13:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-05-29
13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue May 29 13:30:32 2018 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:30 <willcooke> Roll call:  andyrock (hols), dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128 (hols), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
13:30 <kenvandine> o/
13:30 <jibel> hi
13:30 <oSoMoN> hey
13:30 <Trevinho> o/
13:31 <Nafallo> hola
13:31 <didrocks> hey hey
13:32 <Laney> I've been doing a breaking bad
13:32 <willcooke> Not again
13:32 <Laney> and trying to catch a fly downstairs
13:32 <willcooke> oh
13:32 <kenvandine> lol
13:32 * Laney speed writes
13:32 * kenvandine imagined laney with a lab
13:32 <willcooke> We've talked about making crack
13:32 <didrocks> haha
13:32 <Laney> Better Call Didrocks
13:33 <willcooke> dgadomski, are you around this week or shall I skip to didrocks?
13:33 <dgadomski> hey, I'm here
13:33 <kenvandine> lol
13:33 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
13:33 <dgadomski> submitted a fix for bug #1755490
13:33 <dgadomski> checking a bug with gdm not being shown on a vmware vm, gathering more info before reporting lp bug
13:33 <ubot5> bug 1755490 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Incorrect information about display shown in unity-control-center" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755490
13:33 <dgadomski> eof
13:33 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
13:33 <dgadomski> thanks
13:33 <willcooke> #topic didrocks
13:34 <didrocks> * Ubuntu Report. Fixes upstream only, will need to SRU (and probably FFe?). Latest commits on https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-report/commits/master
13:34 <didrocks> - Now, when we can't post (no Internet for instance) the report immediately, we drop a file that is picked up by a service which will try to send it (with exponential backoff). The service is only started if the file is present to minimize footprint
13:34 <didrocks> - Get screen physical size which will enable us to measure dpi
13:34 <didrocks> - Report language used within session to fix OEM case (installer language being most of the time English there)
13:34 <didrocks> - Discussed with j_ibel about metrics, what is valid, how to measure and accumulate values.
13:34 <didrocks> - Some first contributor PR review (still WIP)
13:34 <didrocks> * Communitheme:
13:34 <didrocks> - fix CI setup for gtk-common-helper (was due to a small typo): https://github.com/ubuntu/communitheme-snap-helpers/commit/66de8add2eaf73ee10e23f36935174ebf7b6e896
13:34 <didrocks> - discussions (public and private) with the core community around issues and with the suru maintainer over the hub.
13:34 <didrocks> * Ubuntu Make:
13:34 <didrocks> - help current maintainer with autopkgtests to unblock stuck version in -proposed:
13:34 <didrocks> + move autopkgtests to bionic env (no requirement on unity process anymore) and also from adt- to autopkgtest command.
13:34 <didrocks> + lot of discussions and help.
13:34 <didrocks> + Now, it's up to the new maintainer to fix latest regressions.
13:34 <didrocks> * Misc:
13:34 <didrocks> - book flights for GUADEC
13:34 <didrocks> - fight on sso issues and debug with IS
13:34 <didrocks> I didn't get any time to look seriously at my only assigned tracking bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1765389). Will do this week!
13:34 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1765389 in vte2.91 (Ubuntu Bionic) "[FFe] Drop unrelated changes from revert-prce2.patch" [Low,Triaged]
13:34 <didrocks> And @Laney: yes, but depends on which season of the character you associate me with.
13:34 <didrocks> .
13:34 <willcooke> thanks didrocks
13:35 <willcooke> #topic duflu
13:35 <willcooke> * Ubuntu 18.04 regressions:
13:35 <willcooke> - FIXED! Panel and menus are clipped when in zoom (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767648). See below list of merge requests for the fix. This is a little exciting because it not only fixes three open bugs, but also unblocks more ways of optimizing gnome-shell (which I was stuck on some months ago).
