13:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-07-03
13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul  3 13:30:02 2018 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:30 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks (out), duflu (out), jbicha (out?), jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney,seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
13:30 <andyrock> o/
13:30 <Laney> |o|
13:31 <Trevinho> o/
13:31 <willcooke> Laney is a tie fighter today
13:31 <kenvandine> \o
13:31 <seb128> hey
13:31 <alexm_> ho
13:31 <jibel> o/
13:32 <willcooke> I've got didiers report, so we have enough people to start I think
13:32 <willcooke> #topic andyrock
13:32 <andyrock> -Gnome-Shell
13:32 <andyrock> - Keybindings:
13:32 <andyrock> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/373
13:32 <andyrock> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/372
13:32 <andyrock> - OSK:
13:32 <andyrock> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/109
13:32 <andyrock> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/171
13:32 <andyrock> - Extended key not activated if mouse is never released
13:32 <andyrock> - Gnome-Software:
13:32 <andyrock> - Review https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/merge_requests/56
13:32 <andyrock> - Sun Sprint! :D
13:32 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue 373 in gnome-shell "Some keybindings should discard auto-repeat events" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:32 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue 372 in gnome-shell "Keeping Alt+Space pressed shows the window menu and then minimizes the window" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:32 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue 109 in gnome-shell "Extended characters in OSK don't get entered" (comments: 16) [Opened]
13:32 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue 171 in gnome-shell "On screen keyboard closes itself while browsing the language menu" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:32 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 56 in gnome-software "gs-shell: Remove app menu" (comments: 2) [Opened]
13:32 <andyrock> eow
13:32 <willcooke> thanks andyrock!  Busy busy busy
13:33 <willcooke> #topic didrocks
13:33 <willcooke> oh
13:33 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
13:33 <dgadomski> hey
13:33 <dgadomski> looking into some problems in PAM-GDM interaction after migrating setup from Xenial to Bionic, no lp bug for that one yet
13:33 <dgadomski> eof
13:33 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
13:33 <willcooke> #topic didrocks
13:34 <willcooke> * .1 work (apport/whoopsie/update-notifier)
13:34 <willcooke> - found a new issue that even if apport was in autosend or never send mode, it still triggers the UI. Fixing involved and update-notifier patch as well as apport.
13:34 <willcooke> - incrementally fixed apport and update-notifier after an issue found by j_ibel (thanks!)
13:34 <willcooke> - upload apport with new UI and behavior in cosmic, update-notifier fixes in both cosmic and -proposed. Next plan is to backport apport fixes in -proposed once we got enough feedback for cosmic + email maintainers.
13:34 <willcooke> - the apport MP still needs to be reviewed upstream: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/apport/whoopsie-auto-ui/+merge/348479
13:34 <willcooke> * Telemetry:
13:34 <willcooke> - discuss latest metrics and review with j_ibel
13:34 <willcooke> * Communitheme:
13:34 <willcooke> - have a strategy (package-based) for 18.10
13:34 <willcooke> - propose and discuss merging all sources into a single one: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/merging-repositories-into-a-single-one/6769
13:34 <willcooke> - remove symbolic icons from appmenu: https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-communitheme/pull/218
13:34 <gitlab-bot> ubuntu issue (Pull request) 218 in gnome-shell-communitheme "Don't use symbolic icons for appmenu" (comments: 2) [Closed]
13:34 <willcooke> - continuing following up upstream discussions and giving advice
13:34 <willcooke> * GUADEC:
13:34 <willcooke> - outline and prepare slide for "Unity to GNOME Shell" presentation
13:34 <willcooke> - prepare the trip
13:34 <willcooke> #topic duflu
13:35 <willcooke> * Gnome Shell: Great progress this week. Authored and updated:
13:35 <willcooke> - Performance: Implemented hardware presentation timing for Wayland sessions: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/144
13:35 <willcooke> - Performance: Fixed related docs: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/143
13:35 <willcooke> - Performance: Completed tangential fix to unblock other performance branches: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/142
13:35 <willcooke> - Performance: Significantly reduced missed frames and stutter for Xorg: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/145 (and Wayland when combined with 144)
13:35 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 144 in mutter "renderer-native: Implement FrameInfo for KMS [performance]" (comments: 2) [Opened]
13:35 <willcooke> - Visual correctness & performance: Zoom and general rendering fix: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/117
13:35 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 143 in mutter "Fix docs for cogl_frame_info_get_frame_counter" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:35 <willcooke> - Unfortunately I am now responsible for a quarter of mutter merge requests and none of them are progressing at the moment. I think because several Gnome people have been and will be traveling for a while.
