== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-03-13, 13 Mar at 14:30 — 15:36 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-03-13-14.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 14:32.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 14:33.


=== didrocks ===
The discussion about "didrocks" started at 14:34.

  * ''LINK:'' https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/intall-metrics/+merge/341229 

=== duflu ===
The discussion about "duflu" started at 14:35.


=== jbicha ===
The discussion about "jbicha" started at 14:36.


=== jibel/heber ===
The discussion about "jibel/heber" started at 14:38.


=== kenvandine ===
The discussion about "kenvandine" started at 14:39.


=== laney ===
The discussion about "laney" started at 14:40.


=== oSoMoN ===
The discussion about "oSoMoN" started at 14:41.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 14:44.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 14:45.


=== trevinho ===
The discussion about "trevinho" started at 14:45.


=== jamesh ===
The discussion about "jamesh" started at 14:46.

  * ''LINK:'' https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/development-sprint-march-5th-2018/4345/21?u=jamesh 

=== duflu ===
The discussion about "duflu" started at 14:47.

  * ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/bugs/1743976 
  * ''LINK:'' https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/25 
  * ''LINK:'' https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/29 
  * ''LINK:'' https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-March/037317.html 
  * ''LINK:'' https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/37 
  * ''LINK:'' https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive 

=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 14:49.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 14:49.


=== aob ===
The discussion about "aob" started at 14:50.


=== rls-bb-incoming bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-bb-incoming bugs" started at 14:55.

  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1750995 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1726124 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-share/+bug/1726143 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1752053 
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1718254 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== aob ===
The discussion about "aob" started at 15:17.

  * ''LINK:'' https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pncJWS68YP/ 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ was wondering if we should all give some time to sponsoring each week before release

=== Laney's quick one ===
The discussion about "Laney's quick one" started at 15:35.


=== patch pilot ===
The discussion about "patch pilot" started at 15:35.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * seb128 (140)
 * kenvandine (132)
 * Laney (81)
 * jbicha (48)
 * ubot5` (30)
 * didrocks (29)
 * oSoMoN (25)
 * Trevinho (16)
 * andyrock (12)
 * jibel (9)
 * tseliot (4)
 * dgadomski (3)
 * meetingology (3)
 * tjaalton (1)



== Full Log ==


 14:30 <kenvandine> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-03-13

 14:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 13 14:30:25 2018 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 14:30 <meetingology> 

 14:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 14:30 <kenvandine> Roll call:  andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 14:30 <oSoMoN> o/

 14:30 <jbicha> o/

 14:30 <Trevinho> \o

 14:30 <jibel> *\o/*

 14:31 <andyrock> o/

 14:31 <didrocks> hey

 14:31 <kenvandine> seb128 is going to be a few minutes late

 14:32 <oSoMoN> jibel, in a cheerleader mood?

 14:32 <kenvandine> lol

 14:32 <jibel> yeah, it's like spring today after months of rain

 14:32 <kenvandine> hopefully everyone is happily back at home and well rested

 14:32 <kenvandine> jibel, yay

 14:32 <kenvandine> lets get started

 14:32 <kenvandine> #topic andyrock

 14:32 <andyrock> hey!

 14:32 <andyrock> # Gnome-control-center:

 14:32 <andyrock> - MP for https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794012

 14:32 <andyrock> # Gnome-Software:

 14:32 <andyrock> - MP https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/merge_requests/25

 14:32 <andyrock> - MP https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/merge_requests/26

 14:32 <andyrock> # Snapd:

 14:32 <andyrock> - MP for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1721735

 14:32 <ubot5`> Gnome bug 794012 in Online Accounts "Re-add "add" command-line option" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]

 14:32 <andyrock> # software-properties

 14:32 <andyrock> - WIP to support gnome-online-accuonts to enable livepatch

 14:32 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1721735 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "UbuntuOne auth dialog is displayed when polkit auth dialog is dismissed" [High,In progress]

 14:33 <andyrock> eow

 14:33 <kenvandine> thx andyrock

 14:33 <kenvandine> #topic dgadomski

 14:33 <dgadomski> hey

 14:33 <dgadomski> * working on bug #1749289 and bug #1755490

 14:33 <ubot5`> bug 1749289 in oem-config (Ubuntu) "Installer stops after pressing Cancel on Select a language screen during OEM install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749289

 14:33 <ubot5`> bug 1755490 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Incorrect information about display shown in unity-control-center" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755490

 14:33 <dgadomski> eof

 14:34 <kenvandine> thx dgadomski

 14:34 <kenvandine> #topic didrocks

 14:34 <didrocks> hey

 14:34 <didrocks> * Ubiquity:

 14:34 <didrocks> - minimal install option merged (and list generation finished by Laney, thanks!): https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/revision/6588

 14:34 <didrocks> - add telemetry installation info and tested it on gtk/KDE/noui/oem with, for each (due to matrix of potential breakage): manual install, partition reinstall, partition reuse (upgrade/reinstall keeping home/system info), full device, full disk with lvm, full disk with encryption use free space. Looks like after Laney's review (thanks again), it will be merged soon:

 14:34 <didrocks> https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/intall-metrics/+merge/341229

 14:34 <didrocks> * GNOME Shell:

 14:34 <didrocks> - sync mutter and bump to 3.27.9x: rebase our theme on upstream theme breakages, adapt assets to ubuntu, rebase our patches and change build system options. Multiple commits on https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-shell/ubuntu/changes.

