== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-02-07, 07 Feb at 15:30 — 15:50 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-02-07-15.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:33.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:33.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:34.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:36.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:36.


=== flexiondotorg ===
The discussion about "flexiondotorg" started at 15:37.


=== hikiko ===
The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:39.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:40.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:42.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:43.


=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:44.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:44.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:45.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:46.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:47.


=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 15:47.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (58)
 * Laney (17)
 * flexiondotorg (11)
 * FJKong (11)
 * seb128 (11)
 * Trevinho (10)
 * desrt (10)
 * hikiko (9)
 * qengho (8)
 * attente (5)
 * ubot5 (4)
 * meetingology (3)
 * qengho_ (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-02-07

 15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb  7 15:30:27 2017 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:30 <meetingology> 

 15:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:30 <willcooke> Lots of people out today

 15:30 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock (out), attente, desrt,  dgadomski(out), fjkong, flexiondotorg, happyaron (hols), hikiko, laney, qengho (out), seb128, sweet5hark (out), themuso (out), tkamppeter (hols), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 15:30 <hikiko> hi

 15:30 <seb128> hey Trevinho!

 15:30 <seb128> _o/

 15:30 <flexiondotorg> o/

 15:31 <qengho_> Hey! I'm here.

 15:31 <Trevinho> o/

 15:31 <Trevinho> (hi seb128)

 15:31 <Trevinho> (and Laney )

 15:31 <Trevinho> (and others...)

 15:31 <desrt> word.

 15:33 <willcooke> let's start

 15:33 <willcooke> #topic andyrock

 15:33 <willcooke> # worked on u8 branches after review

 15:33 <willcooke> # some reviews

 15:33 <willcooke> #topic attente

 15:33 <attente> hey

 15:33 <attente> set up a ppa for general gtk-mir testing: https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/ubuntu/gtk-mir

 15:33 <attente> best to test with miral-shell instead of u8. there are some weird scaling issues with u8 (doesn't render windows if the width or height are greater than 480 o.O)

 15:34 <attente> (eof)

 15:34 <willcooke> nice one, thanks attente

 15:34 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:34 <desrt> hai

 15:34 <desrt> had a couple of part days due to travel, but still a pretty good week

 15:34 <desrt> lots of good conversations at fosdem, and reviewed a bunch of patches (in-person nagging is very effective)

 15:35 <desrt> work continues on the proxy.  it's shaping up pretty nicely, and i expect it to be usableish by next meeting

 15:35 <desrt> apparmor patches still outstanding :/

 15:35 * willcooke makes a note to chase again

 15:35 <desrt> basically, aiming for gnome freezes here

 15:35 <desrt> eof

 15:36 <attente> feature freeze in a little over a week too...

 15:36 <willcooke> thanks desrt

 15:36 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski

 15:36 <willcooke> * working on bug #1598183 (testing patches suggested in upstream bug)

 15:36 <willcooke> * trying to reproduce bug #1646585

 15:36 <willcooke> * researching for bug #1654696

 15:36 <ubot5> bug 1598183 in gvfs "Operation not permitted while writing to symlinked fuse locations" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1598183

 15:36 <ubot5> bug 1646585 in Nvidia "oem-config replaces /etc/resolv.conf symlink with a hard file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1646585

 15:36 <ubot5> bug 1654696 in Nvidia "Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop ubiquity documentation is lacking" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1654696

 15:36 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:36 <FJKong> hi

 15:37 <FJKong> could you give me 1 min to prepare the update?

 15:37 <willcooke> FJKong, sure

 15:37 <FJKong> thx

 15:37 <willcooke> #topic flexiondotorg

 15:37 <flexiondotorg> Time appropriate greetings!

 15:37 <flexiondotorg> - Providing snap assistance to about a dozen ISVs and upstream projects currently.

 15:37 <flexiondotorg> - Drinking our own champagne. If there is a snap I've apt purged the debs and installed the snaps.

