== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team 2017-10-10, 10 Oct at 14:30 — 15:07 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-10-10-14.30.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === andyrock === The discussion about "andyrock" started at 14:31. === dgadomski === The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 14:32. === didrocks === The discussion about "didrocks" started at 14:33. === duflu === The discussion about "duflu" started at 14:34. === jbicha === The discussion about "jbicha" started at 14:35. === jamesh === The discussion about "jamesh" started at 14:37. === jibel/heber === The discussion about "jibel/heber" started at 14:41. === kenvandine === The discussion about "kenvandine" started at 14:43. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/GNOMESnaps === Laney === The discussion about "Laney" started at 14:46. === oSoMoN === The discussion about "oSoMoN" started at 14:47. === seb128 === The discussion about "seb128" started at 14:50. === tkamppeter === The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 14:52. === trevinho === The discussion about "trevinho" started at 14:53. === robert_ancell === The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 14:58. === AOB === The discussion about "AOB" started at 14:58. * ''LINK:'' https://mail.gnome.org/archives/distributor-list/2017-September/msg00000.html == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * seb128 (163) * ubot5 (27) * didrocks (20) * jibel (15) * oSoMoN (14) * jbicha (13) * jamesh (12) * heber (12) * kenvandine (9) * Trevinho (8) * tkamppeter (4) * dgadomski (3) * meetingology (3) == Full Log == 14:30 #startmeeting Desktop Team 2017-10-10 14:30 Meeting started Tue Oct 10 14:30:22 2017 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:30 14:30 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:30 Roll call: andyrock (out), dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney (out?), oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 14:30 I'm here. 14:30 o/ 14:30 jamesh, ah, good 14:30 don't forget to list your milestoned bugs and their status 14:31 o/ 14:31 o/ 14:31 ok, let's get started 14:31 #topic andyrock 14:31 o/ 14:31 he had to step out of a bit so his summary 14:31 1. lp:~azzar1/unity/lockscreen-dont-allow-multiple-failre-retry (to avoid weird GUI issue if the user upgrade manually from Z to A, not a big issue but still a bug!) 14:31 2. Some work on osk + gnome-shell: 14:31 2.1. don't show (by default) if pyshical keyboard present 14:31 2.2. show the osk just when the user touches an a text entry 14:31 3. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1714542 14:31 Ubuntu bug 1714542 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in st_theme_node_reduce_border_radius() from st_theme_node_paint_borders() from st_theme_node_paint()" [Medium,In progress] 14:31 3.1 Prepared a modified version of g-s to get more debug info 14:31 3.2 Prepared a distro patch to workaround the issue for the moment 14:31 4. Spent some time to make sure I can run g-s on wayland on X (using an artful chroot + jhbuild, I had to debug systemd issues etc.). This is useful to developers for several reasons (touch does not work with VM, don't want to update my main partion to A, etc.) 14:32 14:32 he has bug #1716160 milestoned which I'm testing a change for 14:32 bug 1716160 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Artful) "System goes to sleep with external monitor and lid closed after login" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1716160 14:32 next 14:32 #topic dgadomski 14:32 dgadomski, hey 14:32 hey 14:32 I was on the second part of my vacation last week, so nothing to share today. But this time I'm back for good ;) 14:32 eof 14:33 thanks dgadomski 14:33 #topic didrocks 14:33 didrocks, hey 14:33 ubuntu dock cherry-pick from dash to dock fixes after reporting: edge scroll fix, maximized window resized 14:33 Ambiance/Radiance theme fixes for background window not showing up proper action button. 14:33 glib sponsor fix for gsettings key (per session overrides leading to plugin list not loaded in rhythmbox) + merge with debian + debug & fix for i18n (desktop action on right clicks not being translated) in action mode (debian patch which needed fixing, reported it there thus). 