== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop Meeting, 06 Dec at 15:30 — 15:56 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-12-06-15.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:33.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:36.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:39.

  * ''LINK:'' https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/irRFZIiQ/ 

=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:40.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:41.


=== flexiondotorg ===
The discussion about "flexiondotorg" started at 15:42.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:44.


=== hikiko ===
The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:45.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:46.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:49.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:50.


=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:50.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:51.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:51.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:52.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:53.


=== aob ===
The discussion about "aob" started at 15:53.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * seb128 (92)
 * Laney (12)
 * flexiondotorg (10)
 * andyrock (10)
 * attente (10)
 * FJKong (9)
 * Sweet5hark (9)
 * Trevinho (9)
 * hikiko (8)
 * dgadomski (7)
 * qengho (7)
 * tkamppeter (5)
 * desrt (5)
 * ubot5 (4)
 * meetingology (3)
 * tjaalton (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:30 <seb128> #startmeeting

 15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec  6 15:30:53 2016 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:30 <meetingology> 

 15:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:30 <desrt> it's on seb128 to save us!

 15:32 <seb128> hey everyone

 15:32 <desrt> seb128: rollcall helps

 15:32 <seb128> desrt, I know, was checking email to know who is out ;-)

 15:32 <seb128> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong (out), flexiondotorg, happyaron, hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 15:32 <Sweet5hark> .

 15:32 <flexiondotorg> 'elo

 15:32 <andyrock> hey

 15:33 * FJKong wave hello

 15:33 <seb128> indeed, rollcall works!

 15:33 <Laney> hi

 15:33 <seb128> FJKong, hey, didn't you say you were out on tuesday?

 15:33 <desrt> 'sup

 15:33 <seb128> k, let's get started

 15:33 <seb128> #topic andyrock

 15:33 <seb128> andyrock, hey

 15:33 <andyrock> hey

 15:34 <andyrock> I'm still working on adding the windows list to the unity8 quicklist

 15:34 <andyrock> the code is almost there but I'm having issues testing it

 15:34 <andyrock> coz I can no longer install webbrowser-app

 15:35 <andyrock> did some reviews also

 15:35 <andyrock> eow

 15:35 <seb128> thanks andyrock

 15:36 <seb128> andyrock, is that using the overlay ppa? I think they had an issue with oxide and a security update overriding it but a silo fixing those

 15:36 <seb128> #topic attente

 15:36 <seb128> attente, hey

 15:36 <attente> hi seb128

 15:36 <attente> bug fixes to the mir backend upstream for gtk-4

 15:37 <attente> also tried debugging a libtool/rpath problem but not much luck there

 15:37 <attente> filed an RT to fix an issue with the integration tests in the snapcraft jhbuild plugin

 15:37 <attente> title bars on separate child windows discussion with upstream

 15:37 <attente> content-hub-glib branch landed in z, so could use someone to review wip/attente/mir-content-hub on git.gnome.org. considering just merging it though...

 15:37 <andyrock> seb128: do you know which silo?

 15:38 <seb128> andyrock, no, but maybe it landed since?

 15:38 <seb128> attente, did you try desrt / robert_ancell / Laney for reviewing the gtk-mir change?

 15:39 <seb128> one of them might be able to find some review cycles for you?

 15:39 <attente> i haven't asked anyone yet :)

 15:39 <seb128> k, well I sort of just did for you :p

 15:39 <seb128> thanks attente!

 15:39 <attente> desrt: do you want to try? ^

 15:39 <seb128> #topic desrt

 15:39 <seb128> desrt, hey

 15:39 <desrt> hey.  not a lot to say.  work continues on the proxy.  got some cleanups done vs. last week

 15:39 <desrt> that's all

 15:40 <andyrock> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/irRFZIiQ/

 15:40 <andyrock> seb128: ^^^

 15:40 <seb128> andyrock, let's move that to #ubuntu-unity

 15:40 <seb128> thanks desrt

 15:40 <seb128> #topic dgadomski

 15:40 <dgadomski> `hey

 15:40 <seb128> dgadomski, hey

 15:40 <dgadomski> * focusing on #1550983. Looks like the problem is in gtk itself or it's packaging. I would appreciate an opinion on this (last comment in the bug).

 15:40 <dgadomski> bug #155098 that is :)

 15:40 <ubot5> bug 155098 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "add grab-merge.sh" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155098

 15:41 <dgadomski> sorry, bug #1550983

 15:41 <ubot5> bug 1550983 in virt-manager (Ubuntu) "Fails to start with "Couldn't open libGL.so.1" (missing dependency?)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1550983

 15:41 <dgadomski> that's the one

 15:41 <dgadomski> eof

 15:41 <seb128> dgadomski, let's have a look after the meeting

 15:41 <seb128> dgadomski, thanks

 15:41 <dgadomski> thanks

 15:41 <seb128> #topic FJKong

 15:41 <FJKong> hi

 15:41 <FJKong> bug fixed:

 15:41 <FJKong> #1575350 #847087 Gnome Software catalog entry missing for GNU Radio

 15:41 <FJKong> #1634226 Gnome Software catalog entry missing for D-rats

 15:42 <FJKong> still in progress

 15:42 <FJKong> #1498972 Change icon to 256x256 version to support HiDPI

 15:42 <FJKong> #1639863 Firefox and Thunderbird don't appear in the (new) appstream metadata

 15:42 <FJKong> eof

 15:42 <seb128> thanks FJKong

 15:42 <seb128> #topic flexiondotorg

 15:42 <seb128> flexiondotorg, hey

 15:42 <flexiondotorg> Time appropriate greetings!