 15:37 <flexiondotorg> - Spotify snap tested by Spotify. Had feedback from Spotify, more improvements in progress and close to upstreaming. Meeting with them on Thursday.

 15:37 <flexiondotorg> - Assisting the Raspberry Pi Foundation with adding AppArmor to their kernel.

 15:37 <flexiondotorg> - Introduced Chad to John Cox from the Raspberry Pi Foundation regarding Chromium patches.

 15:37 <flexiondotorg> - Tested snaps, in particular classic snaps, on Ubuntu 14.04 (broken, but being fixed) and Debian 9 (working). snapd in Debian has had reexec reinstated recently.

 15:38 <flexiondotorg> - Helping some upstream Electron apps get snapping using pure Snapcraft and electron-builder. This is preparation ahead of more focused out reach to a number of high profile Electron projects.

 15:38 <flexiondotorg> 🎬

 15:38 <willcooke> thanks flexiondotorg

 15:38 <hikiko> +nice ascii

 15:38 <flexiondotorg> snap install emoj ;-)

 15:39 <willcooke> flexiondotorg, hikiko is working on the Mir b/e for Cr.  That will help / be of interest to Electron apps too soon.

 15:39 <willcooke> (plus andyrock is going to be helping on that too)

 15:39 <willcooke> #topic hikiko

 15:39 <hikiko> hi

 15:39 <hikiko> chromium: learning how gn and ninja work - i am now able to get compile errors

 15:39 <hikiko> from an almost empty "mir platform" under ozone (chromium doesn't use makefiles),

 15:39 <hikiko> got a look at mirclient code and mir basics, mir/miral servers etc

 15:39 <hikiko> lowgfx: fixed compiz (old lowgfx parts), some errors, about to do the review's fixes in ucc

 15:40 <hikiko> eof :)

 15:40 <hikiko> sorry

 15:40 <willcooke> thanks hikiko

 15:40 <willcooke> :)

 15:40 <willcooke> #topic Laney

 15:41 <Laney> ah crap, finding an emoji, one sec

 15:41 <Laney> OK!

 15:41 <Laney> • Went to FOSDEM - travelled & had a swap day

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ pink killer

 15:41 <Laney> • Verified gst 1.8.3 for xenial. It got released, but turns out there's a problem in -libav. Was only in proposed for like 3 months. Debugged that and filed an upstream bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778283 to see how they want it to be fixed.

 15:41 <willcooke> lol

 15:41 <ubot5> Gnome bug 778283 in gst-libav "gst-libav 1.8.3 loses encoders/decoders vs 1.8.2 when built with system ffmpeg 2.8.10" [Normal,New]

 15:41 <desrt> ...the important things in life

 15:41 <Laney> • asgen

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ worked on & pushed an efficiency improvement around base suites & stable releases

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ backported appstream to x/y

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ updated asgen in staging, tested the above fix, updated in production

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ as a bonus it should have fixed some other packages (e.g. wine works now)

 15:41 <Laney> • autopkgtest

 15:41 <desrt> +1 on pink killer

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ made it so that autopkgtest-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud and autopkgtest-virt-qemu can be used fully offline if you have a local archive mirror and a cloud image to hand (means you can run tests on the train for the next item)

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ worked on kernel oops detection in qemu runner during fosdem train - partially works, needs a bit more effort

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ issue with cp OOMing(!) on s390x when testing some packages, turned out to be hitting the limit on the lxc cgroup, which we were configuring to be 1800M. Raised that a bit

 15:41 <Laney> 🍶

 15:42 <willcooke> :D

 15:42 <willcooke> thanks a lot Laney

 15:42 <willcooke> qengho, are you really here?

 15:42 <qengho> Yep.

 15:42 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:42 <qengho> I can't do UTC to here math. :(

 15:42 <qengho> * in-progress: Debugging assertion failure in latest Chromium. It's a week old now. :( Must fix soon.