 14:34 <didrocks> - minimal patch for protecting against default installed extensions to be updated via a 3rd parties: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-shell/ubuntu/revision/115. This the minimal patch set due to our propoal PR blocked upstream (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/1)

 14:34 <didrocks> - rebased and reorder the commits order for sound volume design as requested upstream: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/2 no movement after this work being done though.

 14:34 <didrocks> * GNOME Control Center:

 14:34 <didrocks> - rebase and adapt sound patch to 3.27.9x: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-control-center/ubuntu/revision/798

 14:34 <didrocks> * CommuniTheme:

 14:34 <didrocks> - discussed the decision that it would be unsafe to ship it for 18.04, announced and detailed the reasons on https://community.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-participation-an-ubuntu-default-theme-lead-by-the-community/1545/643. Also, announce the snap idea to mitigate and get people installing it easily.

 14:34 <didrocks> - debugged and adjust deps on packaging creating bugs on GTK2 apps being unthemed: https://github.com/Ubuntu/gtk-communitheme/pull/219 / https://github.com/Ubuntu/gnome-shell-communitheme/issues/61

 14:34 <didrocks> - rebased on upstream build system changes: https://github.com/Ubuntu/gnome-shell-communitheme/pull/72 / https://github.com/Ubuntu/gnome-shell-communitheme/issues/71

 14:34 <didrocks> - regular tracking of current work and feedback.

 14:34 <didrocks> * Misc:

 14:34 <didrocks> - some discussion around telemetry implementation, impacts and options.

 14:34 <didrocks> - impact on g-c-c from sending the data. Read 17.10 whoopsie configuration implementation. Saw some bugs (wrong status reported) that we need to fix if linked to data collection).

 14:34 <didrocks> - some AA work (newing)

 14:34 <didrocks> eof

 14:35 <kenvandine> thx didrocks

 14:35 <kenvandine> #topic duflu

 14:36 <kenvandine> ok, seems no duflu

 14:36 <kenvandine> #topic jbicha

 14:36 <jbicha> • Busy 2 weeks. Highlights! :

 14:36 <jbicha> • Released GNOME 3.28 tarballs for gedit, gedit-plugins, gnome-tweaks and zenity

 14:36 <jbicha> • Completed the post-FF transitions for evolution, gnome-control-center, gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-shell

 14:36 <jbicha> • Sponsored a bunch of GNOME uploads to Debian for darkxst

 14:36 <jbicha> • Pushed GunnarHJ's translations fix to libgweather upstream LP: #1753136

 14:36 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1753136 in libgweather (Ubuntu) "Gettext package inconsistency" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753136

 14:36 <jbicha> • Completed the post-FF transitions for evolution, gnome-control-center, gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-shell

 14:36 <jbicha> • Sponsored a bunch of GNOME uploads to Debian for darkxst

 14:36 <jbicha> • Pushed GunnarHJ's translations fix to libgweather upstream LP: #1753136

 14:37 <jbicha> oops

 14:37 <jbicha> • Identified the fix for Firefox & Thunderbird not showing in GNOME Software. (Especially affects Ubuntu Budgie which ships Chromium instead by default) LP: #1682455

 14:37 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1682455 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "thunderbird not available in GNOME Software" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1682455

 14:37 <jbicha> • Nudged GNOME to accept willcooke's monospace wifi hotspot password fix. GNOME bug 785413

 14:37 <ubot5`> Gnome bug 785413 in Network "WiFi-Hotspot password is hard to read with some fonts" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785413

 14:37 <jbicha> • Updated software-properties & update-manager since the debconf GNOME backend switched to gtk3 LP: #1736618

 14:37 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1736618 in debconf (Ubuntu) "debconf: Switch GNOME frontend to gtk3" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1736618

 14:37 <jbicha> • To recap: the first point release Ubuntu 18.04.1 is expected to not include gtk2 in default install (but present on ISO for extra input methods).

 14:37 <jbicha> The initial 18.04 release will still have gtk2 for Thunderbird (presumed risky to remove gtk2 dependency before version 60)

 14:37 <jbicha> • Added Ubuntu to the webkit2 user agent LP: #1751484

 14:37 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1751484 in webkit2gtk (Ubuntu) "Captive portal browser/device misreported" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751484

 14:37 <jbicha> • Handled udisks2 and volume-key packaging tweaks needed for promotion to main

 14:37 <jbicha> • Filed 2 more MIRs LP: #1753581 LP: #1754422

 14:37 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1753581 in graphene (Ubuntu) "[MIR] graphene" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753581

 14:37 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1754422 in volume-key (Ubuntu) "[MIR] volume-key" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754422

 14:37 <jbicha> • GNOME Terminal is back in the GNOME Software app after a long-standing licensing standoff.