13:35 <willcooke> * Mutter work completed and proposed this week:
13:35 <willcooke> - The 18.04 zoom regression (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/117) as well as other issues found along the way:
13:35 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1767648 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Top bar and shell dialogs are not displayed properly when zoom is enabled" [High,In progress]
13:35 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 117 in mutter "clutter: Fix offscreen-effect painting of clones" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:35 <willcooke> . clutter-actor: Fix clutter_actor_is_in_clone_paint (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/112)
13:35 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 112 in mutter "clutter-actor: Fix clutter_actor_is_in_clone_paint" (comments: 1) [Opened]
13:35 <willcooke> . clutter-actor: Fix uninitialized matrix multiply (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/114)
13:35 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 114 in mutter "clutter-actor: Fix uninitialized matrix multiply" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:35 <willcooke> . clutter-effect: Rename get_paint_volume (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/115)
13:35 <willcooke> - renderer-native: Reference count front buffers. (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/119)
13:35 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 115 in mutter "clutter-effect: Rename get_paint_volume" (comments: 2) [Opened]
13:35 <willcooke> * Noteworthy Ubuntu 18.10 regressions:
13:35 <willcooke> - Found out why cosmic was freezing and being generally unusable. And it was fixed last week: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767896
13:35 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 119 in mutter "renderer-native: Reference count front buffers." (comments: 19) [Opened]
13:35 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1767896 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Live images with broken seed causes snapd high CPU usage and periodic short GUI freezes" [High,Fix released]
13:35 <willcooke> * BlueZ 5.49:
13:35 <willcooke> - Unexpectedly blocked on new lintian failures in cosmic. And upon looking at Debian I found they have already released 5.49 before us, which has never happened before. Now planning on pulling a few things from there to complete/fix the release. Maybe a full sync with Debian at some stage too, but that may prove risky given how long we've been diverged.
13:35 <willcooke> * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.
13:35 <willcooke> - Interestingly this week has been the worst for backlog growth since bionic release week. Although ubiquity, firefox and nautilus scale the graph so much that you can't easily see that most packages have gone slightly backwards this week.
13:35 <willcooke> - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive
13:35 <willcooke> door 1 sec
13:36 <willcooke> back
13:36 * willcooke checks rls bugs
13:36 <willcooke> I'll ask him about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1758035 tomorrow
13:36 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1758035 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "[regression] gnome-shell crashed with SIGTRAP in g_realloc_n() from g_log_structured()" [High,Confirmed]
13:37 <willcooke> #topic jbicha
13:37 <willcooke> guess jbicha isn't around today
13:38 <willcooke> #topic jibel / heber
13:38 <jibel> - Ubuntu-report:
13:38 <jibel> - done stored procedures to aggregate and export collected data
13:38 <jibel> - Started work on the dashboard.
13:38 <jibel> - Daily bug triaging
13:38 <jibel> done
13:38 <willcooke> thanks jibel.  Any rls bugs to update on?
13:39 <willcooke> I dont think I see any in the list
13:39 <jibel> no
13:39 <willcooke> merci
13:39 <jibel> de rien
13:39 <willcooke> #topic kenvandine
13:40 <kenvandine> * Updated some of the GNOME snaps to latest releases and fixed snapcraft deprecations
13:40 <kenvandine> - In the candidate channel, need to finish testing them and promote them to stable.
13:40 <kenvandine> * Tested snapd PR with calendar and contacts interfaces with gnome-calendar and gnome-contacts snaps
13:40 <kenvandine> * rls bug #934291 Will be uploading cups-pk-helper to bionic this week
13:40 <kenvandine> ⚾
13:40 <ubot5> bug 934291 in cups-pk-helper (Ubuntu Bionic) "Deleting or stopping print jobs does not work" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934291
13:40 <willcooke> thanks kenvandine
13:40 <willcooke> #topic Laney
13:41 <Laney> sry was deleting a spam comment
13:41 <willcooke> (from his van)
13:41 <Laney> also fighting the giant fly
13:41 <Laney> • slightly short week, holiday yesterday
13:41 <Laney> • gstreamer 1.14.1 update for cosmic uploaded, bionic prepared, waiting for cosmic to migrate out of proposed
13:41 <Laney> • worked a lot on systemd --user stuff, can get into gdm now, log in, lock/unlock, do most things but still a decent amount more work to be done
13:41 <Laney> • Uploaded new gdm 3.28.2 to debian, cosmic, bionic including setting up our git branches for those - this upload includes another change which is meant to fix the remaining login problems
13:41 <Laney> • rls bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1771290 going to work on later
13:41 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1771290 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu Bionic) "Untranslated list of encodings in preferences" [Medium,Triaged]
13:41 <Laney> 🍞
13:42 <willcooke> nice onem thanks Laney
13:42 <willcooke> Laney, would you be able to do a blog post write up of the systemd user stuff at some point?