13:35 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 142 in mutter "clutter-text: Avoid clipping the wrong framebuffer" (comments: 5) [Opened]
13:35 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 145 in mutter "WIP: clutter-stage-cogl: Avoid missed frames & stutter [performance]" (comments: 8) [Opened]
13:35 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 117 in mutter "clutter: Fix offscreen-effect painting of clones [performance]" (comments: 19) [Opened]
13:35 <willcooke> * HELP wanted with some blockages:
13:35 <willcooke> - GJS update awaiting Debian packaging: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778660
13:35 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1778660 in gjs (Ubuntu) "Upgrade gjs to version 1.53.3" [Undecided,Confirmed]
13:35 <willcooke> - (blocked and fixed by the above) Gnome Shell leaks fix: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1672297
13:35 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1672297 in gjs (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-shell uses lots of memory, and grows over time" [Critical,In progress]
13:35 <willcooke> - [MIR] libsoxr pending desktop team approval: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1702558
13:35 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1702558 in libsoxr (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libsoxr" [Undecided,Incomplete]
13:35 <willcooke> - (blocked by the above) PulseAudio 12.0 major upgrade: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778178
13:35 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1778178 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to PulseAudio 12.0" [Wishlist,In progress]
13:35 <willcooke> - BlueZ SRU for bionic awaiting sponsorship: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759628
13:35 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1759628 in Suse " bluez regression: Bluetooth audio fails to reconnect after resume " [Medium,Fix released]
13:35 <willcooke> * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.
13:35 <willcooke> - Mostly good steady progress.
13:35 <willcooke> - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive
13:35 <willcooke> #topic jbicha
13:35 <willcooke> jbicha, around?
13:36 <willcooke> I'll assume not, and move on.  Can come back
13:36 <willcooke> #topic jamesh
13:36 <willcooke> snapd/portals:
13:36 <willcooke> - On the question of what to do with systems with old
13:36 <willcooke> xdg-desktop-portal versions, there seems to be agreement on using an
13:36 <willcooke> RPM spec file dependency check on OpenSUSE, so hopefully we can get
13:36 <willcooke> the document portal activation branch merged this week.
13:36 <willcooke> - There's a new mutter in bionic-proposed now, which fixes portals on
13:36 <willcooke> Wayland sessions (thanks Trevinho!)
13:36 <willcooke> - Still need to look at back porting
13:36 <willcooke> xdg-desktop-portal/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk to xenial.
13:36 <willcooke> - While enough is in place for file open/save support, there are
13:36 <willcooke> problems with some of the other portals that I documented here:
13:36 <willcooke> https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/issues/196 -- I hope to
13:36 <gitlab-bot> flatpak issue 196 in xdg-desktop-portal "Improve snap package support " (comments: 0) [Open]
13:36 <willcooke> discuss further with the portal developers at GUADEC
13:36 <willcooke> snapd/snap-uri-handler:
13:36 <willcooke> - I got a review from Gustavo on this, so I don't forsee much hold up
13:36 <willcooke> from the snapd team.
13:37 <willcooke> - We still need to finalise the package name for the gnome-software
13:37 <willcooke> snap and get it published to the stable channel before merging this
13:37 <willcooke> change.