 14:37 <jbicha> 🤠

 14:37 <kenvandine> yay for a gedit release!

 14:38 <jbicha> not the maintainer!

 14:38 <jbicha> (I hope)

 14:38 <kenvandine> jbicha, you touched it last!

 14:38 <kenvandine> we'll skip jamesh for now, seb128 might have a report from him

 14:38 <kenvandine> #topic jibel/heber

 14:38 <jibel> - Reviews of MPs of Ubiquity

 14:38 <jibel> - Reviewed test results for Bionic Beta 1

 14:38 <jibel> - Tested Firefox candidate

 14:38 <jibel> - Debugging bug 1754174

 14:38 <ubot5`> bug 1754174 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[Lubuntu] "Install Lubuntu" fails with several commands not found and permission denied" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754174

 14:39 <jibel> ..

 14:39 <kenvandine> thx jibel

 14:39 <kenvandine> #topic kenvandine

 14:39 <kenvandine> * Fixed an issue with symlinks to xdg-user-dirs in the desktop helpers.  The links will now be set in the proper location regardless of $HOME being set to $SNAP_USER_DATA or $SNAP_USER_COMMON

 14:39 <kenvandine> * Working on snap translations provided by libs, building off Laney's LDPRELOAD of bindtextdomain.

 14:40 <kenvandine> #topic laney

 14:40 <Laney> e

 14:41 <Laney> (floating eye)

 14:41 <Laney> • was off yesterday

 14:41 <Laney> • sprinted last week, took a look at some remaining bionic stuff and had discussions with lots of people

 14:41 <Laney> • started working on some updates - gstreamer 1.13.90, glib stack

 14:41 <Laney> • light babysitting of autopkgtest, we had a possibly bad kernel this week on ppc64el

 14:41 <Laney> • next tasks are

 14:41 <Laney> ∘ finish those updates

 14:41 <Laney> ∘ update lxd armhf runners for autopkgtest to have a better network config, after stgraber reviews

 14:41 <Laney> ∘ look at Gunnar's stuff

 14:41 <Laney> ∘ work on rls-bb-tracking bugs if any

 14:41 <Laney> ∘ document the git/dep14 workflow a bit, at least the Ubuntu bits & file bugs for any tooling improvements that might help us (e.g. add & fetch the debian/upstream remotes)

 14:41 <Laney> ∘ get back to systemd stuff

 14:41 <Laney> 🕰️

 14:41 <kenvandine> thx Laney

 14:41 <kenvandine> #topic oSoMoN

 14:41 <oSoMoN> hey

 14:41 <oSoMoN> • firefox

 14:41 <oSoMoN> ∘ filed and fixed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1444313 (setting as default browser in snap fails)

 14:41 <ubot5`> Mozilla bug 1444313 in Shell Integration "setting as default browser in snap fails" [Normal,Unconfirmed]

 14:42 <oSoMoN> • chromium

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ updated stable to 65.0.3325.146 (in bionic, built in PPA for trusty, xenial and artful and awaiting testing)

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ pushed 65.0.3325.146 snap to candidate channel and issued call for testing (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-chromium-65-0-3325-146/4390), it looks like the snap is broken again on NVIDIA hardware with proprietary drivers (18.04 only), this needs confirmation and investigation

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ looked into fully automating minor chromium updates

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ merged Ken's fix to pre-compile the mime database to speed up first start

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ fixed bug #1741078

 14:42 <ubot5`> bug 1741078 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] Chromium fails to set itself as default browser" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1741078

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ submitted https://github.com/Ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/100 (Move XDG_CACHE_HOME to $SNAP_USER_COMMON/.cache)

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ filed and fixed bug #1755463

 14:42 <ubot5`> bug 1755463 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] Using basic (unencrypted) store for password storage" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755463

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ requested auto-connection of the password-manager-service and cups-control plugs (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/auto-connecting-the-camera-interface-for-the-chromium-snap/4014)

 14:42 <oSoMoN> • libreoffice

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ Chris published 1:5.4.5-0ubuntu0.17.10.5 (artful SRU)

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ 6.0.2-0ubuntu1 in bionic (thanks Ken and Lan_ey!)

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ wrote complete manual test plan for new releases of libreoffice

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ filed and fix bug #1752166

 14:42 <ubot5`> bug 1752166 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] GStreamer errors when inserting an audio/video clip" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752166

 14:42 <oSoMoN> ∘ filed and fixed bug #1755178

 14:42 <ubot5`> bug 1755178 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] Math segfaults at startup on Ubuntu 16.04" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755178

 14:42 <oSoMoN> 🐓

 14:42 <oSoMoN> (recognize that rooster?)

