== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-27, 27 Feb at 14:30 — 15:05 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-02-27-14.30.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === andyrock === The discussion about "andyrock" started at 14:32. === dgadomski === The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 14:33. === duflu === The discussion about "duflu" started at 14:34. === jbicha === The discussion about "jbicha" started at 14:35. === jamesh === The discussion about "jamesh" started at 14:36. * ''LINK:'' https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/supporting-desktop-themes-via-the-content-interface/4122 === jibel / heber === The discussion about "jibel / heber" started at 14:37. === kenvandine === The discussion about "kenvandine" started at 14:37. === Laney === The discussion about "Laney" started at 14:38. === oSoMoN === The discussion about "oSoMoN" started at 14:40. === seb128 === The discussion about "seb128" started at 14:41. === tkamppeter === The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 14:42. === Trevinho === The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 14:44. === robert_ancell === The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 14:46. === AOB === The discussion about "AOB" started at 14:46. * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fprintd/+bug/1532264 == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * willcooke (101) * seb128 (67) * jbicha (30) * ubot5` (25) * Trevinho (24) * oSoMoN (18) * Laney (17) * kenvandine (11) * andyrock (10) * tkamppeter (8) * dgadomski (6) * jibel (6) * meetingology (3) == Full Log == 14:30 #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-27 14:30 Meeting started Tue Feb 27 14:30:09 2018 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:30 14:30 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:30 gunno/ 14:30 o/ 14:30 Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks (hols), duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 14:30 o/ 14:30 doh, already mid-afternoon :/ 14:30 \o 14:31 o/ 14:31 woof 14:31 o/ 14:31 seb128, yeah, time flies 14:32 I think we've got enough people to get started 14:32 #topic andyrock 14:33 1. Reviews: 14:33 1.1 https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/compiz/static-compregion-memory-curruption-fix/+merge/338342 14:33 1.2 https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/compiz/x-sru6/+merge/338345 14:33 2. Ubuntu SSO provider for Gnome-online-accounts: 14:33 2.1 MP Upstream: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793755#c2 14:33 2.2 WIP livepatch auth inside gnome-online-accounts 14:33 X. Various: 14:33 Gnome bug 793755 in general "Implement an Ubuntu Single Sign-on Provider" [Normal,New] 14:33 X.1 Helping Marco figuring out the unity's FTBS 14:33 eow 14:33 thanks andyrock 14:33 #topic dgadomski 14:33 hey 14:33 * testing fix for bug #1743422 14:33 * working on bug #1749289 14:33 * tested fix for bug #1688508 on Xenial and Artful, uploaded debdiffs 14:33 * checking a potential hwdata and g-s-d issue (wrong name displayed for an external display) 14:33 bug 1743422 in unity (Ubuntu) "The launcher reveal doesn't always work when moving the pointer to the defined hot spot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1743422 14:33 bug 1749289 in oem-config (Ubuntu) "Installer stops after pressing Cancel on Select a language screen during OEM install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749289 14:33 bug 1688508 in libvirt (Ubuntu Artful) "libvirt-guests.sh fails to shutdown guests in parallel" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1688508 14:33 eof 14:33 thanks dgadomski 14:34 #topic duflu 14:34 * Gnome Shell performance work (https://trello.com/c/Q6JYXPPs) 14:34 - Started splitting up my many little mutter fixes to lessen the impact of the big one coming later: 14:34 . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/25 14:34 . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/26 14:34 . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/29 14:34 . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/30 14:34 . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/34 14:34 - Multi-monitor frame scheduling: 14:34 . Done and working well for the single GPU case: https://git.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/mutter/log/?h=crtc-holds-reference 14:34 . Unfortunately I was forced to modify the hybrid GPU code and have not tested that yet with hybrid hardware. Might need to put it on hold and finish it later because this has become more of a Gnome 3.30 / Ubuntu 18.10 task now... 14:34 . I will continue to push little prereq branches like those above, to ensure the task eventually progresses next cycle for 18.10. 