== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team 2017-09-19, 19 Sep at 15:30 — 16:10 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-09-19-15.30.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === didrocks === The discussion about "didrocks" started at 15:35. === duflu === The discussion about "duflu" started at 15:36. === jbicha === The discussion about "jbicha" started at 15:37. === jibel/heber === The discussion about "jibel/heber" started at 15:40. === kenvandine === The discussion about "kenvandine" started at 15:42. === Laney === The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:42. === oSoMoN === The discussion about "oSoMoN" started at 15:44. === seb128 === The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:46. === tkamppeter === The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:47. === Trevinho === The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:50. === robert_ancell === The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:56. === aob === The discussion about "aob" started at 15:56. * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-incoming-bug-tasks.html == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * seb128 (141) * Laney (42) * Trevinho (20) * didrocks (19) * jbicha (16) * ubot5 (15) * tkamppeter (14) * oSoMoN (14) * andyrock (9) * heber (9) * dgadomski (4) * meetingology (3) * popey (2) == Full Log == 15:30 #startmeeting Desktop Team 2017-09-19 15:30 Meeting started Tue Sep 19 15:30:19 2017 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:30 15:30 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:30 Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber (out), kenvandine (out), laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter(out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 15:30 hey 15:30 hello guys! 15:30 o/ 15:30 o/ 15:30 jbicha: no, why does it matter? 15:30 o/ 15:31 o/ 15:31 it probably doesn't matter except we should probably do the same thing there on Debian and Ubuntu 15:31 k, let's get started 15:31 jbicha, Laney, topic for another channel or post meeting? 15:31 andyrock, hey 15:32 ok 15:32 hey 15:32 # Implementing progress-bar in ubuntu-dock 15:32 # Ported the lockcreen-missing-entry from xenial to artful 15:32 # Writing a fix to workaround bug 1532508 15:32 bug 1532508 in GNOME Shell "Screen shown briefly after opening closed laptop lid, before even unlocking" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1532508 15:32 # eow 15:33 andyrock, did you see they had patches up for review upstream for that lockscreen/gnome-shell issue? 15:33 yep, basically it's the same idea 15:33 k, but better than what they did? ;-) 15:33 easier 15:33 anyway, I just wanted to point it out in case you didn't see their version 15:33 thanks andyrock! 15:33 yw! 15:34 dgadomski, hey 15:34 hey 15:34 * prepared a set of benchmarks for bug #1638695 with various build-time options, will prepare some more 15:34 * proposed a patch for #1699179 after testing (waiting for review) 15:34 bug 1638695 in python2.7 (Ubuntu Xenial) "Python 2.7.12 performance regression" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1638695 15:34 seb128, jibel: cups-filters 1.17.7 uploaded. 15:34 eof 15:34 tkamppeter, thanks 15:34 dgadomski, thanks 15:34 shrug 15:35 I screwed up bot commands (somebody could have told me!) 15:35 #topic didrocks 15:35 didrocks, hey 15:35 hey 15:35 * Final touch to GDM with adding ubuntu logo to login screen 15:35 * Change alt-tab behavior by advanced alt-tab in G-S + blog post (https://didrocks.fr/2017/09/14/ubuntu-gnome-shell-in-artful-day-12/). Continuing the discussion in the upstream bug report. 15:35 * glib2.0 merge 15:35 * Review whoopsie integration patch for g-c-c and sponsored. 15:35 * update mutter/G-S/G-S-E to 3.26 15:35 * Shuffle some keybindings in the dock to be more consitent both with keyboard shortcut or keyboard + mouse 15:35 * Work with Dash to Dock upstream in testing and advice them on dynamic transparency. FFe/UIFe for Ubuntu dock. Upload + blog post planned tomorrow morning. 15:35 . 15:36 thanks didrocks 15:36 nice work as usual, I like the ubuntu logo on the login screen ;-) 15:36 yeah, it's less empty ;) (and thanks!) 15:36 k, next one 15:36 #topic duflu 15:36 * Performance: 15:36 - TLDR: Still jumping between CPU fixes and smoothness fixes which are interacting with each other... 15:36 - Prototyped and proposed the first fixes for GTK stuttering: 15:36 . https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787665 15:36 - The stutter bugs are blocking the CPU-halving fix to clutter-gtk/totem, which exaggerates the issues. 15:36 Gnome bug 787665 in .General "gdk_frame_clock_get_frame_time is irregular and causing stuttering" [Normal,New] 15:36 - Unfortunately this has revealed a new problem with the design of clutter's GDK backend -- If you modify it to perform efficiently per the design of wl_subsurface then it no longer gets accurate monitor timing info. It works OK (guessing 60Hz instead of 59.95Hz) but is not ideal, and does constitute a new regression that would occur as a result of fixing the high CPU problem. This is actually a design bug in clutter 15:36 (gdk<->clutter clock linking) more than anything else, so is difficult to fix and a difficult conversation with upstream for later. 