 14:42 <kenvandine> thx oSoMoN, so you fixed the segfault?

 14:43 <kenvandine> kakas!

 14:43 <seb128> ('Im back, sorry for being late)

 14:43 <oSoMoN> yes, by getting rid of the libunity-gtk-module

 14:43 <kenvandine> oSoMoN, and that still works fine in 16.04?

 14:43 <oSoMoN> yes

 14:43 <kenvandine> cool

 14:43 <jibel> oSoMoN, where is the test plan for LO?

 14:44 <oSoMoN> jibel, in a text file on my laptop, but I will share it

 14:44 <jibel> okay, np :)

 14:44 <kenvandine> :)

 14:44 <kenvandine> moving on

 14:44 <kenvandine> #topic seb128

 14:44 <seb128> sorry still writing it, can you come back to me in a bit? ;)

 14:44 <kenvandine> sure

 14:44 <seb128> thx*

 14:45 <kenvandine> #topic tkamppeter

 14:45 <kenvandine> - Sprint in Budapest

 14:45 <kenvandine> - CUPS snap: It is in the store now (Edge). Thanks very much to all who have helped me on the Sprint

 14:45 <kenvandine> - QPDF: FFe for 8.x got approved. We have 8.0.2 in the distro now. This fixes bugs of some PDF files not printing and contains everything so that the students can finish Poppler-less bannertopdf and QPDF-based flattening of filled PDF forms (to remove our current Poppler/pdftocairo workaround).

 14:45 <kenvandine> - HPLIP: Synced most current bug fix release from Debian.

 14:45 <kenvandine> - Google Summer of Code 2018: List of project to be done this summer is determined, and also the mentors. Only one student needs still to be determined. Student application period at Google has opened.

 14:45 <kenvandine> - Bugs.

 14:45 <kenvandine> #topic trevinho

 14:45 <Trevinho> · Had great time at Budapest Sprint with team!

 14:45 <Trevinho> · Theme Fixes

 14:45 <Trevinho> - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/list-theming

 14:45 <Trevinho> - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/scour-dependency

 14:45 <Trevinho> - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/backdrop-views

 14:45 <Trevinho> - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/linked-items-fixes

 14:45 <Trevinho> · Telegram snap updates (new edge revisions from upstream include

 14:45 <Trevinho> my patches now, so give `--edge` a try):

 14:45 <Trevinho> https://github.com/3v1n0/telegram-snap/commits/master

 14:45 <Trevinho> · Fixed XDG dirs update tool to work properly env where $HOME is set

 14:45 <Trevinho> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105398

 14:45 <Trevinho> · Proposed fprintd fix upstream:

 14:45 <ubot5`> Freedesktop bug 105398 in General "xdg-user-dirs-update: give priority to $HOME" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]

 14:45 <Trevinho> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105418

 14:45 <Trevinho> · Currently adding more themes to the themes snap.

 14:46 <Trevinho> ----

 14:46 <ubot5`> Freedesktop bug 105418 in fprintd "device policy: only allow enrolling for authenticated users" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]

 14:46 <kenvandine> thx Trevinho!

 14:46 <kenvandine> #topic jamesh

 14:46 <kenvandine> at engineering sprint:

 14:46 <kenvandine> - got patches to extend snap xdg-open proxy to work with regular files merged.

 14:46 <kenvandine> - rewrote xdg-open proxy in Go, at snap core team's request

 14:46 <kenvandine> - came up with plan to move forward on snapd user mounts (prereq for

 14:46 <kenvandine> xdg-desktop-portal):

 14:47 <kenvandine> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/development-sprint-march-5th-2018/4345/21?u=jamesh

 14:47 <kenvandine> - discussed how to handle theming of snapped desktop apps

 14:47 <kenvandine> - put together a skeleton for the "gtk-common-themes" snap for the

 14:47 <kenvandine> above: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/supporting-desktop-themes-via-the-content-interface/4122/3?u=jamesh

 14:47 <kenvandine> snapd:

 14:47 <kenvandine> - started work on helpers for the "safe mount" code.  I need to sync

 14:47 <kenvandine> up with Zygmunt again now we're all home.

 14:47 <kenvandine> #topic duflu

 14:47 <kenvandine> * Gnome Shell performance:

 14:47 <kenvandine> - Affecting Xorg sessions:

 14:47 <kenvandine> . Got back into the gnome-shell CPU bug:

 14:47 <kenvandine> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1743976

 14:47 <kenvandine> . No news yet. Just relearning where I was at last time and

 14:47 <kenvandine> collecting fresh profiles using Gnome 3.27 now.