14:34 * Synaptics missing in Gnome Settings (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1733032) 14:34 Ubuntu bug 1733032 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Touchpad settings don't work after upgrading to 17.10 (because xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is still installed)" [Medium,In progress] 14:34 - Added synaptics settings support to mutter: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/37 14:34 - The only missing piece after that is to remove the small amount of logic from gnome-control-center that explicitly hides the GUI for synaptics (yes, it goes out of its way to hide them). 14:34 * BlueZ 5.48 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1747354) 14:34 Ubuntu bug 1747354 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Update bluez to version 5.48 in bionic" [Wishlist,Fix committed] 14:34 - Finally released to bionic this week: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/5.48-0ubuntu3 14:34 * Libinput: 14:34 - News: 1.10 released to bionic this week. We are back on pure Debian packages. 14:34 - More time spent discussing and fixing libinput with upstream: 14:34 . https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105108 14:34 Freedesktop bug 105108 in libinput "Lenovo Yoga 11S touchpad is jittery" [Normal,New] 14:34 . https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103970 14:34 Freedesktop bug 103970 in libinput "Apple Magic Trackpad sensitivity too low (does not detect touches unless pressing hard)" [Major,Resolved: duplicate] 14:34 . https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103572 14:34 Freedesktop bug 103572 in libinput "Libinput: 1.9+: Apple Magic Trackpad stutters, is unresponsive" [Normal,Assigned] 14:34 . https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105246 14:34 Freedesktop bug 105246 in libinput "libinput command can't find its subcommand --parameters" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] 14:34 . https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105264 14:34 Freedesktop bug 105264 in libinput "libinput-measure-touch-size prints sizes backwards" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] 14:34 * Fun with charts: More progress clearing the bug backlog this week: 14:34 - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive 14:35 * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, mir, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput. 14:35 #topic jbicha 14:35 • Lots more GNOME 3.27 fun 14:35 • Prepared gnome-shell & mutter 3.27 transition in GNOME3 Staging PPA LP: #1751070 14:35 Launchpad bug 1751070 in budgie-desktop (Ubuntu) "mutter 3.28 transition" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751070 14:35 • Sponsored the NM autopkgtest update for gQuigs 14:35 • Fixed aisleriot taking forever to build 14:35 • Cherry-picked gnome-clocks crash fix for bionic LP: #1749937 (waiting for Debian sync) 14:35 Launchpad bug 1749937 in gnome-clocks (Ubuntu) "gnome-clocks crashed with SIGSEGV in gweather_location_format_two_serialize()" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749937 14:35 • Fixed LP: #1617535 for bionic, still needs to be SRU'd 14:35 Launchpad bug 1617535 in ubuntu-geoip (Ubuntu Artful) "geoip.ubuntu.com does not utilize HTTPS" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1617535 14:35 • Synced gnome-keyring with Debian except for our systemd user service stuff 14:35 • Fixed libgweather translations after conversion to meson with GunnarHj's help LP: #1751261 14:35 Launchpad bug 1751261 in gettext (Ubuntu) "libgweather-locations.pot generation fails with bionic meson" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751261 14:35 • Made progress on pipewire packaging with fsateler's help. Now blocked on https://github.com/PipeWire/pipewire/issues/60 14:35 • Allowed telepathy to be dropped from main 14:35 • fonts-ubuntu is now in (Debian) non-free. The RFP/ITP bug was 2663 days old. LP: #1617535 14:36 🥌 14:36 thanks jbicha! 14:36 #topic jamesh 14:36 themes for snapped desktop apps: 14:36 * wrote up a snapcraft forum post about making themes available to 14:36 snaps via the content interface: 14:36 https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/supporting-desktop-themes-via-the-content-interface/4122 14:36 * started work on the simple snapcraft change (allow cloud parts to 14:36 introduce plugs/slots) mentioned in the post, but postponed that to 14:36 work on the xdg-open feature 14:36 snapd xdg-open extension: 14:36 * The overall aim here is to allow snaps to use 14:36 g_app_info_launch_default_for_uri() for local files, while we're still 14:36 working on full portal support. 14:36 * The first step was to check whether I could assemble an environment 14:36 in a snap where attempts to open arbitrary files would trigger the 14:36 same handler. I managed to get this working by compiling a stub mime 14:37 database so that all files are mapped to the same content type, and 14:37 subsequently trigger the same handler. This should be okay for the 14:37 target snap. 14:37 * I am putting together a snap userd PR to add a second D-Bus API for 14:37 handling local files, using similar checks to xdg-desktop-portal's 14:37 OpenURI.OpenFile() method. 