 15:42 <flexiondotorg> · Researched this weeks candidates for the Snap Upstream Blitz and update Trello

 15:42 <flexiondotorg> · Completed new joiner induction at BlueFin on Thursday.

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> · Worked on fixes for `source-type: deb` in Snapcraft. Discovered while working with an ISV.

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> · Video conference with System 76 to understand their issues with HiDPI on 16.04. They have started tagging bugs here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=hidpi

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> · Working on some follow up actions as a result of the call with System 76, including how the can complete early testing and QA for the 16.04.2 HWE kernel on their range of computers.

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> · Thanks to andyrock and trevinho for the Unity 7 scale factor merge in Zesty. System 76 are testing.

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> · Snap advocacy video conference with Plone and out reach to many other ISVs and upstreams. Daily standup video conferences now.

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> 🎬

 15:44 <seb128> flexiondotorg, thanks!

 15:44 <seb128> #topic happyaron

 15:44 <seb128> happyaron, hey

 15:45 <seb128> oh, he sent me notes

 15:45 <seb128> 1. ibus-table/1.9.1-4

 15:45 <seb128> 2. libpinyin/1.3.0-3

 15:45 <seb128> 3. iptraf-ng RC bug fix

 15:45 <seb128> 4. opencc SRU to yakkety

 15:45 <seb128> 5. landed n-m in zesty

 15:45 <seb128> 6. prepared n-m SRU for xenial

 15:45 <seb128> thanks happyaron ;-)

 15:45 <seb128> #topic hikiko

 15:45 <seb128> hikiko, hey!

 15:45 <hikiko> hi

 15:45 <hikiko> worked on chromium + lowgfx, but mostly on chromium:

 15:45 <hikiko> * learned how to use ninja, gn and other google stuff,

 15:45 <hikiko> * started the code in the mir backend,

 15:45 <hikiko> * I am still studying ozone, the mir client API and the wayland backend: my first "goal" is to be able to draw on a mir surface.

 15:46 <qengho> So sorry.

 15:46 <hikiko> oh also spent a several amount of time trying to accelerate the build

 15:46 <qengho> Also sorry.

 15:46 <hikiko> lol qengho

 15:46 <hikiko> eof :)

 15:46 <seb128> thanks hikiko

 15:46 <seb128> #topic Laney

 15:46 <seb128> Laney, hey

 15:46 <Laney> yo

 15:46 <Laney> • lame week

 15:46 <Laney> • mostly worked on a big transition which keeps getting set back, now I'm casting around in #ubuntu-release for help, hard to tell if it's close or not

 15:46 <Laney> • some random updates: gstreamer 1.10.2, appstream-glib

 15:47 <Laney> • fixed a g-s 3.22 bug breaking installation of packages

 15:47 <Laney> 🙇

 15:47 <tjaalton> seb128: i'm out until thursday

 15:48 <seb128> tjaalton, k, enjoy the time off!

 15:48 <seb128> Laney, sorry I was in middle of other things yesterday and didn't really understand your request and then forgot to get back to you and earlier infinity was active so I though he would do it, remind me what you need after the meeting and I can do it

 15:48 <seb128> Laney, thanks

 15:49 <seb128> #topic qengho

 15:49 <seb128> qengho, hey

 15:49 <qengho> Hi!

 15:49 <qengho> * Building and testing new upstream Cr release. Cr 55.

 15:49 <qengho> * printf-debugging a crasher.

 15:49 <qengho> * Refreshed tor snap. Upstream release. Snaps are so nice.

 15:49 <qengho> EOF

 15:49 <Laney> seb128: no worry, I listed the request earlier in #ubuntu-release

 15:49 <seb128> thanks qengho

 15:49 <Laney> doesn't have to be you all the time

 15:50 <seb128> #topic seb128

 15:50 <Laney> thanks for your previous help ;-)

 15:50 <seb128> yw!