14:33 Reset the gsettings key for rhythmbox plugin list if people didn't get our desired default (not destructing people who set their own plugin lists) 14:33 Reviewed unity7 keys trevhino + fix some gnome-session migration 14:33 Theme fixes review and discussion with Trevhino 14:33 Extensions indicator patch review and sponsoring 14:33 Debug on some GNOME Shell extensions said to be not working in our session bug. Some are due to our session (or GNOME Shell), other on the extensions themselves. All fixes need to be done in the extension 14:33 Contributed to 17.10 Release main page 14:34 Grab comments/feedback we got with top quotes on our default session work (over the 600+ comments on my blog) 14:34 . 14:34 thanks didrocks, good work as usual! 14:34 thx ;) 14:34 no milestoned bug assigned so we can move to the next one 14:34 #topic duflu 14:34 * Video acceleration: 14:34 - Completed final testing and documentation for 17.10's out-of-the-box experience: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntelQuickSyncVideo 14:34 - Sadly we just passed two months of my main VAAPI fix for totem/gstreamer being ignored upstream: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773453 14:34 - Happily, it still seems to be working well for Ubuntu users. 14:34 * Performance (https://trello.com/c/7zeMdP0S/240-fix-totem-performance) 14:34 Gnome bug 773453 in general "cluttersink: support GLTextureUpload for EGL/Wayland" [Normal,New] 14:34 - Proposed distro patch for artful to eliminate half of totem's CPU usage: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clutter-gtk/+bug/1698282 (upstream are now silent on the matter so just go with it...) 14:34 Ubuntu bug 1698282 in Clutter GTK "Totem uses dramatically higher CPU than any other video player" [Medium,Confirmed] 14:34 - Proposed distro patch to fix related GdkFrameClock smoothness: https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/gtk/fix-1698270/+merge/331846 (again, upstream have had the patch for a while but are silent still) 14:34 - Looks like these fixes will miss release. 14:34 * Appearance (https://trello.com/c/YgueNEZA/260-bug1714459-shell-panel-font-is-blurry-under-wayland) 14:34 - Prototyped and proposed to mutter upstream a fix for blurry shell text rendering in Wayland sessions: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645433 14:34 Gnome bug 645433 in wayland "gnome-shell's panel ignores font settings" [Normal,Assigned] 14:34 - This actually fixes all shell text including panel, menus, dialogs and the gdm login screen! 14:34 - Looks like this fix will also miss release... 14:34 * Other: 14:34 - Minor fix to upstream gnome-shell: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788752 14:35 Gnome bug 788752 in building "Meson fails with "File gnome-shell-sass/_colors.scss does not exist."" [Normal,New] 14:35 * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms and mir. 14:35 - Fully caught up on the bug backlog from travel. 14:35 14:35 k, that should be enough for people to read, next 14:35 #topic jbicha 14:35 jbicha, hey 14:35 • Packaged GNOME 3.26.1 14:35 • Helped slangasek remove thunderbird/s390x 14:35 • Added fonts-indic to desktop-common 14:35 • Fixed LP: #1721802 upstream and in Ubuntu 14:35 Launchpad bug 1721802 in gnome-control-center "About doesn't show about page" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721802 14:35 • Filed LP: #1720262 upstream. I think I'd rather not remove the Actions from the .desktop because that could cause a translation problem when we want to re-enable it. 14:35 Launchpad bug 1720262 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Artful) "gnome-screenshot Actions don't work in default Ubuntu 17.10 session" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1720262 14:36 so how do we mark that? 14:36 eof 14:36 comment saying it's going to be fixed in a sru? 14:36 I'm not sure upstream reassigned correctly btw 14:36 gnome-screenshot displays the "fallback to x11" when the dbus call to the screenshoter fails 14:36 but in this case I think it failing is a gnome-shell bug 14:37 since the call is correctly made 14:37 but the file is never stored on disk 14:37 I'm going to comment upstream with some details later I think 14:37 thanks jbicha 14:37 #topic jamesh 14:37 jamesh, hey 14:38 snapd: work on getting my user-mounts branch to perform mounts while running as 14:38 regular user with privileges (needed to support xdg-document-portal) 14:38 gnome-control-center: track down whoopsie restart loop (bug #1720331). I have 14:38 a patch that seems to stabilise the switch, but whoopsie-preferences might need 14:38 a change to fully fix the problem. Will have the g-c-c packaging merge request ready tomorrow. 