13:37 <willcooke> - There is also the open issue that a host system provided
13:37 <willcooke> gnome-software can claim to support snap:// URIs even when the plugin
13:37 <willcooke> is not present:
13:37 <willcooke> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/issues/405 -- this could
13:37 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue 405 in gnome-software "gnome-software's desktop file advertises support for URI schemes it may not be able to handle" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:37 <willcooke> lead to uncertain behaviour on some non-Ubuntu distros
13:37 <willcooke> - A Fedora dev also requested that we instead try to install the
13:37 <willcooke> plugin for the host system gnome-software.  That's going to be a
13:37 <willcooke> policy decision though.
13:37 <willcooke> snapd/other:
13:37 <willcooke> - Based on review comments for other proposals, I made a branch fixing
13:37 <willcooke> similar issues in other tests I'd written:
13:37 <willcooke> https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5413 -- unfortunately this
13:37 <gitlab-bot> snapcore issue (Pull request) 5413 in snapd "tests: purge packages installed by accounts, calendar, and contacts interface tests" (comments: 5) [Open]
13:37 <willcooke> seems to trigger problems on Arch.  The remaining issues are really in
13:37 <willcooke> the snapd test infrastructure and don't directly benefit desktop
13:37 <willcooke> tasks, so I'm not sure how much effort is worth spending on it.
13:37 <willcooke> #topic jibel / heber
13:37 <jibel> - SRU verification of gnome-control-center and update-notifier in Bionic.
13:37 <jibel> - Finished work on the dashboard
13:37 <jibel> - Verification of grub and efi fixes in cosmic and validation of the image.
13:37 <jibel> - Fixing automated desktop ISO tests that broke after image builds have been fixed.
13:37 <jibel> - Adding jenkins jobs for snap bluez tests on desktop
13:37 <jibel> done
13:38 <willcooke> thanks jibel
13:38 <willcooke> #topic kenvandine
13:38 <willcooke> kenvandine, around still?
13:38 <kenvandine> * More progress on the snap-only branch of gnome-software, just need to nail down the branding/rename.
13:38 <kenvandine> * Fixed desktop helpers crash when using LD_PRELOAD of bindtextdomain in a classic snap
13:38 <kenvandine> * Updated gnome-contacts snap to use strict confinement, still waiting for snapd with the required interfaces land.
13:38 <kenvandine> * Preparing for GUADEC, leaving today
13:38 <kenvandine> ⚾
13:38 <willcooke> thanks kenvandine
13:38 <willcooke> #topic Laney
13:38 <Laney> second
13:38 <Laney> tomboy is crashing when I paste an emoji
13:39 <willcooke> heh
13:39 <Laney> ok
13:39 <Laney> • 🌄 🏃
13:39 <Laney> • Been submitting MRs to gnome for systemd stuff, got some initial reviews https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/SystemdUser
13:39 <Laney> • Helped T_revinho with his git stuff, moved the branches to ~ubuntu-desktop, need to look at the ones to merge
13:39 <Laney> • Wrote a MP for gnome-shell to expose versioned directories for "stylesheetName" themes https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/133
13:39 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 133 in gnome-shell "theme: Search in versioned directories" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:39 <Laney> • Backported libsoup2.4 CVE fix to Debian & cosmic
13:40 <Laney> • Updated gjs in Debian, just about to sync
13:40 <Laney> • I promised to look again at https://trello.com/c/x71lwFJG/138-track-rls-bug-numbers a week after filing, no movement
13:40 <Laney> • no rls bugs
13:40 <Laney> 🌽
13:40 <willcooke> top emoji work there. 10/10
13:40 <willcooke> thanks Laney
13:40 <willcooke> #topic seb128
13:41 <seb128> • travelled back from the sun-sprint and some post sprint catching up
13:41 <seb128> • uploaded the oem fix for https://launchpad.net/bugs/1683445 to cosmic and bionic (xenial coming next)
13:41 <seb128> • cleaned up the sponsoring queue a bit
13:41 <seb128> • reviewed the work/plans for .1 and cosmic, we are having a slow start on the new cycle work due to the focus on .1 (which was not unexpected, but we should start transitionning now)
13:41 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1683445 in OEM Priority Project "E6430 brightness control not working" [Critical,Confirmed]
13:41 <seb128> • reviewed the changes Didier has been making on the apport stack, good work Didier!