15:37 - I will certainly still be working on this in New York next week. 15:37 * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms and mir. 15:37 * Travel planning and preparation. My flight departs about the same time as this meeting. I am now traveling and on vacation briefly. Catch you next week... 15:37 #topic jbicha 15:37 jbicha, hey 15:37 • Packaged most of GNOME 3.26 15:37 • Added gnome-language-selector button to gnome-control-center as workaround for LP: #1631750 15:37 Launchpad bug 1631750 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Language installation doesn't work in Ubuntu GNOME 16.10 Settings app" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1631750 15:37 • Filed LP: #1717946 and LP: #1717951 15:37 Launchpad bug 1717946 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "UIFe: Drop xterm and xdiagnose from default install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717946 15:37 Launchpad bug 1717951 in imagemagick (Ubuntu) "UIFe: Drop imagemagick-display from the default install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717951 15:38 • Filed MIRs for 2 LibreOffice deps LP: #1717926 LP: #1717930 15:38 Launchpad bug 1717926 in libzmf (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libzmf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717926 15:38 Launchpad bug 1717930 in libstaroffice (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libstaroffice" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717930 15:38 • Working with tkamppeter on system-config-printer presence in 17.10 LP: #1718083 15:38 Launchpad bug 1718083 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "UIFe: Add Additional Printer Settings button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718083 15:38 eof 15:38 nice work jbicha on 3.26 + various patches :) 15:38 thanks jbicha, lot of good work there 15:39 jbicha, do you plan to handle the extra printing button to g-c-c? (just asking, if you don't I'm going to have a look) 15:39 seb128: feel free to work on that 15:39 k 15:39 thanks jbicha 15:39 seb128: if you want, I can handle that tomorrow 15:39 (the extra button) 15:39 + the string change on placement 15:39 didrocks, if you want to do it feel free 15:40 will do thus 15:40 thanks! 15:40 ok, next 15:40 #topic jibel/heber 15:40 jibel, heber, hey 15:40 Hey! QA updates: 15:40 * Triaged printing bug (qpdf / cups-filter version do not match) 15:40 * Analyze testflinger provisioning failures for Artful 15:40 * Propose new KPIs for ubuntu desktop 15:40 * Analyze/Fix ust broken tests 15:40 * Define and test auto-upgrade jobs timeout 15:40 EOF 15:41 heber, do you sync up with jibel for summaries? 15:41 he sent one by email which overlap with yours but is slightly different 15:41 I'm going to copy it anyway but would be nice if you had one version in the futur 15:41 seb128, we fill one doc, but it might be out of sync as well 15:41 - KPI: errors.u.c: http://platform-qa-dashboard.canonical.com/dashboard/db/ubuntu-desktop-kpi 15:41 - New indicators: 15:41 - Delay to publish from proposed to the release pocket. 15:41 - Number of packages of the desktop package set published daily 15:41 - Percentage of packages with a distro patch published daily. 15:41 - SRU verification of update-manager 15:41 - Weekly verification of upgrade from Z to A 15:41 - Tested new gdm (session selection bug) 15:41 - Triaged console-setup bug (ctrl+c terminates the session) 15:42 thanks heber 15:42 #topic kenvandine 15:42 * Created a gnome-3-26 PPA for 3.26 backports to xenial 15:42 * Created new gnome-3-26-1604 platform snap (naming to match forum discussion for auto-connection) 15:42 * Started building 3.26 versions of existing gnome snaps 15:42 * Working on fixing an issue popey reported against snapcraft-desktop-helpers which causes apps that use various APIs like get_user_special_dir to get paths fail. 15:42 #topic Laney 15:42 Laney, hey 15:42 * popey hugs seb128 15:42 hi 15:43 feel like I forgot a lot of stuff in this but my notebook is downstairs 15:43 /o\ 15:43 • autopkgtest: 15:43 ∘ worked on bringing lgw01 back up after the re-deploy 15:43 ∘ learned some lessons from that when looking at bos02 (arm64/s390x cloud) 15:43 ‣ played with that to see what was working 15:43 ‣ filed a few tickets to get missing stuff fixed 15:43 ∘ holding the hand of armhf workers 15:43 • uploaded the new wallpapers 15:43 • tracked down another console-setup / tty keyboard mode bug 15:43 • Add DESKTOP_SESSION parameterised directory to XDG_DATA_DIRS under wayland too 15:43 • triaged trello cards & stuff for 18.04 prep 15:43 • reviewed quite a few freeze exceptions 15:43 🃏 15:43 popey, that was the summary for ken if the hug has to do with the work listed :-) 15:44 kenvandine does