14:38 snap forums: followed up on various desktop related threads (content interface as a solution for cups plugins, problems with file choosers) 14:38 bug 1720331 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Whoopsie continually relaunching" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1720331 14:38 eof 14:38 * didrocks is amazed that jamesh is still around at that time 14:38 didrocks: it's an hour earlier this week, and I just got back from dinner 14:38 dedication :) 14:38 (and I'd forgotten to send a status update by email) 14:39 jamesh, bug #1722195 and bug #1721735 are targetted to artful and assigned to you but they are rather recent, did you look at them yet? 14:39 bug 1722195 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Artful) "no policy kit auth dialog to install or remove a snap" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1722195 14:39 bug 1721735 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Artful) "UbuntuOne auth dialog is displayed when polkit auth dialog is dismissed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721735 14:40 seb128: we were discussing them in an email thread with will, robert, and jibel. I haven't made any progress on them beyond that. 14:41 k 14:41 thanks jamesh 14:41 next 14:41 #topic jibel/heber 14:41 Hey! QA Status: 14:41 * Daily triaging 14:41 * More upgrade tests (update-manager crashes on wayland, synaptics -> libinput transition, migration script failure) 14:41 * Moved private desktop dashboard to desktop.kpi.canonical.com 14:41 * Added ISO size to the main dashboard 14:41 seb128: for the second one, the short term fix might be to just #ifdef out the auth dialog support in gnome-software: a real fix would require snapd changes that probably won't make it 14:41 * Tested support for policy kit for snap packages in gnome-software 14:41 * Wrote test plan for the policy kit support for snap packages 14:41 * Implement DBUS service for gnome integration tests 14:41 * Implement test runner for gnome integration tests 14:41 EOF 14:41 s/gnome/gnome-shell/ 14:41 thanks heber :) 14:41 jibel, :) 14:42 jibel, did you manage to verify if bug #1715330 is fixed for you? 14:42 bug 1715330 in mutter (Ubuntu Artful) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in _cogl_boxed_value_set_x()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1715330 14:42 seb128, not yet 14:42 k 14:43 thanks jibel heber 14:43 #topic kenvandine 14:43 kenvandine, hey 14:43 * Did a round of manual testing on all our GNOME snaps in the edge channel and promoted them to stable. 14:43 * Worked on snapping Geary, webkit has proven to have issues in a snap. libwebkitgtk thinks the web process binaries are installed under /usr/lib. I've created a webkitgtk build snap that should honor WEBKIT_EXEC_PATH, but haven't been able to build Geary using the build snap yet. 14:43 * Working on updating the Remmina snap, maintained upstream, to include the desktop and wayland interfaces as well as utilize the gnome platform snap. 14:43 * Working with popey to finish up the elementary sdk build snap 14:43 eof 14:43 kenvandine, where is the list of all our gnome snaps? 14:44 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/GNOMESnaps 14:45 thanks 14:45 jibel, it would be nice to automate some testing of those :) 14:45 i'm going to get automated builds going 14:45 kenvandine, indeed, snaps on desktop is one of our priority 14:46 +1 14:46 thanks kenvandine 14:46 #topic Laney 14:46 Laney, around? 14:47 I guess not and I didn't see a summary via email 14:47 k, let's move on then 14:47 #topic oSoMoN 14:47 oSoMoN, hey 14:47 hey there 14:47 • chromium-browser 61.0.3163.100 stable update published to trusty, xenial, zesty, artful 14:47 • updated chromium beta to 62.0.3202.45 14:47 • still trying to solve the chromium 62 on trusty build problems, as it will soon become stable (ETA next week) 14:47 • investigated further bug #1697641 14:47 bug 1697641 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Chromium doesn't open OSK under GNOME Shell" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1697641 14:47 • investigated and discussed bug #1718446, proposed fix upstream and waiting for feedback 14:47 bug 1718446 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Ensure wayland -> xorg fallback to the corresponding session" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718446 14:47 • investigated bug #1662031, acked Gunnar's proposed fix and reported upstream to look for a more generic solution 14:47 bug 1662031 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Artful) "Switching language and format broken" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1662031 14:47 • filed bug #1722151 14:47 bug 1722151 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "Incorrect syntax when writing to ~/.pam_environment" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1722151 14:47 ^D 14:48 thanks for the work on those gdm issues 14:48 what's the status of the fallback one? blocking on upstream? 