14:37 * Once that is in place, the next step is to patch the core snap to 14:37 make its xdg-open proxy call this method when attempting to open local 14:37 files. This will likely involve replacing the shell script 14:37 implementation with a C program. 14:37 #topic jibel / heber 14:37 - 16.04.4 Release. Nothing to report, everything's going well and release is still planned for this Thursday (March 1st) 14:37 - Designed a test plan to measure the impact of snaps on boot speed and started gathering data. 14:37 - Still debugging random boot and installation issues of Bionic. 14:37 - Update ubiquity autopilot branch according to latest changes in minimal installation feature and run tests against latest image. 14:37 done 14:37 thanks jibel 14:37 #topic kenvandine 14:38 * kenvandine waves 14:38 * Packaged robert_ancell's proof of concept snapper (Snap store frontend with apt support) as a snap 14:38 * Continued work on the gnome-software classic snap 14:38 - Built latest ubuntu-master 14:38 - Working on building with fwupd support, in progress 14:38 * Fixed the gnome-clocks snap automated build, libgweather switched to meson 14:38 * Created stable/ubuntu-18.04 branches for all the seeded snaps 14:38 * Confirmed with sil2100 that it should be fine to SRU flatpak 0.12 when it comes out 14:38 EOF 14:38 thanks kenvandine 14:38 #topic Laney 14:39 hi 14:39 • helped to finish off the ubiquity 'minimal install' stuff 14:39 • looked into how to monitor timezone changes for our proposed improvement to systemd timers, got a possibly working approach, need to figure out how to hook it in - https://gist.github.com/iainlane/fc840fc81018c7ed5af5a6cbbe8968a4 14:40 • pushed on some transitions in proposed, got some things migrated and tried to nag about mesa which is the remaining big blocker 14:40 • uploaded glib2.0 with test fix and gobject-introspection to debian, merged glib in bionic 14:40 • unwedged autopkgtest after meltdown restarts borked it a bit 14:40 🍜 14:40 thanks Laney 14:40 #topic oSoMoN 14:40 hey 14:40 • chromium 14:40 ∘ 64.0.3282.167 published to {artful,xenial,trusty}-{security,updates} 14:40 ∘ updated beta to 65.0.3325.88 14:40 • libreoffice 14:40 ∘ promoted 6.0.1 snap to the stable channel 14:40 ∘ published 6.0.2 (RC) snap to the candidate channel, and issued call for testing (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-libreoffice-6-0-2/4185) 14:40 ∘ investigated bug #1750335, initially skipped the failing test and then Rico fixed it properly 14:40 bug 1750335 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LO 6.0 autopkgtest failures (uicheck: test_text_direction)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750335 14:40 ∘ relaxed java dependency on i386 14:40 ∘ backports for CVE-2018-6871 published to xenial and trusty 14:40 ∘ filed bug #1750982 and upstream https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115931, cherry-picked upstream fix 14:40 bugs.documentfoundation.org bug 115931 in LibreOffice "ScFiltersTest::testOrcusODSStyleInterface fails with liborcus 0.13.3" [Normal,Resolved: moved] 14:40 bug 1750982 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice FTBFS with liborcus 0.13.3" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750982 14:40 ∘ ensured apparmor fixes are cherry-picked to 6-0 branch upstream (https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/50207/1) 14:40 ∘ numerous bug reports (bug #1751005, bug #1750087 and duplicates) raised after the artful SRU confirmed that I screwed up, the upload had a patch to fix the apparmor profiles and that resulted in them being strictly enforced, which breaks a flurry of use cases it turns out… I prepared and tested an update to permanently disable the apparmor profiles (with guidance from Jamie), and handed it over to the security 14:40 bug 1751005 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice cannot open a document not within $HOME" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751005 14:40 bug 1750087 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[libreoffice-kde4] LO crashes when trying to save" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750087 14:41 team, I'm hoping it will go out to users today 14:41 ∘ updated debdiff for bug #1749920, added DEP8 tests that run a subset of the unit tests, it got sponsored to bionic and will (hopefully) soon make its way to main 14:41 bug 1749920 in libepubgen (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libepubgen" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749920 14:41 😵 14:41 thanks oSoMoN 14:41 #topic seb128 14:41 • sponsored the bluez regression fix from duflu, that let 5.48 migrate to bionic - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/5.48-0ubuntu3 14:41 • send some emails about our MIRs backlog and what can be done to resolve