the work, and seb128 gets the hugs 15:44 He's had far too many hugs recently. You deserve one too :) 15:44 thanks :-) 15:44 oSoMoN, that's what managers are for :p 15:44 #topic oSoMoN 15:44 hey 15:45 • chromium 61.0.3163.79 ready for publication 15:45 • chromium beta updated to 62.0.3202.18 and dev updated to 63.0.3213.3 for all series except trusty 15:45 • libreoffice 5.4.1-0ubuntu1 now in artful, thanks Seb 15:45 • working around bug #1714520 in libreoffice snap by disabling wayland support in desktop helper for now, will get to the bottom of this next week in NYC 15:45 bug 1714520 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] libreoffice 5.4.x snap crashes at startup on wayland" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1714520 15:45 • fixed bug #1703813 and bug #1713742 in libreoffice snap 15:45 bug 1703813 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] missing removable-media plug" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1703813 15:45 bug 1713742 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] libreoffice 5.4.0 snap has incorrect file permissions for some files installed by stage packages" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1713742 15:45 • got affected by bug #1710637 and found out that snapd is causing the issue (thanks Laney!) 15:45 bug 1710637 in Snappy "Input falls through to gdm3 and terminates the session on Ctrl+C after udevadm trigger is executed under wayland" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1710637 15:45 • filed bug #1718026 and got a good surprise, it's already fixed in the upcoming snapd 2.28 15:45 bug 1718026 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Applications from installed snaps don't appear in activities overview" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718026 15:45 • looking into issues with firefox snap 15:45 • preparing topics for conversations next week 15:45 🗽 15:46 oSoMoN, thanks! 15:46 #topic seb128 15:46 - not a lot of work done this week since I had 3 days off (some carry over item from previous week listed as well due to that) 15:46 - created new g-c-c panel for the ubuntu session settings 15:46 - update-notifier wayland fixes 15:46 - updated unity universe composent to be translatables on launchpad (indicator-appmenu, indicator-messages, indicator-printers, indicator-bluetooth, indicator-sound) 15:46 - trello board reviews 15:46 - triaged recent launchpad bugs 15:46 - reported some issues upstream, debugged some on the way 15:46 15:47 #topic tkamppeter 15:47 - cups-filters: Got a lot of patches for Braille embossing 15:47 - avahi: Found a volunteer for working on the localhost support for IPP-over-USB! It is Rithvik Patibandla, one of the students who worked in this year's GSoC on the new Qt print dialog. 15:47 - LibreOffice: The improvements on the print dialog in LibreOffice to support common print dialog backends to always support the current print technologies, the GSoC-2017 project of Yash Srivastav, was accepted by LibreOffice upstream. 15:47 - cups: Packaged 2.2.4-7 with fixes for an every-second wake-up of the CUPS daemon and for the print quality option in print queues for driverless printers. 15:47 - Preparations for the trip to NYC. 15:47 - Bugs. 15:48 In addition: Uploaded cups-filters 1.17.7 to get more braille fixes in and to trigger a package build to fit QPDF 7.0.0. 15:48 thanks tkamppeter, have a nice trip and enjoy NY during the few days you are spending there before the rally 15:48 seb128, thanks. 15:48 seb128, a question: How do I reserve a slot for a lightning talk on Wed or Thu? 15:49 seb128, About driverless printing. 15:49 tkamppeter, I don't know but I'm going to ask and get you one 15:49 but I expect people are going to be able to add themselve to the list next week 15:49 thanks tkamppeter 15:49 tkamppeter, there's a tab on the rally spreadsheet where you can add yourself 15:49 seb128, thanks. Please not on Fri, as I want to present a demo and last year I was in the last slot and they have taken the network down. 15:50 tkamppeter, noted 15:50 oSoMoN, oh, good to know! 15:50 oSoMoN, thanks, I did not know that I can simply write there. 15:50 ok, let's see if Marco is still with us of if you didn't resist to the pool attraction 15:50 #topic Trevinho 15:50 oh yes.. 15:50 Trevinho, hey 15:50 :-) 15:51 · Continued some mutter fixes 15:51 · Redone the .destructive-action buttons style in themes 15:51 · Done landing of theme fixes 15:51 · Fixed .vertical .linked buttons style, rotating gradients and supporting middle-buttons 15:51 · Refactored the cmake file for testing in unity7, splitting them all to avoid false-positive failures 15:51 · Fixed a Float comparison not working in arm64, still checking ppc64 issues 15:51 - EOF 15:51 he's trolling me right? 15:51 lol 15:51 yes >/D 15:52 :-p 15:52 No, my keyboard layout changed.... 15:52 no worry 15:52 thanks Trevinho! 15:52 did you manage to get unblocked on the unity7 build issues? 