control-center (turned out to be https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-desktop/commit/d5d4d7ee7222cba873dddc20b65189e77f9723e2), update cosmic to have that fix. 13:46 Ubuntu bug 1779051 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Bionic) "/usr/bin/gnome-control-center:11:gtk_container_remove:update_output_settings:on_amplify_changed:g_closure_invoke:signal_emit_unlocked_R" [Medium,Fix committed] 13:47 - simple-scan 3.29.91 release 13:47 - Attended GNOME Software stakeholders meeting 13:47 - Worked on patch to update design in region settings panel 13:47 - Investigated bugs in region settings panel (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786880, https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786881) 13:47 EOW 13:47 Ubuntu bug 1786880 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Changing language doesn't show previously selected language" [Medium,In progress] 13:47 Thanks Robert 13:47 Ubuntu bug 1786881 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Languages always shown with English names" [Medium,In progress] 13:47 #topic seb128 13:47 • versions script improvements, added a new "blocked version" status, added a columns for comments, cleaned up some deprecated components and tagged some other ones 13:47 • sponsored gnome-disk-utility/file-roller/gnome-initial-setup updates from Andy to Debian 13:47 • updated bolt to 0.4 for cosmic & bionic 13:47 • backport udisks2 fixes for test issues on s390x 13:47 • updated gnome-bluetooth and gtksourceview3 through Debian 13:47 • discussed a bit livepatch/desktop improvements 13:47 13:48 Thank seb128 13:48 #topic tkamppeter 13:48 - Ghostscript: Updated to upstream version 9.23, needed to do several tests to make it building on ppc64el. But when I had found the solution, I found out that someone else fixed it in parallel. 13:48 - CUPS, cups-filters, HPLIP, Gutenprint: Synced current versions from Debian Unstable and Experimental. 13:48 - cpdb-libs, cpdb-backend-cups: Sent another e-mail to doko to chase after the MIRs. 13:48 - Google Summer of Code 2018: Mentoring of the students on Common Print Dialog Backends and printer auto-selection by job. Worked out the last steps with the students, checked their final reports. Student's final report deadline is today. 13:48 - Bugs. 13:48 done 13:48 Thanks Till 13:49 #topic rls 13:49 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html# 13:49 nothing for desktop 13:49 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html# 13:49 jibel: you missed me? 13:50 Trevinho, apparently so, sorry 13:50 lets finish with the rls bugs and go back to you 13:50 only bug 1552792 in the tracking ones, anyone any comment ? 13:50 bug 1552792 in packagekit (Ubuntu Cosmic) "gnome software leaves dependencies installed" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1552792 13:51 I talked to Robert about that one 13:51 he has the fix for cosmic and said it needs testing before being SRUed if we want it 13:51 which I guess means "it's on track" 13:51 I can test in cosmic 13:51 that bug should be assigned 13:52 oh it is 13:52 shouldn't it be fixed committed or released in cosmic ? 13:53 nevermind I'll talk to robert for testing in cosmic 13:53 if it is one of those then it should 13:53 anything else on rls bugs ? 13:54 #topic Trevinho 13:54 - Off last week, so spent some time for the backlog 13:54 - Some rework on g-s crash fix https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/190 13:54 - Preparing new shell landing with yaru and new merge on debian 13:54 - Some SRU discussions, got in dock and shell for bionic 13:54 - A review and cherry pick on mutter 13:54 - Some telegram snap maintainance 13:54 - Heading back to Italy this night 13:54 🌃 13:54 what about b? 13:55 Thanks Trevinho 13:56 Laney, what about b? the list of incoming is empty and tracking is very long. http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html# 13:56 well we listed cc-incoming even though it was empty 13:57 and not sure a list being long means it should be skipped 13:57 but 🤷 13:57 we settled on reviewing the unassigned one unless they are fix commited 13:57 Those not fixed in cosmic and in bb should be tagged cc, those fixed in cosmic and worth an SRU tagged bb and anything else removed IMHO 13:58 I'm assigning https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1713581 to marco 13:58 Ubuntu bug 1713581 in nautilus (Ubuntu Bionic) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_fundamentally_a()" [Undecided,New] 13:59 that's fixed in c, no? And sru in progress 13:59 right, the bug reflects that now :) 13:59 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1714178 is for TImo 13:59 Ubuntu bug 1714178 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Triple 4K monitor display failed (modesetting driver)" [Medium,Triaged] 14:00 kenvandine, can you get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1742997 assigned? 14:00 Ubuntu bug 1742997 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Newly installed applications are not showing in "Installed"" [Undecided,New] 14:00 oSoMoN commented on it 14:00 but maybe for robert? 14:00 i'll look 14:00 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1769654 is for oSoMoN, just missing the assignment on one component, I'm fixing that 14:00 Ubuntu bug 1769654 in fonts-liberation2 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Ubuntu 18.04 embedded fonts Liberation have corrupted metrics" [Undecided,In progress] 14:01 https://bugs.launchpad.net/amd/+bug/1770271 is for Timo 14:01 Ubuntu bug 1770271 in linux (Ubuntu) "VegaM support" [Undecided,Triaged] 14:01 kenvandine, thx 14:01 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/1766890 is for Julian, doing that 14:01 Ubuntu bug 1766890 in gnome-menus (Ubuntu) "package gnome-menus 3.13.3-6ubuntu3.1 failed to install/upgrade: triggers looping, abandoned" [Critical,Confirmed] 14:02 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1782152 is assigned 14:02 Ubuntu bug 1782152 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Bionic) "GDM blocks SIGUSR1 used in PAM scripts" [Medium,In progress] 14:02 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1782285 for Timp 14:02 Ubuntu bug 1782285 in libglvnd (Ubuntu Bionic) "Add missing libGLESv1_CM.so to Bionic" [Undecided,New] 14:02 Timo 14:02 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1782681 for Marco 14:02 Ubuntu bug 1782681 in nautilus (Ubuntu Bionic) "Upgrade to 3.26.4 and SRU it" [Undecided,New] 14:02 and I think that's it? 14:02 jibel, sorry, I sort of took over for those :p back to you 14:02 seb128, np, it's perfect this way :) 14:03 #topic aob 14:04 (no other topic from me) 14:04 sounds like a nothing, thanks everyone for attending! 14:04 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)