 14:47 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1743976 in mutter (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell is wasting CPU repainting unchanging panels" [Medium,Confirmed]

 14:47 <kenvandine> . Clock smoothness: Still awaiting review

 14:47 <kenvandine> (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/26)

 14:48 <kenvandine> - Affecting only Wayland sessions (also no progress, no reviews, this

 14:48 <kenvandine> week)

 14:48 <kenvandine> . Unblock rendering from behind monitor flipping:

 14:48 <kenvandine> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/25

 14:48 <kenvandine> . Simplify and clean up:

 14:48 <kenvandine> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/29

 14:48 <kenvandine> * Libinput:

 14:48 <kenvandine> - Upstream released omnidirectional hysteresis this week, only 7 days

 14:48 <kenvandine> after I proposed it!

 14:48 <kenvandine> .

 14:48 <kenvandine> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-March/037317.html

 14:48 <kenvandine> - More time spent again testing upstream patches this week.

 14:48 <kenvandine> * Synaptics touchpad settings missing (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1733032):

 14:48 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1733032 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Touchpad settings don't work after upgrading to 17.10 (because xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is still installed)" [Medium,In progress]

 14:48 <kenvandine> - Progress! Rejected. No good reason other than upstream doesn't like

 14:48 <kenvandine> the idea of having to test it in future releases.

 14:48 <kenvandine> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/37

 14:48 <kenvandine> - I'll consider distro patching for one cycle instead, after 3.28.0

 14:48 <kenvandine> has settled.

 14:48 <kenvandine> - Reminder: gnome-control-center also needs a little fix after that.

 14:48 <kenvandine> * Theme fixes:

 14:48 <kenvandine> - Updated the combobox bug with a xenial fix too

 14:48 <kenvandine> (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1725921)

 14:48 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1725921 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu Bionic) "[regression] Combobox menus have gray text on gray background" [High,In progress]

 14:48 <kenvandine> - Reviewed Marco's theme fixes from during the sprint.

 14:48 <kenvandine> * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes,

 14:49 <kenvandine> bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.

 14:49 <kenvandine> - Fairly busy in bugland this week. So although we closed a bunch of

 14:49 <kenvandine> bugs, generally more were opened thanks to people reacting to news about

 14:49 <kenvandine> beta 1(?)

 14:49 <kenvandine> - Finished reviewing zesty bugs.

 14:49 <kenvandine> - Added more packages to the chart too.

 14:49 <kenvandine> -

 14:49 <kenvandine> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive

 14:49 <kenvandine> #topic robert_ancell

 14:49 <kenvandine> no report

 14:49 <kenvandine> no report

 14:49 <kenvandine> seb128, are you ready?

 14:49 <seb128> yes

 14:49 <kenvandine> #topic seb128

 14:49 <seb128> • week in budapest, good to catch up with the team, great&productive week!

 14:49 <seb128> • quite some meetings about work for the cycle/status/priorities

 14:49 <seb128> • decided to delay fingerprint auth since security has too much to review for us and there are not a lot of laptop which have a driver for that to work, we might still try to land lated

 14:49 <seb128> • debugged some snapd/gnome-software/invalid macaroon issues

 14:49 <seb128> • test/sponsored the goa/ubuntu sso provider from and_yrock

 14:49 <seb128> • sponsored translation fixes from Gunnar (and then help debugging a build issue)

 14:50 <seb128> • discussed the new meson update and whether downgrading it or getting a ffe

 14:50 <seb128> • some ubiquity tweaks for the third-party software wording since the content changed a bit

 14:50 <seb128> • reported some GNOME 3.27 segfaults issue upstream

 14:50 <seb128> (thanks, sorry again for being late)

 14:50 <kenvandine> thx seb128!

 14:50 <kenvandine> #topic aob

 14:50 <Laney> NO

 14:51 <jbicha> ok, I guess not from me either then :)

 14:51 <kenvandine> jbicha, i still need to figure out what's up with the color emojis in gnome-characters

 14:51 <kenvandine> i'm a bit stumped, it's like it only tries emojione

 14:51 <Laney> #topic rls-bb-incoming bugs

 14:51 <Laney> ...first week...

 14:52 <jbicha> kenvandine: next random thing to try is updating freetype

 14:53 <seb128> kenvandine, what Laney said

 14:53 <kenvandine> yeah

 14:55 <seb128> kenvandine, you need to copy his line to change the topic since you are leading the meeting :)

 14:55 <seb128> then we should review http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:55 <kenvandine> oh

 14:55 <kenvandine> :)

 14:55 <kenvandine> #topic rls-bb-incoming bugs

 14:56 <seb128> kenvandine, do you want to go through the list or should I do that?

 14:56 <kenvandine> seb128, could you?

 14:56 <seb128> sure

 14:56 <seb128> let's go through the desktop set ones

 14:56 <seb128> * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1750846

 14:56 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1750846 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Bionic) "several g-s-d services are timing out when booting a live session" [High,New]

 14:56 <Laney> some of the ones in unknown concern us

 14:57 <seb128> the ones that do show on desktop/dx as well through other components I think?