13:41 <seb128> • reverted some libayatana use to unblock transitions in cosmic since that library is not MIRed yet
13:41 <seb128> • debugged n-m-applet failing to build in cosmic, it's due to the n-m changes to drop some of the old libs, looking at resolving that next
13:41 <seb128> </week>
13:41 <seb128> Laney, sorry that the trello board card didn't move Laney
13:41 <seb128> it feels like we are not keeping up with work atm, summer is tough :/
13:41 <seb128> (also I'm travelling on thursday for GUADEC)
13:41 <seb128> that's it from me :p
13:41 <willcooke> thanks seb128
13:42 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
13:42 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Let generated PPD files contain all needed info about the stacking order (face-up/face-down) of the output trays to print in the correct order (first to last or last to first). Made sure that output order option settings are followed.
13:42 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Started on looking into pdftopdf not doing anything (like copies) twice when called both on a client and on a server (remote CUPS queue showing as IPP printers).
13:42 <tkamppeter> - CUPS: Reported PPD generator changes of cups-filters as feature request to CUPS.
13:42 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2018: Mentoring of the students on Common Print Dialog Backends and printer auto-selection by job.
13:42 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
13:42 <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter
13:42 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
13:43 <Trevinho> · Some mutter and compiz upstream reviews
13:43 <Trevinho> · Refactored, improved and pushed some fixes on mutter and g-s causing crashes
13:43 <Trevinho> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/81
13:43 <Trevinho> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/84
13:43 <Trevinho> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/82
13:43 <Trevinho> · Pushed some refactories to g-s and mutter
13:43 <Trevinho> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/3
13:43 <Trevinho> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/147
13:43 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 81 in mutter "Move MetaOutput::crtc field into private struct and add ref-chain" (comments: 1) [Merged]
13:43 <Trevinho> · Created a script for generating git (gbp) repositories for ubuntu desktop packages,
13:43 <Trevinho> and pushing them to launchpad (thanks Laney for imports, didrocks for documenting the process)
13:43 <Trevinho> - https://git.launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team/+git/ubuntu-desktop-gbp-importer?h=master
13:43 <Trevinho> - https://community.ubuntu.com/t/desktop-deb-packages-migration-to-git/5746/8?u=3v1n0
13:43 <Trevinho> - https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+git
13:43 <Trevinho> · Telegram snap:
13:43 <Trevinho> - fixed upstream bug causing build issues
13:43 <Trevinho> - updated my PR for upstreaming it:
13:43 <Trevinho> + https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/pull/4505
13:43 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 84 in mutter "window: Return -1 if meta_window_get_monitor is called on an unmanaged window" (comments: 1) [Merged]
13:43 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 82 in gnome-shell "Support unmanaged windows monitor index (negative)" (comments: 6) [Merged]
13:43 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 3 in gnome-shell "st-icon: Create shadow pipeline at paint time" (comments: 11) [Merged]
13:43 <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 147 in mutter "Tests: fix make run-tests when builddir != srcdir" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:43 <gitlab-bot> telegramdesktop issue (Pull request) 4505 in tdesktop "Snap packaging support" (comments: 10) [Open]
13:43 <Laney> pushed fixes causing crashes?!?!?!?!?
13:43 <Laney> job security
13:43 <Trevinho> aaha, yeah... you know xD
13:43 <willcooke> :D
13:43 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
13:44 <Trevinho> Ah... Made some pizza xD
13:44 <willcooke> Ken do you have a report from RObert?
13:44 <willcooke> kenvandine, ^
13:44 <kenvandine> no...
13:44 <seb128> :-(
13:45 <Laney> tsk
13:45 <willcooke> He's normally good, maybe travelling already?
13:45 <willcooke> #topic rls-bugs
13:45 <kenvandine> maybe
13:45 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/1773334
13:45 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1773334 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 18.04 mounted network shares not appearing under devices in file manager" [High,Triaged]
13:45 <willcooke> Is this the one we keep skipping?