 15:42 <qengho> * in-progress: Upstreaming Cr patches from RPi dev.

 15:42 <qengho> * done: Updated browser test-snap.

 15:42 <qengho> * done: Some licensing research for legal team.

 15:43 <qengho> Also, helping tor get their bug fixes in X.

 15:43 <qengho> eof

 15:43 <willcooke> thanks qengho!

 15:43 <willcooke> #topic seb128

 15:43 <seb128> Laney, would be good if we had some sort of autopkgtest or such on -av to make sure we don't regress, I've to admit I've no clue how to properly test is to verify the SRU for example

 15:43 <seb128> oh

 15:43 <seb128> • removed old-unmainted unity scopes from zesty

 15:43 <seb128> • reviewed/discussed geonames changes proposed by aacid

 15:43 <seb128> • went to fosdem was nice to see $people there, some nice discussions/sessions (including Bjoern's and p_itti's)

 15:43 <seb128> • started looking at emails from #is about langpack jobs issues

 15:43 <seb128> • trying to keep up with snappy world discussions/changes

 15:43 <seb128> • usual distro work (launchpads bugs triages, helped people on IRC, ...)

 15:43 <seb128> </week>

 15:44 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:44 <willcooke> - Thursday, Tuesday: travel

 15:44 <willcooke> - Friday: TDF BoD all-day meeting

 15:44 <willcooke> - Saturday, Sunday: FOSDEM

 15:44 <willcooke> - Monday, Tuesday: LibreOffice Hackfest https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2017

 15:44 <willcooke> - LibreOffice 5.3.0.3 snap update

 15:44 <willcooke> - found various snap launchpad/store upload issues, workarounds

 15:44 <willcooke> - LibreOffice 5.3.0.3 to prereleases ppa

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso

 15:44 <willcooke> * Contined looking into possible patches to backport from pulseaudio upstream for Xenial. Still testing and trying to determine how much can be backported without possibly breaking too much or changing too much of pulseaudio itself, if any. Was going to send a patch list to Konrad, but I haven't yet got a patch list finalized yet.

 15:44 <willcooke> * Trying to chase down a race condition at unity 7 desktop load in zesty. Sometimes the unity panel is accessible, sometimes not. For whatever reason, unity-panel-service often starts before at-spi and doesn't end up registerring its presence in the registry daemon.

 15:44 <willcooke> * Started looking into possibly getting espeak dropped from main if that hasn't happened automatically already, now that brltty and speech-dispatcher dont explicitly pull in espeak, and use espeak-ng instead.

 15:45 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho

 15:45 <Trevinho> · Some updates to various snapcraft PRs (tests, refactoring)

 15:45 <Trevinho> · Updated Qt patches

 15:45 <Trevinho> · Prepared packages update to backport qt patches to ubuntu

 15:46 <Trevinho> · attended FOSDEM

 15:46 <Trevinho> · Remmina upstream work for snapcraft push through travis

 15:46 <Trevinho> EOF

 15:46 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 15:47 <willcooke> - Landed snap:// support upstream in gnome-software

 15:47 <willcooke> - New features for snapd-glib

 15:47 <willcooke> - Small snapd fixes and documentation improvements

 15:47 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:47 <FJKong> back

 15:47 <FJKong> learn about merge:

 15:47 <FJKong> 1 pygtk #1662101 finish and waiting for upload

 15:47 <FJKong> 2 subversion still in progressing

 15:47 <FJKong> just back from holiday

 15:47 <FJKong> not too much to update here

 15:47 <FJKong> eof

 15:47 <willcooke> thanks FJKong

 15:47 <willcooke> #topic AOB

 15:48 <willcooke> Anyone got any other news they want to share?

 15:48 <Laney> FJKong: no diff on there

 15:48 <FJKong> Laney: pygtk?

 15:49 <Laney> yes

 15:50 <willcooke> If no one has anything, let's close the meeting and Laney and FJKong can continue

 15:50 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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