 14:57 <Laney> that is accepted, I think the tag needs to be removed (and someone should be assigned)

 14:57 <Laney> maybe these ones, but don't think that is true in general

 14:57 <Laney> works for this week though

 14:57 <seb128> right

 14:58 <seb128> I looked at those before suggesting we do the desktop-set

 14:58 <Laney> ok cool

 14:58 <seb128> I should have stated that

 14:58 <seb128> anyway

 14:58 <Laney> just wanted to make sure we didn't miss stuff

 14:58 <seb128> thx for that :)

 14:58 <seb128> g-s-d ... any taker?

 14:59 <Laney> sure

 14:59 <seb128> Laney, thanks!

 14:59 <seb128> that might be the same issue that the session timeout

 14:59 <Laney> maybe, if so I don't see that so might be difficult to look at

 14:59 <seb128> well I guess we will know when both are investigated

 14:59 <Laney> I'll have a look

 14:59 <seb128> feel free to bounce back to me if you can't reproduce

 15:00 <seb128> I can try here, maybe with my old laptop I'm more lucky :p

 15:00 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1750995

 15:00 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1750995 in gnome-session (Ubuntu Bionic) "Logging out live session takes several minutes" [High,New]

 15:00 <seb128> looks like we handled that previous week, just need to be untagged I guess?

 15:00 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1726124

 15:00 <seb128> same

 15:00 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1726124 in systemd (Ubuntu) "DNS domain search paths not updated when VPN started" [High,Confirmed]

 15:01 <seb128> I think some of the tag edits from will timeouted and he closed the tabs too early

 15:01 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-share/+bug/1726143

 15:01 <seb128> same

 15:01 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1726143 in nautilus-share (Ubuntu) "Automatic installation of samba fails with "could not find package libpam-smbpass"" [High,Confirmed]

 15:01 <Laney> should be notfixing rather than removing the tag

 15:01 <Laney> well, changing it

 15:02 <seb128> ah, right

 15:02 * Laney updates the dns one

 15:02 <seb128> I just did, sorry :p

 15:02 <seb128> the other ones were to untag since they are nominated

 15:02 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1752053

 15:02 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1752053 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (Ubuntu) "nvidia-390 fails to boot graphical display" [Critical,Incomplete]

 15:02 <seb128> tjaalton, tseliot, ^ is that something you are looking at?

 15:03 <Laney> samba one isn't?

 15:03 <Laney> oh, think it should be though, you got assigned

 15:03 <seb128> crap, yes

 15:03 <Laney> done

 15:03 <seb128> thx

 15:03 <seb128> the nvidia one I'm going to check with timo/alberto so let's skip for now

 15:03 <seb128> I don't think it's for our team

 15:04 <Laney> thx

 15:04 <seb128> * bug #1753776

 15:04 <ubot5`> bug 1753776 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Graphics corruption in login animation to Xorg sessions" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753776

 15:04 <Laney> yeah it would be good to have a proper team for that stuff

 15:04 <Laney> same?

 15:04 <seb128> that one seems a GNOME 3..27 regression

 15:04 <tseliot> seb128: that should be fixed, although people reported different issues there

 15:04 <jbicha> tseliot: it's not fixed

 15:04 <seb128> tseliot, can you comment on the bug saying so? and ask them to open new reports

 15:04 <jbicha> do you need me to try to file a new bug?

 15:04 <seb128> jbicha, the nvidia one?

 15:05 <tseliot> jbicha: yes, please

 15:05 <seb128> jbicha, or the xorg session corruption?

 15:05 <jbicha> the graphical corruption for xorg is not fixed. I don't have nvidia

 15:05 <seb128> k

 15:05 <seb128> tseliot, was talking about the previous one

 15:05 <tseliot> jbicha: not my thing then, sorry. I was referring to nvidia

 15:05 <seb128> jbicha, did you upstream the xorg one?

 15:06 <seb128> tseliot, can you close and ask whoever still has it to open a new report?

 15:06 <tseliot> seb128: sure

 15:06 <seb128> thx

 15:06 <Laney> I got 390 today, going to restart in a bit ;-)

 15:06 <jbicha> seb128: could be GNOME 3.28 but we also had mesa stuff landing in bionic at the same time

 15:06 <seb128> good luck :)

 15:06 <seb128> jbicha, they landed a bit earlier and was in proposed for a while ... but yeah

 15:07 <Laney> one to accept I think

 15:07 <seb128> yes

 15:07 <jbicha> I guess we should try filing a mutter bug upstream to see what they think

 15:07 <seb128> sound like one that duflu could look at

 15:07 <seb128> jbicha, do you want to do that?