13:46 <Laney> don't think so, it was only tagged recently
13:47 <Laney> I would say notfixing and we get it by the stable update in due course though
13:47 <seb128> +1
13:48 <willcooke> done
13:48 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:48 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1778817
13:48 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1778817 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "release upgrade from xenial to bionic desktop: screen locks itself, password to unlock fails" [Critical,Triaged]
13:48 <willcooke> We need to fix that one, who can we assign?
13:49 <seb128> I looked at that earlier, I'm not convinced it's a confirmed issue
13:49 <seb128> also I don't why it targets bionic
13:49 <seb128> if the issue is xenial updates the fix should be able xenial?
13:49 <seb128> able->about
13:49 <willcooke> heh good point
13:49 <willcooke> jibel, could you look at recreating it as a first step?
13:50 <seb128> +1 for that
13:50 <jibel> willcooke, I tried, I could unlock every time. I think it's a timing issue
13:50 <jibel> I'll try again
13:50 <willcooke> kk, thanks
13:50 <Laney> This is also why every sensible screensaver spawns a fresh helper process to handle the authentication through PAM. compiz (unity), apparently, does not.
13:51 <Laney> that is the most slangasekish line ever
13:51 <seb128> lol
13:51 <Laney> jibel: I think the point is that it's supposed to not lock
13:52 <jibel> Laney, yes and it locks
13:52 <Laney> so you reproduced it...
13:52 <jibel> the lock part not the fail to unlock part
13:53 <Laney> don't think that matters if the point is the first half
13:54 <willcooke> I would have thought the screen locking was desirable.  If you start and upgrade and go off for lunch, you would expect the machine to lock
13:54 <willcooke> anyway, jibel if you can comment on the bug thats a good starting point
13:54 <willcooke> next
13:54 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1779051
13:54 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1779051 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Bionic) "/usr/bin/gnome-control-center:11:gtk_container_remove:update_output_settings:on_amplify_changed:g_closure_invoke:signal_emit_unlocked_R" [Medium,Triaged]
13:55 <Laney> no, because you are doing open heart surgery on the system while it is conscious and it can forget how to unlock itself quite easily
13:55 <Laney> that is what happens in that bug
13:55 <willcooke> fair
13:55 <willcooke> kk
13:56 <Trevinho> Yeah, I think it's not a policy problem, more a bug that what the policy says it's not respected
13:56 <Trevinho> Unity checks on pam only, not sure what happens
13:56 <Trevinho> another option would be setting the gnome lockdown options in gsettings to force it
13:56 <Trevinho> but, not the nicest way
13:56 <seb128> let's not discuss the bugs details in the meeting
13:57 <willcooke> jibel is going to take another look
13:57 <Laney> The point of my comments was about who should get assigned.
13:57 <Trevinho> willcooke: 1779051 seems that is already addressed, no?
13:57 * Laney shrugs
13:57 <Trevinho> https://git.launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/commit/?id=924f74683e778dc967377811e414df3106015919
13:57 <seb128> Trevinho, not SRUed to bionic yet
13:57 <willcooke> Trevinho, yeah looks like it, although I think it needs SRUing
13:57 <Trevinho> ah, ok... yep, agree
13:58 <willcooke> I'll assign it to Robert
13:58 <seb128> I don't know what to do with those
13:58 <seb128> I would assign to Robert
13:58 <willcooke> done
13:58 <seb128> but he's going to do his usually disagreeing about being assigned or ignore it/unassign himself at some point
13:58 <seb128> but oh well
13:58 <seb128> we can have another disucssion when that happens
13:59 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1714989
13:59 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1714989 in gjs (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast() from st_label_set_text() from ffi_call_unix64()" [Undecided,Confirmed]
14:00 <seb128> that has been fixed/SRUed
14:00 <seb128> unsure why it's on the list
14:00 <Laney> it's fix committed
14:00 <Laney> but has a New gjs task
14:00 <Laney> that might be in need of closing
14:01 <willcooke> Trevinho, that one is with you please ^
14:01 <Trevinho> soo.. the gjs task would be nice to fix, at least for C
14:01 <Trevinho> but not strictly needed for that crash now
14:01 <Trevinho> might be needed for others though
14:01 <seb128> so let's invalid on this bug
14:01 <Trevinho> So, shell side we're all set
14:02 <seb128> it's difficult enough to read like that
14:02 <Trevinho> I mean, invalid for bionic maybe
14:02 <Trevinho> not for C
14:02 <seb128> right
14:02 <seb128> please do that
14:02 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
14:02 <willcooke> k, I think that's the end of the list
14:02 <willcooke> seb128, Laney - did I miss any?