it 14:41 • looked at translations issues and at some fixes proposed by Gunnar (gtk+, gnome-todo, fcitx, gnome-sudoku) 14:41 • Discussions/meetings about the livepatch integration in bionic 14:41 • disabled the gtk/mir backend, it's unmaintained and not needed since mir talks wayland now - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/3.22.28-1ubuntu3 14:41 • verify the python-dbusmock fix for nm1.10 - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-dbusmock/0.17.1-1 14:41 • updated udisks to the current 2.7.6 version - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/2.7.6-1ubuntu1 14:42 • looked at some autopkgtest issue from bionic-proposed (retried some transitions issues, debugged meson failing a bit and talked to upstream about it) 14:42 • opened a MIR for bolt (thunderbolt 3 service) - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1752056 14:42 Ubuntu bug 1752056 in Ubuntu "[MIR] bolt" [Undecided,New] 14:42 • updated nautilus to the current version - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/1:3.26.2-0ubuntu1 14:42 • joined an HR presentation for new managers 14:42 • submitted a first version of ubiquity-without-ecryptfs, waiting for review comments 14:42 • lot of trello/work status updates 14:42 • AOB topics: GNOME 3.28 status, nautilus-share/gnome-user-share status for bionic, gstreamer update? 14:42 14:42 (I've been less lazy about writting my summary also this week, extra details and urls :p) 14:42 (needs to keep it this way now!) 14:42 \o/ 14:42 Thanks seb128, lets discuss more at the end 14:42 #topic tkamppeter 14:42 thx 14:42 you're not a new manager! ;) 14:43 lol, but seems some people noticed I was one and decided to invite me to those hangouts :p 14:43 let's give tkamppeter a couple of mins and move on 14:44 - cups-filters: Working out license conflict with CUPS. CUPS has switched to Apache 2.0 from 2.3.x on, which is incompatible with (L)GPL2-only which some files (the ones inherited from CUPS) of cups-filters use. Mike Sweet (author of CUPS) agreed with switching them to Apache 2.0, but this makes cups-filters incompatible with old CUPS (2.2.x or earlier). Mike is working on a solution on the CUPS side to avoid the need of r 14:44 e-licensing the files in cups-filters. 14:44 - cups: For 18.04 we stay with 2.2.x to avoid license conflicts. Mike Sweet will issue another 2.2.x bug fix release under the old license, backporting bug fixes from 2.3.x. 14:44 - cups-filters: Released 1.20.1 (bug fix release). It is already uploaded to Debian, waiting for sync to Ubuntu. 14:44 - HPLIP: No transition 3.17.10 -> 3.17.11. The new version is too buggy, mainly the packaging of the source tarball. 14:44 - ghostscript, foo2zjs, ippusbxd, rastertosag-gdi: Merged/synced from Debian to Ubuntu to be up-to-date before Feature Freeze. 14:44 - Google Summer of Code 2018: Selected the most urgent projects and assigned them to the few mentors we currently have. Another video interview of students. Mentoring Sahil Arora. 14:44 - Bugs. 14:44 thanks tkamppeter 14:44 #topic Trevinho 14:45 · Nautilus recent files search provider, and recent files updater: 14:45 - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/merge_requests/98 14:45 - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/merge_requests/112 14:45 (released in ubuntu package too, seb please tune our gtksettings.ini) 14:45 · Working on a search provider using locate 14:45 · Upstream improvements to locate to get better results when using 14:45 special chars and spaces (locate "my-file_with Separator and accents 14:45 à la française" matches more stuff now): 14:45 - https://pagure.io/mlocate/pull-request/41#request_diff 14:45 - https://pagure.io/mlocate/pull-request/42#request_diff 14:45 · Landing of a new unity SRU with some crash fixes 14:45 · Fixed a compiz memory corruption issue due to linking (thanks to andyrock too): 14:45 Trevinho, oh right, gtk, thanks for the reminder :) 14:45 floding again 14:45 what's the last line you got? 14:45 Trevinho, compiz mem corrupiton 14:46 · Updates to the Remmina and telegram snaps: 14:46 - https://github.com/FreeRDP/Remmina/commits/next/snap/snapcraft.yaml 14:46 - https://github.com/3v1n0/telegram-snap/commits/master 14:46 · Got approved as GNOME Foundation member (\o/) 14:46 ----- 14:46 congrats Trevinho :) 14:46 #topic robert_ancell 14:46 - snapd-glib 1.35/1.36/1.37 released https://github.com/snapcore/snapd-glib/releases/ 14:46 - worked on migrating from reviews.ubuntu.com to ODRS 14:46 - Discussed with GNOME sysadmins about usage of ubuntu group in gitlab.gnome.org 14:46 - GNOME Software bug hunting 14:46 #topic AOB 14:46 seb128, you want to talk about GNOME 3.28 etc 14:47 yeah, if needed 14:47 when is didrocks expected back? I need his help for the volume-past-100% merging 14:47 thursday 14:47 that's blocking the gnome-shell update? 