14:48 do you think we should distro patch your change? 14:49 I just had an idea of a possibly less intrusive change, I'm going to experiment with it now 14:49 nice 14:49 I'd rather have upstream ack the patch before distro patching 14:49 right but freeze is thursday 14:49 yes 14:49 so it's tight 14:49 anyway let's rediscuss it later or tomorrow 14:50 thanks oSoMoN 14:50 let's see if I can get halfline to comment on it today 14:50 that would be great 14:50 thx 14:50 next 14:50 #topic seb128 14:51 - sponsored orca fix from andyroc_k 14:51 - reverted g-s-d changes to drop setting of ibus in favor of initial setup which we don't use 14:51 - debugged/backport udisk fix for audio/blank cds 14:51 - updated poppler to re-enable its openjpeg decoder so images can be displayed in pdf again 14:51 - debugging/fixed the g-s-d housekeeping dbus service not working 14:51 - discussed gdm/locale changes 14:51 - recent bugs & e.u.c daily triaging 14:51 - updated langpacks and tested a bit the current french translations 14:52 my milestoned bugs are fix commited 14:52 outside of an ubiquity/orca issue which I know how to fix but didn't get to it, on my list for today or tomorrow 14:52 next 14:52 #topic tkamppeter 14:52 tkamppeter, hey 14:52 - ippusbxd: Released 1.31 with bug fixes, especially a missing 'TAG+="systemd"' in the UDV rules file added. 14:52 - UDEV/systemd: Tested auto-setup of USB printers which does not work any more -> bug 1721839 Did additional tests together with xnox via IRC and found escaping issues as possible cause. xnox is busy with other systemd issues, so solution probably only as an early-term SRU. 14:52 - Release Notes: Added updated info about driverless printing and the USB auto-setup issue. 14:52 - Bugs. 14:52 bug 1721839 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Services asked for by UDEV do not get triggered" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721839 14:53 thanks tkamppeter 14:53 #topic trevinho 14:53 · Migrate properly font scale settings from unity to gnome, keeping 14:53 unity settings in a different namespace 14:53 · Some debugging in mutter crashes (but without many luck, due to 14:53 missing infos on crash dumps). 14:53 · Fixed theme notebook's tab backdrop state 14:53 · Fixed suggested-action theming to be more consistent with ambiance 14:53 · Use inverted decoration gradient in maximized windows (let's decide 14:54 the bottom gradient color and land it) 14:54 · Experiments and analisys with some cool cloud-related project 14:54 · Fixed ubuntu gtk-2 themes with proper menu colors and support for 14:54 mate desktop apps 14:54 · Fixed issue with app-indicators not showing again after lock-screen 14:54 or any enable/disable (actually it's an apps bug!). 14:54 (hi!) 14:54 Trevinho, you forgot the review of your milestoned bugs. bug #1716056 you seem to work on and have a fix for bug #1714504 14:54 bug 1716056 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu Artful) "Multiple context menus appearing" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1716056 14:54 bug 1714504 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu Artful) "App indicator is not always displayed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714504 14:54 but bug #1717923, is that fixed? 14:54 bug 1717923 in Mutter "17.10 GNOME: Unable to log in: invalid monitor configuration, Logical monitors not adjecent" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717923 14:55 bug #1716341 as well, I think it is in .1? 14:55 bug 1716341 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Artful) "Settings for external monitor are deleted after reboot, suspension, log out" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1716341 14:56 seb128: we can't reproduce 1717923 the crash, the fix to ignore wrong config seems to worl and it's already in 3.26.1 14:56 oh, and hey Trevinho-who-never-sleeps :-) 14:56 Trevinho, can you comment on the bug/close the one fixed? 14:56 Trevinho, thanks, and good work as usual :-) 14:56 I asked for feedback, was waiting for some reply before... but ok 14:57 also I liked my tb context menu better before, unsure if that's your gtk2 fixes to blame :p 14:57 Trevinho, it's fine, please just include the status of milestoned bugs next week in the summary 14:57 Trevinho, thanks! 14:57 seb128: I didn't land that yet,so no 14:57 k, so it's tb itself I guess 14:57 moving on then 14:57 tb is gtk3 now, right? 