13:43 <willcooke> don't need to wait, so moving on
13:43 <willcooke> #topic oSoMoN
13:43 <oSoMoN> hey
13:43 <oSoMoN> this was a short week as I took a day off yesterday to travel back home from Paris
13:43 <oSoMoN> • firefox
13:43 <oSoMoN> ∘ investigated further https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1462888
13:43 <Laney> yes
13:43 <ubot5> Mozilla bug 1462888 in Add-ons "Flareget addon not working on firefox.snap" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
13:43 <Laney> I'll write something for planet GNOME anyways
13:43 <oSoMoN> • chromium
13:43 <oSoMoN> ∘ e-mailed Carlos Garnacho (GNOME Shell on-screen keyboard maintainer) to get some guidance on possible ibus integration
13:43 <oSoMoN> ∘ updated beta to 67.0.3396.56
13:43 <oSoMoN> ∘ updated dev to 68.0.3438.3
13:43 <oSoMoN> ∘ following new Google requirements for API key use, discussed the current situation and compared with what other distros (debian, fedora) do
13:43 <oSoMoN> • libreoffice
13:43 <oSoMoN> ∘ filed and investigated bug #1772683, created https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/signing-files-with-gpg-from-within-a-snap/5566
13:43 <ubot5> bug 1772683 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] Cannot sign a document, gpg keys are not listed" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1772683
13:43 <oSoMoN> • other
13:43 <oSoMoN> ∘ got interviewed for Compilando Podcast, a Spanish-language podcast about Free Software (https://compilando.audio/), chatted mostly about 18.04, the transition from Unity to GNOME Shell, and snaps
13:43 <oSoMoN> ∘ talked about what's new in 18.04 at the Ubuntu Party in Paris in front of ~40 people, mostly a non-technical audience (with a few exceptions), fielded many good questions, lots of interest == useful presentation :)
13:44 <oSoMoN> 🚂
13:44 <willcooke> oSoMoN, any more updates on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1754671
13:44 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1754671 in network-manager (Ubuntu Bionic) "Full-tunnel VPN DNS leakage regression" [High,Confirmed]
13:44 <kenvandine> oSoMoN, awesome!
13:45 <oSoMoN> willcooke, the bug was reportedly fixed upstream, I need to see how feasible it is to backport the relevant commits
13:45 <willcooke> oSoMoN, ack thx
13:45 <willcooke> (thanks Laney)
13:45 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
13:45 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Investigations how to handle OutputOrder (first page first or large page first) correctly.
13:45 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2018: Coding period has started. Video meetings with thetwo students I am directly mentoring.
13:45 <tkamppeter> - OpenPrinting Summit 2018: Printer drivers and raw queues deprecated, as most modern printers support driverless, for legacy printer application (daemon emulating an IPP printer) will be used.
13:45 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
13:46 <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter.  Will you do a write up from OPS?
13:47 <willcooke> dont need to wait, so
13:47 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
13:47 <Trevinho> · Some reviews and cherry-picks on upstream mutter
13:47 <Trevinho> · GDM login fix, got a fix, then found it was already upstreamed, meh!
13:47 <Trevinho> · Other various GDM debugging, and discussing with upstream how to prevent
13:47 <Trevinho> repetitive retries
13:47 <Trevinho> · GDM (shell greeter) issues when retrying logins
13:47 <Trevinho> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/116
13:47 <Trevinho> · Fixed gnome-shell crash (already upstreamed and cherry-picked)
13:47 <tkamppeter> Could do in the next days.
13:47 <Trevinho> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1714989
13:47 <Trevinho> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/115
13:47 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1714989 in GNOME Shell "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast() from st_label_set_text() from ffi_call_unix64()" [Critical,Fix released]
13:47 <Trevinho> · Some comments on the new GNOME login/lock screen:
13:47 <Trevinho> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/276#note_225787
13:47 <Trevinho> · Discussion about some refactory in gjs for managing dead objects
13:47 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 116 in gnome-shell "GDM login retries fixes" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:47 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 115 in gnome-shell "st-label: Unset clutter text instance on disposal" (comments: 1) [Merged]
13:47 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug 276 in gnome-shell "New unlock/login design" (comments: 13) [Opened]
13:47 <ubot5> Error: Gnome bug 276 could not be found
13:47 <Trevinho> · Finalized the booking for the GUADEC accommodation
13:47 <Trevinho> · Rewriting nautilus query to support deep search != recursive search
13:47 <Trevinho> · Weekeend fun: tilix snap,
13:47 <Trevinho> https://github.com/3v1n0/tilix/tree/snap-support
13:47 <Trevinho> ☕ 🇧🇬
13:48 <Trevinho> [not sure some lines were dropped... after "discussion about...", the next one should be the booking accommodation, right?
13:48 <willcooke> yeah
13:49 <Trevinho> allright then :)
13:49 <willcooke> Trevinho, your other bug is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1756826
13:49 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1756826 in nautilus (Ubuntu Bionic) "hangs when locate search provider matches a lot of files" [High,Triaged]
13:49 <Trevinho> willcooke: yeah, i've hard time in reproducing it to be fair here...