 15:50 <seb128> • looked at some network-manager issues, including zesty and xenial regressions, talked to people who know about those changes to try to get things moving

 15:50 <seb128> • triaged a bit nautilus bugs and talked to upstream about some of the issues

 15:50 <seb128> • reviewed recent launchpad bugs & e.u.c reports

 15:50 <seb128> • some archive admin work

 15:50 <seb128> • starting a sponsoring shift

 15:50 <seb128> • snappy work

 15:50 <seb128> ∘ tried to build yakkety snaps on launchpad to backport on xenial but hit build issues, wasted some time trying to debug/workaround those, turned out to be a known launchpad bug and not easy to workaround

 15:50 <seb128> ∘ discussed several issues & howtodothings with Didier

 15:50 <seb128> ∘ looked at bit more at what kde did with their platform sharing

 15:50 <seb128> </weekly>

 15:50 <seb128> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:50 <seb128> Sweet5hark, hey

 15:50 <Sweet5hark> - 5.3 beta1 snap build starts ...

 15:50 <Sweet5hark> - ... but fails on weird linking issue: missing some harfbuzz/icu symbols, need to investigate

 15:50 <Sweet5hark> - writer refactoring and cleanup (got 7 patches in, 3 more pending)

 15:50 <Sweet5hark> - reviewed and merged some patches by others

 15:50 <Sweet5hark> - TDF: 2017 budgeting

 15:50 <Sweet5hark> - some team management (travel, events)

 15:50 <Sweet5hark> - some FOSDEM prep

 15:50 <Sweet5hark> EOF

 15:51 <seb128> thanks Sweet5hark

 15:51 <seb128> #topic TheMuso

 15:51 <seb128> * Had someone comment on bug 1574324 about the latest puse SRU fix for that bug breaking bluetooth for them... *sigh* there had to be some hardware that would be worse with that change wouldn't there. :S Need to look at the log they provided, and go from there. Not going to mark as regression yet, because this fixes things more than it does break things, based on user feedback.

 15:51 <seb128> * Discussions about input events and accessibility begun, but decided to talk to upstrea accessibility devs first, and based on that conversation, it is something that needs to be written up in a spec, and will likely require accessibility dev involvement in upstrea mprojects to implement it. I've got some questions to run by them, but other than that I will have to look at writing the spec myself, since we are needing it sooner rather than l

 15:51 <ubot5> bug 1574324 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio crashes when connecting to bluetooth headphones (due to ubuntu changes?)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1574324

 15:51 <seb128> ater.

 15:51 <seb128> * Migration to the use of espeak-ng in main continues, most of the work being done in Debian, at which point we can sync/merge when everything is ready, and it will be a matter of filing a MIR once everything is built and available in universe... Part of the process has been to separate out as much as possible into separate packages, which brings multiple benefits anyway.

 15:51 <seb128> * Further testing for bug 1641954, and can reproduce, so will proceed with the SRU in the coming week. THis is only a problem in Xenial, since the fix is in newer versions of pulseaudio.

 15:51 <ubot5> bug 1641954 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Output switches from HDMI speakers to internal speakers on DPMS off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1641954

 15:51 <seb128> #topic tkamppeter

 15:52 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Investigation of crashes of cups-browsed, probably will need locks due to parallel tasks/threads.

 15:52 <tkamppeter> - CUPS: Investigated a problem of shutdown with systemd.

 15:52 <tkamppeter> - OpenPrinting: Investigated a bug in adding new PPDs and printer entries.

 15:52 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.

 15:52 <seb128> tkamppeter, hey, you sent me a summary by email but seems you are online? should I copy it or...

 15:52 <seb128> seems you are around

 15:52 <seb128> tkamppeter, thanks

 15:52 <tkamppeter> No, it is the same. Thanks.

 15:52 <seb128> yw!

 15:52 <seb128> #topic Trevinho

 15:52 <seb128> Trevinho, hello

 15:52 <Trevinho> · More work in unity8 indicators pointer/touch interactions

 15:52 <Trevinho> · Fixed a failure in ubuntu settings components tests due to JS date issues

 15:52 <Trevinho> · Fixed unity7 to compile with gtest-1.8

 15:52 <Trevinho> · Landed new unity7 with various fixes

 15:52 <Trevinho> · Fixed libappindicator to use proper realpath for icons and themes in $SNAP

 15:52 <Trevinho> · Various tunings, new tests and cleanups to my snapcraft PRs (now all merged)

 15:52 <Trevinho> · Few tunings to the Remmina snap

 15:53 <Trevinho> · Written a snapcraft ML post to explain how to use app-indicators from $SNAP

 15:53 <Trevinho> EOF

 15:53 <seb128> Trevinho, thanks!

 15:53 <seb128> #topic robert_ancell

 15:53 <seb128> - snapd-glib 1.4 released and SRU'd

 15:53 <seb128> - Relocation improvements in LightDM

 15:53 <seb128> - (Away two days)

 15:53 <seb128> #topic aob

 15:53 <seb128> other topics anyone?

 15:53 <seb128> did I forget anybody?

 15:55 <seb128> k, seems everybody is quiet ;-)

 15:55 <seb128> should do for this week then

 15:55 <seb128> let's call it a wrap, thanks everyone

 15:55 <attente> thanks seb128

 15:55 <Laney> great meeting

 15:55 <attente> 5/5

 15:55 * Laney gets a tattoo of 2016-12-06

 15:56 <seb128> #endmeeting



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