14:57 jbicha, could be? 14:58 is that recent? 14:58 I didn't look much, just that the context menu doesn't look nice 14:58 yeah, so it should be 14:58 cool 14:58 thanks Trevinho 14:58 #topic robert_ancell 14:58 seb128: ah, need to figure what to do with the panel mode in maximized windows 14:58 Artful release bugs: 14:58 - Issues with GNOME Software installing / removing snaps - fix being testing in ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gnome-software (LP: #1721740) (LP: #1721765) 14:58 - GNOME Software high CPU usage - being investigated (LP: #1716579) 14:58 - GNOME Software cancellation issues - being investigated (LP: #1722183) (LP: #1721762) 14:58 Other work: 14:58 - GNOME Software 3.26.1 package update to artful. 14:58 - Fix average ratings in GNOME Software Xenial 14:58 Launchpad bug 1721740 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Artful) "Impossible to install snap: Unexpected change ID returned" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721740 14:58 Launchpad bug 1721765 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Artful) "UI is not updated when a snap is removed" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721765 14:58 - Refactoring in snapd-glib to handle requests during async operations correctly. 14:58 - Migrating LightDM bzr branch to git for moving to GitHub. 14:58 Launchpad bug 1716579 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Artful) "gnome-software uses a very high cpu amount" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1716579 14:58 Launchpad bug 1722183 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Artful) "When several snaps are being installed, cancelling an installation does not cancel the right one." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1722183 14:58 Launchpad bug 1721762 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Artful) "Cancelled installation of snap continues" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721762 14:58 #topic AOB 14:59 Trevinho, some more panel fun? ;-) 14:59 bug #1722479 also around the lines of panel/color/etc 14:59 bug 1722479 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Dock and panel are different opacity/transparency/colour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1722479 14:59 anyway 14:59 any other topic to discuss today? 15:00 upstream says that we shouldn't offer empathy 3.25 but use 3.12.14 instead (still has the webkit2 migration) so we might have an ugly version number for that 15:00 o/ 15:00 (panel/dock color will always be different as we have a gradient on top) 15:00 seb128: yeah, I mean I've a branch done but didrocks doesn't like it, duflu thinks it's better and andyrock too, but not perfect, however still an improvement.... it's all about finding the proper color 15:00 jbicha, why? 15:01 upstream says 3.25 is too buggy, it may take months before it's fixed(?) 15:01 k, fine then 15:01 Trevinho: As discussed, I prefer your second proposal, but with some rework on the traditional titlebar (lighter color), you told you could do this but didn't see any movement? 15:01 Trevinho, didrocks, let's continue discussing those tweaks later, it's not something we are going to resolve in a meeting I guess... 15:01 I don't think anyway it's something really important in general, we had that for a big part of the cycle and 2 weeks before release is late for such change 15:01 +1 15:02 (well, just after meeting) 15:02 k 15:02 https://mail.gnome.org/archives/distributor-list/2017-September/msg00000.html 15:02 jbicha, thanks 15:02 any other topic to discuss then? ;-) 15:02 yes 15:02 didrocks: I didn't tonight, I did last week, but since I'm quite happy with both, i'd prefer you guys to pick the colors :-D 15:02 nothing from me :) 15:02 jibel, yes? 15:03 sorry I didn't see your o/ first 15:03 as every knows release is next week, we'll have an UbuntuOnAri Hangout on Monday 15:03 to talk about ISO testing and all the tips and tricks 15:03 more details on the community hub https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-17-10-community-iso-testing/458 15:03 UbuntuOnAir* 15:04 ... 15:04 good 15:04 nice! 15:04 do you need anything for the team? 15:04 participants? feedback? 15:05 participants from all flavors, testers, and feedback (bug reports ...) 15:05 it'd be nice to have people testing on hardware too 15:05 right 15:05 everyone, please join in testing, feedback, etc 15:06 thanks jibel 15:06 other topics? 15:07 seems not? it's a wrap then 15:07 thanks everybody 15:07 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)