== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2016-11-29, 29 Nov at 15:30 — 15:51 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-11-29-15.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:33.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:36.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:40.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:41.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:42.


=== flexiondotorg ===
The discussion about "flexiondotorg" started at 15:43.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:44.


=== hikiko ===
The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:45.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:45.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:46.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:46.


=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:47.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:48.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:48.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:48.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:49.


=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 15:50.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (83)
 * flexiondotorg (16)
 * Trevinho (10)
 * andyrock (10)
 * FJKong (10)
 * Laney (9)
 * desrt (7)
 * seb128 (7)
 * dgadomski (6)
 * attente (6)
 * Sweet5hark (5)
 * qengho (5)
 * ubot5` (4)
 * meetingology (3)
 * hikiko (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2016-11-29

 15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 29 15:30:40 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:30 <meetingology> 

 15:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:30 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong, flexiondotorg, happyaron (out), hikiko (out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 15:30 <willcooke> Hi everyone!

 15:30 <andyrock> Hey

 15:31 <flexiondotorg> Hiya!

 15:31 <qengho> Hi hi!

 15:31 <FJKong> hi

 15:31 <Trevinho> hello

 15:31 <hikiko> hi:) +bye!

 15:32 <willcooke> have a good evening hikiko

 15:33 <willcooke> Right, since andyrock is here, let's get started

 15:33 <willcooke> #topic andyrock

 15:33 <andyrock> 1. Windows list in the unity8 quicklists

 15:33 <andyrock> 2. Updated some unity7 and unity8 old branches

 15:34 <andyrock> 3. Reviews (Marco's branches and the high dpi one)

 15:34 <andyrock> 4.taxes XD

 15:34 <andyrock> Eow

 15:34 <willcooke> :) thanks andyrock, and thanks for looking at the hidpi branch

 15:34 <flexiondotorg> andyrock, What was the outcome of the HiDPI review?

 15:34 <andyrock> I approved it

 15:35 <flexiondotorg> Perfect!

 15:35 <andyrock> It works fine

 15:35 <willcooke> flexiondotorg, it will find it's way in to backports via Trevinho at some point soonish

 15:35 <desrt> ((Sorry... my network connection chose this exact moment to start acting up.  Come back after?))

 15:35 <willcooke> desrt, ack np

 15:35 <andyrock> And the logic is mostly copied from gnome settings

 15:35 <andyrock> So should be fine

 15:35 <flexiondotorg> Thanks, andyrock. You'll see why I'm interested in a bit...

 15:36 <willcooke> :))

 15:36 <willcooke> #topic attente

 15:36 <attente> hey

 15:36 <attente> currently fixing the mir backend upstream, it's kind of in a broken state due to api changes for gtk 4

 15:36 <attente> attempted fixing the jhbuild snapcraft plugin on github-ci, but not sure how to proceed because the integration test requires network access...

 15:36 <attente> also blocked on build breakage in content-hub due to the gtest regressions

 15:37 <Laney> doesn't continuous build with mir enabled?

 15:37 <desrt> (working again)

 15:37 <attente> it doesn't seem so

 15:38 <attente> the build is working now, but trying to run a gtk app with the mir backend just crashes outright

 15:39 <willcooke> attente/laney ok follow up after the meeting?

 15:39 <Laney> just a question, nothing further

 15:39 <willcooke> oki, thanks

 15:39 <willcooke> thanks attente

 15:40 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:40 <desrt> still working on dconf proxy

 15:40 <desrt> got to the point where the proxy detects confined apps, looks up their "allowed" paths, compares this with admin lockdown, and computes a list of keys that they can see, and pushes it into the sandbox via the shared xdg path

 15:40 <desrt> change notification is next, i guess

 15:41 <desrt> but i need to clean things up a bit more

 15:41 <desrt> that's all

 15:41 <willcooke> thanks desrt

 15:41 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski

 15:41 <dgadomski> hey

 15:41 <dgadomski> * back to working on bug #1550983 and bug #1598183

 15:41 <ubot5`> bug 1550983 in virt-manager (Ubuntu) "Fails to start with "Couldn't open libGL.so.1" (missing dependency?)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1550983

 15:41 <ubot5`> bug 1598183 in gvfs "Operation not permitted while writing to symlinked fuse locations" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1598183

 15:41 <dgadomski> * tried to work on bug #1589401, but in my team stopped experiencing it. Let's see how long that lasts

 15:41 <ubot5`> bug 1589401 in NetworkManager "cannot view wifi networks after re-enabling wifi" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1589401

 15:41 <dgadomski> eof

 15:41 <willcooke> good stuff, thanks dgadomski.