 15:07 <seb128> if not I ask duflu tomorrow if he can poke at it

 15:08 <jbicha> let's have duflu do it! ;)

 15:08 <seb128> k

 15:08 <seb128> next is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1749688

 15:08 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1749688 in xorg-lts-transitional (Ubuntu Bionic) "16.04 HWE -> 18.04 = xorg held back (+ partial breakage because of it)" [Undecided,In progress]

 15:09 <seb128> I'm untagging it since it's targetted for bionic & assigned

 15:09 <tjaalton> I have that on a ppa

 15:09 <seb128> good

 15:10 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1718254

 15:10 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1718254 in unity-greeter-session-broadcast (Ubuntu) "please drop url-dispatcher dependencies" [Critical,New]

 15:10 <seb128> that sounds like a bb-notfixing to me

 15:10 <Laney> yep

 15:10 <seb128> x_nox fixed the most important issue by making url-dispatcher not to depend on unity-scopes-api

 15:10 <Laney> we might even want to drop our team from the unity stuff

 15:10 <seb128> which was the stack with net-cpp creating issue

 15:10 <Laney> then they don't show up here at all

 15:11 <seb128> good point

 15:11 <seb128> I'm going to do that

 15:11 <jbicha> seb128: can I get a +1 to remove those 2 indicator packages I mentioned on that bug? maybe I need to open a separate bug…

 15:11 <Laney> although...

 15:11 <Laney> ...LTS?

 15:11 <seb128> still having a view on xenial unity you mean?

 15:11 <Laney> yeah we do still support them there

 15:12 <Laney> can't subscribe per series

 15:12 <seb128> correct

 15:12 <seb128> hum

 15:12 <seb128> I guess we can keep them for now, it's not too much

 15:12 <seb128> and just serie-wontfix tag

 15:12 <Laney> ya

 15:12 <seb128> sounds good?

 15:12 <seb128> k, let's call it a plan then

 15:13 <seb128> that's it for the list

 15:13 <Laney> not too bad

 15:13 <seb128> Laney, thanks for the reminder and notes!

 15:13 <seb128> indeed

 15:13 <seb128> though we do have a bunch of bugs assigned to people

 15:13 <Laney> anything on tracking to check up on?

 15:13 <seb128> which we don't actively track

 15:13 <Laney> or next week maybe because of sprint

 15:13 <seb128> I'm unsure if we could/should

 15:14 <seb128> tracking? wdym?

 15:14 <Laney> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 15:14 <seb128> ah, I guess that's the counter part which are the ones we accepted

 15:15 <seb128> I had forgotten about that

 15:15 <Laney> yeah

 15:15 <seb128> good, that replies to my previous question

 15:15 <seb128> but yeah, I guess we didn't do much progress since the sprint/travelling

 15:15 <seb128> so let's start reviewing it next week

 15:15 <Laney> maybe it should be a status update item

 15:15 <Laney> give a line to assigned rls bugs or something

 15:16 <seb128> we used to do that I think :)

 15:16 <seb128> good idea

 15:16 <Laney> doomed to reinvent the past

 15:16 <seb128> let's talk to willcooke about it once he's back

 15:16 <Laney> ok

 15:16 <seb128> on that note I guess we can #aob

 15:16 <seb128> kenvandine, ^ can you topic back to aob? ;)

 15:17 <kenvandine> #topic aob

 15:17 <seb128> thx!

 15:17 <jbicha> Laney: I wanted to follow up on last week's git discussion

 15:18 <jbicha> the plan for now is to push ubuntu/ branches to LP, right?

 15:18 <Laney> think so

 15:18 <Laney> that's my proposal anyway

 15:18 <jbicha> and we're not worried about preserving bzr history?

 15:18 <seb128> we didn't discuss that topic

 15:18 <seb128> but I guess that's not really doable, is it?

 15:19 <kenvandine> probably not worth the hassle

 15:19 <Laney> not sure how you would, seems really hard to interleave it in the git stuff

 15:19 <seb128> did Debian preserve any svn history when they migrated?

 15:19 <jbicha> I personally don't care about the bzr history

 15:19 <Laney> yeah, there was an export

 15:19 <Laney> I'd just push "this branch is dead" to all of them when they move

 15:19 <jbicha> seb128: yes we managed to preserve most of the svn history

 15:19 <Laney> and then you can go back to see the history if you're an archaeologist

 15:20 <seb128> if they did it for svn we should be able to do it for our bzr using similar tools?

 15:20 <jbicha> seb128: are you volunteering yourself? ;)

 15:20 <seb128> for any repo I'm migrating yes

 15:20 <seb128> :)

 15:20 * Laney doesn't like trolling on this topic :(

 15:21 <Laney> you'd have to like

 15:21 <Laney> go back and find the base debian revision for each commit

 15:21 <seb128> sorry

 15:21 <Laney> check out that tag and then merge into it

 15:21 <seb128> do you know how Debian did it for the svn?

 15:21 <Laney> and then roll that forward up to the present

 15:21 <Laney> yes, an svn export which was then carved up and converted to git

 15:22 <seb128> the principle/tools wouldn't easily apply to our bzr repos?

 15:22 <seb128> I guess we are going to end up deciding it's not worth the effort

 15:22 <Laney> now we have a repository with the history from svn in it

 15:22 <seb128> but it's a bit sad to loose the history

 15:22 <Laney> so you have to go back and insert the bzr commits at the right place

 15:23 <jbicha> it ended up taking years for Debian GNOME to get around to converting from svn to git

 15:23 <seb128> just because of them wanting to keep history?