15:52 or still needing access to some porter box with a specific env? 15:53 seb128, oSoMoN: Thanks, I have entered myself now. 15:53 seb128: the only issue I've now is witha ppc64 test issue 15:53 which... I'm looking into, but testing isn't easy having no a porter 15:53 I might just disable tests there 15:54 yeah, feel free 15:54 I don't think we care much about unity7 on ppc64 15:54 Agree... 15:54 I just don't like failures, as sometimes they are just pointing out that something is wrong 15:55 just not happening in ther archs because of timing or other rasons 15:55 reasons* 15:55 right, would still be good to debug if we can 15:55 but probably lower priority than other work/bugs atm 15:55 anyway 15:55 thanks Trevinho 15:55 yep... just wanted to get rid of this 15:56 #topic robert_ancell 15:56 - Released GNOME Software 3.26.0 to artful 15:56 - Chasing up SRUs 15:56 - Diagnosing GNOME Software stability / performance issues in artful 15:56 - Backported auth dialog changes to GNOME Software 3.20 (Xenial) 15:56 - Diagnosed why snaps take up more space in GNOME Software search results - turns out to be carriage returns coming from the Snap store. 15:56 as andyrock has to land some big fixes to unity7, which will have to go to a, in order to be SRUed too 15:56 - Updated versions page to track current package state 15:56 #topic aob 15:56 Trevinho, right 15:56 so, anything else to discuss? 15:57 not from me this week :) 15:58 oh, I'll probably start working on the Artful Release Notes this week since the Beta is coming up soon 15:58 that will be great! I think you might want to talk with kenvandine as well as GNOME is publishing some transitional documentation 15:58 ok 15:58 so we can reference/pick some work done there 16:00 jbicha, we should probably give an hand there, thanks for pointing out 16:00 I'm going to add it to the rally agenda 16:00 thanks jbicha 16:00 so I guess it's a wrap 16:00 NO 16:00 yes, it's a team effort for the release notes :) 16:00 Laney, no? 16:01 we should look at 16:01 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-incoming-bug-tasks.html 16:01 ah, yes 16:01 we should probably tag things as well 16:01 that list is short compared to the things we need to fix 16:02 can we freely tag what we put on the list? /me can do with the important bugs I have in mind tomorrow 16:02 sure, but things already on there need to be triaged and assigned 16:02 the idea is that you nominate them or tag rls-aa-notfixing 16:02 right 16:02 so we should add that tag to bugs that look important to fix before release? 16:02 then they go to http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html and get fixed ... 16:02 thanks for pointing that out Laney 16:02 yes 16:03 or we can nominate a bug to artful directly if we have permissions, right? 16:03 it should still be tagged to be listed? 16:04 i think the nomination alone is enough 16:04 ok 16:04 that was a good reminder 16:04 but jbicha shouldn't really be assigning work to the desktop team so the incoming procedure is appropriate 16:04 thanks Laney! 16:04 indeed 16:04 um it wasn't meant to be a reminder 16:04 or... if itis to be used as one 16:04 ok 16:04 when do we go triage the list? 16:05 Laney, sounds like a topic for next monday as we review trello boards/plans/etc? 16:05 or would you prefer to do it before that? 16:05 i don't think we have so many work days left this cycle 16:05 right, which is a bit of a shame 16:05 I'm going to have a first pass on the list/tag some bugs tomorrow 16:06 Laney, do you think we should have a collective review, or maybe just go through, assign/close the ones that are obvious and bring on the channel for the others? 16:06 I think everything should get assigned to someone and then we should look at incoming / tracking each meeting 16:07 +1 16:07 not sure 16:07 some can probably be cleaned off straight away 16:07 k 16:07 like I don't know why bdmurray tagged http://launchpad.net/bugs/500175 16:07 Ubuntu bug 500175 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Canceling an installation in Software Center crashes debconf with "Use of uninitialized value $reply in scalar chomp at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Passthrough.pm line 66,"" [Medium,Confirmed] 16:08 right 16:08 so yeah if you like feel free to dish them out 16:08 Laney, I need to wrap after the meeting but let's try to have an hangout with willcooke tomorrow morning? 16:08 review the list/assign 16:08 and then from now on we try to keep with it and do regular reviews 16:09 if people want to assign themself to some of those bugs, please do 16:09 can do, although I prefer it to be first thing so I can go to the library ;-) 16:09 alright 16:09 so people can expect to have some of these bugs assigned 16:09 please try to work on them if that happens 16:10 +1 16:10 and yeah, first thing would be good for me as well 16:10 ok, let's wrap on that note 16:10 thanks everyone! 16:10 and come to the team if you have issues rather than being stuck/blocked for days 16:10 :-) 16:10 thanks 16:10 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)