 15:42 <dgadomski> thanks

 15:42 <willcooke> Speak to happyaron about #1589401 if needed

 15:42 <dgadomski> ok, cool

 15:42 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:42 <FJKong> hi

 15:42 <FJKong> bug fixing:

 15:42 <FJKong> #898847 grig package has no .desktop file

 15:42 <FJKong> #1587984 Gnome Software catalog entry missing for Grig

 15:42 <FJKong> #1591112 Gnome Software catalog entry missing for Qtel

 15:42 <FJKong> #1634226 Gnome Software catalog entry missing for D-rats

 15:42 <FJKong> simple ones

 15:42 <FJKong> firefox bug not finished yet

 15:42 <FJKong> eof

 15:43 <willcooke> cool, thanks FJKong

 15:43 <willcooke> #topic flexiondotorg

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> Hi

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> · Contributed to the UbuCon Europe Trip Report.

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> · Researched this weeks candidates for the Snap Upstream Blitz and updated Trello.

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> · Read the Ubuntu Core 16 Specification for Classic Confinement.

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> · Direct contact with HexChat, Mumble, Flowblade, ocenaudio, Gmvault and ZNC.

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> · Provided assistance for the uGet, ZNC, Mumble, ZNC and HexChat teams on their road to snaps.

 15:43 <flexiondotorg> · HexChat upstream now publishing in the Snap store stable channel.

 15:44 <flexiondotorg> · Joined the Patch Pilots.

 15:44 <flexiondotorg> · Reviewed "HiDPI Improvements" document from Ryan, David and Cassidy at System 76. Have a call with them tomorrow afternoon to discuss their plans and explain how they can contribute improvements.

 15:44 <flexiondotorg> · Filed bug and assisted with improving the system-observe interface.

 15:44 <flexiondotorg> · Testing the new Terminal.

 15:44 <flexiondotorg> 🎬

 15:44 <willcooke> nothing else?

 15:44 <willcooke> ;)

 15:44 <willcooke> thanks flexiondotorg

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic happyaron

 15:44 <willcooke> 1. back from holidays, yay for getting some new lifelong immunity.

 15:44 <willcooke> 2. network-manager 1.4.2 lands in zesty

 15:44 <willcooke> 3. fcitx SRU for xenial

 15:44 <willcooke> 4. opencc SRU for yakkety

 15:45 <willcooke> #topic hikiko

 15:45 <willcooke> * Unity/Compiz: added Low gfx option in ucc, and a u7 specific gsetting,

 15:45 <willcooke> added the necessary checks to see if the new or old low gfx is used, I

 15:45 <willcooke> still need to add some code to load the profile dynamically (in progress)

 15:45 <willcooke> * Chromium: set up the environment following the development guidelines,

 15:45 <willcooke> added a mir platform in ozone, configured ninja to build that platform

 15:45 <willcooke> along with the others (still studying ninja though I have to accelerate

 15:45 <willcooke> the build somehow and fix some issues I had). Also, looked at the other

 15:45 <willcooke> platforms code to understand how the ozone works and how to add the mir

 15:45 <willcooke> code and dependencies.

 15:45 <willcooke> #topic Laney

 15:45 <Laney> • Short week, was off Friday

 15:45 <Laney> • Finish off migrating to the new appstream-generator, now deployed, seems to be doing ok

 15:45 <Laney> • Push forward a big combined transition in z-proposed - lots of rebuilds, delayed by the big test queue backlog

 15:45 <Laney> • z-proposed autopkgtest fixes and investigation for various issues

 15:46 <Laney> • Rebase gst-good SRU after trumped by security update (second one after -bad last week)

 15:46 <Laney> • fwd new version of overlayfs-trash patch to upstream bug, upload to unstable/experimental/zesty/yakkety/xenial

 15:46 <Laney> ✰

 15:46 <willcooke> thanks a lot Laney

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:46 <qengho> * two days holiday. so nice.

 15:46 <qengho> * in-progress: chromium 54 builds on all supported arch, but still sometimes SEGVs in blink code. Consulting upstream.

 15:46 <qengho> * to-do: browser test snap to use xdg-open bridge to outside snap.