 15:23 <jbicha> a straight bzr-to-git conversion would be easier, but interleaving it with the new Debian git repo is more complex

 15:23 <seb128> well, I guess we don't have enough resources to work on that

 15:23 <Laney> what you could do is convert the stuff to git

 15:23 <Laney> and put it in a different branch

 15:24 <Laney> so it's right there to look at but not in the history on master

 15:24 <seb128> +1 from me  to not converting, even if it makes me sad to nuke records of years of work done by our team

 15:24 <seb128> how do other feel?

 15:25 <seb128> didrocks, kenvandine, ?

 15:25 <kenvandine> sorry... let me read back

 15:25 <didrocks> yeah, I don't feel it worths the effort

 15:25 <kenvandine> not worth it imo

 15:25 <didrocks> at worst, we keep old branch around

 15:25 <didrocks> for history!

 15:25 <didrocks> :)

 15:26 <seb128> k

 15:26 <seb128> Laney, jbicha, there you go :)

 15:26 <jbicha> (Debian had a bit more urgency because we were concerned about the svn repos being removed completely)

 15:26 <seb128> right

 15:26 <jbicha> and we're cool to move packaging to git now, right?

 15:26 <seb128> still stuck to pretend all the work we did didn't exist

 15:27 <seb128> I don't think we decided on that

 15:27 <seb128> and the meeting has already been an hour today

 15:27 <Laney> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pncJWS68YP/

 15:27 <Laney> jbicha: for next cycle

 15:28 <seb128> we should get to a consensus/update the post on the community hub

 15:28 <seb128> or maybe start with a few selected repos to see how it goes

 15:28 <jbicha> what about for stuff in main that doesn't have an Ubuntu packaging branch yet? I think gvfs was a good example of one of these packages

 15:29 <seb128> just to validate the workflow/etc

 15:29 <seb128> jbicha, I would prefer to delay to next cycle, let's rediscuss next week

 15:29 <seb128> we don't have good Ubuntu contributor documentation

 15:29 <seb128> and I'm concerned that changing now is going to impact people work for the LTS

 15:29 <jbicha> I'm working on 3.28.0 stuff this week is why I'm asking now :)

 15:29 <seb128> like now you want to fix a bug in gvfs and you need to dig into using new tools

 15:30 <seb128> learning new workflows

 15:30 <seb128> fixing potential fallouts, etc

 15:30 <seb128> that's not what we want to be spending time on atm

 15:31 <didrocks> I guess that's what we wanted to discuss that post-FF, to plan for starting it on the 18.10 cycle

 15:31 <jbicha> gvfs is also a package that is basically maintained in Debian right now. There is a trivial diff that I don't think can be easily pushed in to Debian

 15:31 <seb128> next cycle is no far

 15:31 <seb128> jbicha, I disagree with that, I did a gvfs upload some days ago to fix an autopkgtest issue

 15:31 <jbicha> yes and I had to push it to Debian for you :|

 15:31 <kenvandine> +1 on holding off just a little longer

 15:31 <seb128> it would have been much more annoying if the packaging had been in git

 15:31 <kenvandine> we're close to closing out bionic

 15:32 <kenvandine> hate to risk slowing anything down

 15:32 <seb128> k

 15:32 <seb128> I think that close the topic (for this week at least)?

 15:32 <kenvandine> +1

 15:32 <didrocks> yes

 15:32 <seb128> other topics?

 15:33 <jbicha> kenvandine: (at least for me, having to push stuff to bzr too slows me down)

 15:33 <kenvandine> jbicha, understood... i think for now whatever is easiest?

 15:33 <jbicha> (but I'll let this discussion end)

 15:33 <jbicha> kenvandine: (lol)

 15:33 <kenvandine> i'm anxious to change as well, but might not be a great time for folks to learn their way around

 15:33 <kenvandine> going once...

 15:34 <kenvandine> twice...

 15:34 <Laney> yes (sorry!)

 15:34 <kenvandine> lol

 15:34 <kenvandine> snuck that in

 15:34 <Laney> :-)

 15:34 <Laney> anyway quick one I think

 15:34 <didrocks> the install in my vm didn't finish, you can go on ;)

 15:34 <Laney> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ was wondering if we should all give some time to sponsoring each week before release

 15:35 <kenvandine> #topic Laney's quick one

 15:35 <kenvandine> :)

 15:35 <Laney> desktop team patch pilot

 15:35 <Laney> #goodguys

 15:35 <kenvandine> #topic patch pilot

 15:35 <kenvandine> +1

 15:35 <kenvandine> would be good to trim that down

 15:35 <seb128> people are busy enough so I don't think we should make a requirement

 15:35 <seb128> but +1 if people could spare some hours to help on that

 15:35 <Laney> that means no

 15:35 <Laney> ok then, was just an idea

 15:36 <kenvandine> #endmeeting



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