13:50 <Trevinho> basically I'd need laney's mail directory :-D
13:50 <willcooke> heh, I'll leave you guys to work that one out :)
13:50 <Trevinho> I've done some fake files but not noticed many issues
13:50 <Trevinho> willcooke: nautilus ones are higher prio
13:50 <willcooke> nod
13:50 <Laney> I can give you the "tree" of it if you want
13:50 <Trevinho> I mean, the ones about the search upstream
13:51 <willcooke> k, we can sort that out after the meeting
13:51 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
13:51 <willcooke> - Working on gnome-control-center improvements
13:51 <willcooke> - gnome-initial-setup releases
13:51 <willcooke> - snapd-glib common ID support
13:51 <Laney> but it's really just a hierarchy of 385183 files all of which match my machine name
13:52 <willcooke> kenvandine, Robert's got quite a lot of bugs against his name in: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:52 <willcooke> if you speak to him could you get an updates / check he's aware
13:52 <kenvandine> willcooke, i will
13:52 <willcooke> #topic New bugs review
13:52 <willcooke> Since you guys went through the list last week there are a few unassigned ones to look at quickly
13:52 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1765724
13:52 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1765724 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Xenial -> Bionic - System fails to boot after upgrade - gnome-screensaver & gnome-shell fail to start?" [Undecided,Incomplete]
13:53 <willcooke> Might be able to just ignore that one
13:53 <willcooke> jibel can't reproduce any more
13:53 <jibel> and still cannot
13:53 <Laney> notfixing then
13:53 <Laney> or close the bug
13:53 <willcooke> jibel, can you chance the tags
13:53 <jibel> let it expire
13:53 <Laney> it comes up on the list every week
13:54 <jibel> done
13:54 <Laney> thanks
13:54 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+bug/1765644
13:54 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1765644 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-initial-setup runs for upgraders in GNOME session & deletes alternate keymaps" [High,Triaged]
13:54 <didrocks> I guess for Robert…
13:54 <willcooke> It was, then Seb unassigned
13:55 <didrocks> without untagging, weird
13:56 <willcooke> Hm, I don't understand how important that one is.  I'll read more and speak to jbicha in a bit
13:56 <didrocks> yeah, if you setup multiple keyboard layout and g-i-s erases them after upgrade, it's annoying
13:56 <didrocks> (if I understand correctly what the issue is about=
13:57 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1761554
13:57 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1761554 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "[bionic] Extended characters in GNOME screen keyboard don't get entered" [Medium,Triaged]
13:57 <willcooke> looks like that one is in hand
13:57 <didrocks> yes
13:57 <willcooke> k, and I think that's the end of the list
13:58 <willcooke> Did I miss any?
13:58 <willcooke> Let's assume not and we can come back later if needed
13:58 <willcooke> so we can move on to
13:58 <willcooke> #AOB
13:58 <willcooke> #topic AOB
13:58 <willcooke> oh, hold on
13:59 <willcooke> #topic jamesh
13:59 <willcooke> snapd/evolution-data-server:
13:59 <willcooke> * got EDS pull request ready for review with Spread tests passing on
13:59 <willcooke> Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, SUSE, and Arch:
13:59 <willcooke> https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5184
13:59 <willcooke> * I've addressed feedback by zyga and jdstrand, but there was some
13:59 <ubot5-ng> snapcore bug (Pull request) 5184 in snapd "interfaces: add desktop-{contacts,calendar}-service interfaces" (comments: 3) [Open]
13:59 <willcooke> concern about the interface names.
13:59 <willcooke> * chatted with niemeyer about the interface naming issue, and settled
13:59 <willcooke> on calendar-service and contacts-service.
13:59 <willcooke> * I'll push through updates for this tomorrow so I think we could get
13:59 <willcooke> it merged this week.
13:59 <willcooke> snapd/portals:
13:59 <willcooke> * I've started work on a branch to handle the xdg-document-portal
13:59 <willcooke> startup issue (the last issue needed to get working desktop-portal
13:59 <willcooke> support).  This involves some changes to how "snap run" works, so
13:59 <willcooke> there may be some questions about the best way to handle the process
13:59 <willcooke> startup.
13:59 <willcooke> #topic AOB
13:59 <willcooke> Anyone got anything to talk about?
13:59 <willcooke> Oh, I have a quick one
13:59 <willcooke> Where do we have Twitter integration in 16.04?
14:00 <willcooke> I thought maybe online accounts, but it's not there
14:00 <willcooke> meh, not meeting worthy, but if you know, tell me
14:00 <willcooke> any more for any more
14:00 <didrocks> no twitter scope
14:00 <didrocks> I don't think we have anything by default with twitter? gwibber has been removed for long of default install at that time :)
14:00 <willcooke> I think it's probably dead code, so NFA needed
14:01 <willcooke> It's another one of these "you need to review your app or move to the new apis etc etc" things
14:01 <didrocks> (which isn't free anymore IIRC)
14:01 <willcooke> anyway, if no AOB then
14:01 <willcooke> #endmeeting