14:03 <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bug/1730765
14:03 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1730765 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Mounted external devices do not appear in dock" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
14:03 <Laney> for c
14:04 <willcooke> at this point, I dont think we have time.  I'm ok to bump it.  I would like some other changes to the dock too, so I think bundle them up for next cycle
14:04 <Laney> go for it
14:04 <willcooke> done
14:05 <Laney> EOL
14:05 <willcooke> #topic AOB
14:05 <willcooke> Please could someone write a summary of sun sprint for me?  With pictures.
14:05 <willcooke> No rush, but would be a good blog post
14:06 <Trevinho> oh... ok :)
14:06 <willcooke> :) thanks Trevinho
14:06 <seb128> served with a tequilla next to the pool? ;)
14:06 <seb128> lol
14:06 <willcooke> Any other business?
14:06 <Trevinho> Laney: want to make your blog cool? :-D
14:06 <Laney> ok, I'll copy and paste your text in there :-)
14:06 <willcooke> Didnt someone want to talk about Nautilus?
14:07 <Laney> we should probably talk about gnome updates at some point
14:07 <seb128> there was some community hub discussions about it where Didier pointed people here
14:07 <Laney> like if other people need to pick those up more
14:07 <seb128> is that what you refering to?
14:08 <willcooke> seb128, yeah.  Oh, I think you replied there already.  But anyway, I dont think we should move until the "desktop" feature appears elsewhere
14:08 <seb128> right
14:08 <willcooke> Laney, can you talk about GNOME updates in person at GUADEC and then we can discuss in the meeting next time?
14:08 <seb128> we are a bit under the water atm
14:09 <seb128> we also said we would enable tracker this cycle
14:09 <seb128> but that doesn't look on the path to happen
14:09 <seb128> we should probably have included that as a feature in the planning
14:09 <Laney> you think that's a lot of work?
14:09 <seb128> we are already behind on features we signed for and that's not account work for the desktop feature, or GNOME updates, or tracker
14:10 <seb128> not especially, but it needs someone to step up to push that forward
14:10 <Trevinho> Ah.. .one thing we said at sun sprint... To ask upstream to take maintenance of the gnome-3-28 branches when they don't care anymore... So we can do SRUs and keep them updated too
14:11 <Trevinho> as they won't care anymore at some point, while we'll still do
14:11 <seb128> like the tracker MIR is blocked on someone to report about the crash reports situation
14:11 <seb128> Trevinho, that sounds like a good topic for GUADEC
14:11 <Trevinho> yep
14:12 <Trevinho> not sure how to get this exposed to all the upstreams we care though xD
14:12 <seb128> well, we can at least speak to a key ones
14:12 <seb128> I don't expect us to do much on most components
14:12 <Trevinho> Yeah, for sure nautilus, mutter+shell, gnome-software
14:12 <seb128> gnome-shell stack and gnome-control-center/nautilus mostly
14:12 <seb128> + gnome-software yes
14:12 <Trevinho> ah and g-c-c yep
14:14 <willcooke> anything more that needs the meeting for?
14:14 <willcooke> erm
14:14 <willcooke> English fail
14:14 <willcooke> Anything more to talk about in the meeting?
14:14 <seb128> that should be enough for this week imho
14:14 <willcooke> yeah same
14:14 <willcooke> carry on after if needed
14:14 <seb128> +1
14:14 <willcooke> #endmeeting