14:48 Ah, maybe we can talk about distro-patch for fractional too? 14:48 I think we are going to need ffes for gnome-shell and gnome-control-center 14:48 we'll have temporary regressions in gnome-shell & gnome-control-center until didrocks has time to handle that 14:48 jbicha, do you see other ones being late/not ready to land this week? 14:48 well, which means we are not going to land those updates 14:49 it's fine, we can land them next week, should be easy to get a ffe still 14:49 I hadn't started the evolution transition because I was hoping gnome-desktop3 would clear first 14:49 Ah, forgot also to mention in my report that I did a debdiff for fixing 14:49 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fprintd/+bug/1532264 14:49 Ubuntu bug 1532264 in fprintd (Ubuntu) "fprintd allows unauthorized root access" [High,Confirmed] 14:49 if anyone can sponsor it... 14:50 Trevinho, I'm adding to my backlog, security might want to comment as well 14:50 there is a minimal gnome-settings-daemon transition needed too. I found a gsd bug yesterday LP: #1751956 14:50 Launchpad bug 1751956 in Ubuntu GNOME "gsd-power 3.27.91 crashed with SIGFPE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751956 14:50 indeed 14:51 jbicha, ideally we would be able to clear the gnome-desktop one in the next days and upload evo before ff 14:51 I don't count on gnome-shell and g-c-c before ff 14:51 it's not realistic 14:51 so let's do a ffe for those next week 14:51 ok 14:51 it lets time to Didier to be back and help with the update 14:51 and talk about Trevinho's scaling work we might want to distro patch 14:51 gnome-calendar 3.27 is blocked on the libdazzle MIR, do you want that synced now anyway or wait? 14:51 please upload 14:52 doko said he wanted them to show on component mismatch 14:52 so let's please him :) 14:52 and that way it's "in" before ff 14:52 Builder might stay at 3.26 (or be a late FF) because the pcre2-revert patch needs to be rebased 14:53 that should be about it for GNOME 3.28 missing pieces 14:53 we can ffe that later, it's an universe package 14:53 k, thanks 14:53 so next topic .. or not 14:53 those patches are the worst 14:53 dunno if we wanted to discuss gstreamer 1.3 14:53 Laney: what are you thinking with gstreamer 1.4? 14:53 it's in Debian experimental now 14:53 what's the mp3 situation 14:53 ? 14:53 1.14 14:53 willcooke, ^ do you have an update? 14:54 Laney, got the provisional +1 this morning, waiting for a final +1 which is due today. Probably wise to wait until tomorrow before we act 14:55 could do then 14:55 good, let's rediscuss it out of the meeting/before acting if needed 14:56 nod 14:56 the third item I had on my AOB list was nautilus-share/gnome-user-share 14:56 that's complicated 14:56 I didn't have much time to look at the status/think about those 14:56 but it sucks to have no working sharing by default 14:56 apparently Ubuntu is unique among GNOME distros for shipping nautilus-share by default? 14:56 could be, I'm not familiar with what others distros do 14:57 MIR needed for gnome-user-share to actually work is blocked by security questions LP: #1731065 14:57 Launchpad bug 1731065 in mod-dnssd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] mod-dnssd" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731065 14:58 mdeslaur also suggested that better "cloud" sharing integration (ala Google Drive or whatever) would be more useful :| 14:58 no easy way out 14:58 I'm not sure we are being able to resolve that in the meeting though 14:58 yeah, I agree 14:59 we should probably keep it as an ongoing discussion, I would like to see that solved in some way 14:59 but busy cycle, still lot to do, etc :/ 14:59 at this point, the gnome-user-share MIR would probably need a FFe 14:59 right, I think anything that isn't clearly defined and ready to land is ffe at this point 15:00 k 15:00 willcooke, I think that was for my items 15:00 thanks seb128 15:00 dunno if others have some as well 15:00 yep 15:00 we forgot to review rls-bb-incoming this cycle 15:01 that should be an item on the meeting topic after the round every week I think 15:01 ouch, good point 15:01 s/topic/agenda/ 15:01 yeah 15:01 Laney, good call 15:02 what do we do then for today? 15:03 have a round? do a first review out of the meeting to clear the list first and then start next time? 15:03 do it now or do it next week in person? 15:03 I was going to say, lets do it in person next week, we should be able to get through them quicker 15:03 I would vote for next week, but if people would prefer now I'm not going to opposite it 15:03 also people are really busy with ff work now 15:03 +1 for next week 15:04 so let's maybe go back to focus on work 15:04 +1 15:04 I'm also going to clean out a bit the list, there is noise on it 15:04 k 15:04 sounds like consensus for next week then 15:04 jibel already added it to the list 15:04 :) 15:04 anything else? 15:04 Trevinho, lets talk distro patch next week 15:05 k, going to wrap in 10... 15:05 9.. 15:05 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)