 15:46 <qengho> EOF

 15:46 <willcooke> thanks qengho

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic seb128

 15:47 <seb128> • had friday off-work

 15:47 <seb128> • some archive admin work (reviews, deleted some binaries for transitions)

 15:47 <seb128> • otherwise most of the week was snappy focussed

 15:47 <seb128> ∘ catching up with ongoing/work discussions

 15:47 <seb128> ∘ helped with some debugging

 15:47 <seb128> ∘ started testing the content sharing interface and iterating on the gtk platform snap example, hit some issues trying to use the yakkety gtk stack on xenial so decided to change and start sharing xenial gtk on xenial and deal with the cross-version issues later

 15:47 <seb128> </week>

 15:47 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 15:47 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:47 <Sweet5hark> - pushed gbuild-to-ide/gbuildtojson fixes: building LibreOffice from kdevelop, Eclipse, Vim/YouCompleteMe, XCode, qtcreator, visual studio with autogenerated project solutions should work again and be more reliable and fastter (and have tests)

 15:47 <Sweet5hark> - some upstream refactoring of (killing some SwModify)

 15:47 <Sweet5hark> - various changes to get 5.3 beta to build as a snap: configure flags, updated patch queue (ongoing)

 15:47 <Sweet5hark> - various admin bits: filed travel stuff etc.

 15:47 <Sweet5hark> EOF

 15:48 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark

 15:48 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso

 15:48 <willcooke> * Tried reproducing bug 1641954 without any luck, the reporter is working through with me to see if I've missed anything during my testing.

 15:48 <willcooke> * More research on implementing input event processing for assistive technologies. I think the best approach is to start a discussion involving all steakholders, i.e shell/compositor developers for GNOME and KDE as well as the unity 8 folks, explain what we have now, and why we need to implement something, and brainstorm a solution thats cross desktop environment. I'm looking to get that discussion going in the next day or so.

 15:48 <willcooke> * Started working on a plan to migrate various pieces of software that use espeak over to using the espeak-ng fork, which is actively maintained. Well, all software that is in main at least, which is not much. Debian has already made the transition, so it is a matter of filing a MIR for espeak-ng and adjusting packages appropriately.

 15:48 <ubot5`> bug 1641954 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Output switches from HDMI speakers to internal speakers on DPMS off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1641954

 15:48 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 15:48 <willcooke> - cups-filters: Created "driverless" utility which makes CUPS auto-detect printers designed for driverless use (IPP Everywhere, AirPrint), so that one can set them up with legacy printer setup tools and the correct PPDs get auto-generated.

 15:48 <willcooke> - cups-filters: Use CUPS' new Apple Raster support for accepting Apple Raster as input format (improve CUPS' emulation of an AirPrint printer so that Iphones can print on Ubuntu CUPS server). Before there was a half-baked filter based on reverse-engineering.

 15:48 <willcooke> - cups-filters: Released 1.12.0 with most of the new driverless printing stuff.

 15:48 <willcooke> - cups-filters: Created a test setup and sent appropriate instructions to Aveek Basu from Lexmark. Now he is testing Lexmark's printers.

 15:48 <willcooke> - Common Print Dialog: More chat with Aveek Basu about how GSoC students can help us. He wants to find the students for us.

 15:48 <willcooke> - IPP Everywhere: SRU to make Yakkety correctly support IPP Everywhere printers is in -updates now.

 15:48 <willcooke> - Bugs.

 15:48 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Fixed snapcraft parser to support wiki parts with remote parts

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Added support to origin-{branch,commit,tag} in snapcraft remote parts

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Fixed snapcraft infinite copy-loop when snapcraft dir is a sub-sub src folder

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Proposed some upstream patches to Telegram to properly support appindicator

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Reviews for unity-settings-components, and some refactor of the Ethernet item

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Fixed an unity7 crash on lockscreen with a touch display

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Fixed compilation of unity7 with gtest 1.8

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Fixed an appmenu-qt5 crash when it's used outside X11.

 15:49 <Trevinho> ... EOF

 15:49 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho

 15:49 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 15:49 <willcooke> ings-components, and some refactor of the Ethernet item

 15:49 <willcooke> <Trevinho> � Fixed an unity7 crash on lockscreen with a touch display

 15:49 <willcooke> <Trevinho> � Fixed compilation of unity7 with gtest 1.8

 15:49 <willcooke> <Trevinho> � Fixed an appmenu-qt5 crash when it's used outside X11.

 15:49 <willcooke> <Trevinho> ... EOF

 15:49 <willcooke> err

 15:49 <willcooke> wat

 15:50 <willcooke> try again...

 15:50 <willcooke> - GNOME Software SRUs

 15:50 <willcooke> - LightDM 1.21.1 released

 15:50 <willcooke> - Simple Scan 2.23.2 released

 15:50 <willcooke> - Working on LightDM / Unity 8 system snap

 15:50 <willcooke> thats better

 15:50 <willcooke> #topic AOB

 15:50 <willcooke> Anyone got any topics they want to raise?

 15:50 <willcooke> Going in 10....

 15:51 <willcooke> I'll be in the office Thursday this week if anyone wants anything sorting

 15:51 <willcooke> Should be around for 1:1s in the afternoon, but not in the morning.  Will update those affected

 15:51 <willcooke> If there's nothing else, let's wrap

 15:51 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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