== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop Meeting, 22 Nov at 15:30 — 15:50 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-11-22-15.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== hikiko ===
The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:31.


=== didrocks ===
The discussion about "didrocks" started at 15:32.


=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:33.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:35.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:37.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:38.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:39.


=== flexiondotorg ===
The discussion about "flexiondotorg" started at 15:39.


=== laney ===
The discussion about "laney" started at 15:41.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:43.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:44.


=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:44.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:45.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:46.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:46.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:48.


=== aob ===
The discussion about "aob" started at 15:49.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * seb128 (100)
 * flexiondotorg (18)
 * attente (12)
 * Trevinho (9)
 * Laney (9)
 * Sweet5hark (8)
 * didrocks (7)
 * hikiko (6)
 * qengho (5)
 * tkamppeter (5)
 * desrt (5)
 * dgadomski (3)
 * ubot5` (3)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 15:30 <seb128> #startmeeting

 15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 22 15:30:37 2016 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:30 <meetingology> 

 15:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:30 <seb128> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt (out),  dgadomski, fjkong (out), flexiondotorg, happyaron (out), hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 15:30 <flexiondotorg> o/

 15:30 <Sweet5hark> aye

 15:30 <didrocks> o/

 15:31 <attente> didrocks: joining the meeting?

 15:31 <hikiko> oh seb128 I forgot and I was about to leave, could I go first if the others dont mind?

 15:31 <seb128> didrocks! ;-)

 15:31 <didrocks> attente: tried to see if people noticed :)

 15:31 <desrt> Hi from the apron

 15:31 <attente> lol

 15:31 <seb128> k, let's get started then

 15:31 <hikiko> I forgot to email the bullets I mean

 15:31 <seb128> #topic hikiko

 15:31 <seb128> hikiko, your turn!

 15:31 <hikiko> thank you :)

 15:32 <seb128> yw ;-)

 15:32 <seb128> you can go and paste your update...

 15:32 <hikiko> low gfx stuff in ucc and tools and today started working on chromium-mir stuff too

 15:32 <hikiko> eof

 15:32 <hikiko> thank you :) +sorry

 15:32 <seb128> thanks hikiko

 15:32 <seb128> let's continue with our special guest

 15:32 <seb128> #topic didrocks

 15:33 <seb128> didrocks, hey :-p

 15:33 <didrocks> hey! :)

 15:33 <didrocks> * created face detection snap on armhf

 15:33 <didrocks> * snaps are awesome, snap the world, snap the desktop !

 15:33 <didrocks> EOF

 15:33 <seb128> wooot

 15:33 <flexiondotorg> :-)

 15:33 <seb128> thanks didrocks ;-)

 15:33 <seb128> #topic andyrock

 15:33 <seb128> let's resume normal order!

 15:33 <seb128> andyrock, hey

 15:35 <seb128> oh, he's off until thursday

 15:35 <seb128> sorry I forgot about that

 15:35 <seb128> #topic attente

 15:35 <seb128> attente, your turn then!

 15:35 <attente> :o

 15:35 <attente> i was off friday

 15:35 <attente> snapcraft jhbuild plugin ready now, submitted a PR

 15:36 <attente> content-hub-glib and gtk copy-paste debugging under xenial, need someone to review the gtk part once the content-hub side lands

 15:36 <attente> (which should be very soon)

 15:36 <attente> (eof)

 15:36 * desrt has new work for attente :)

 15:36 <seb128> nice work on the jhbuild plugin!

 15:36 <flexiondotorg> Indeed!

 15:36 <seb128> (on the copy-paste as well)

 15:36 <seb128> thanks attente

 15:36 <attente> just hoping it merges upstream...

 15:37 <seb128> we can convince them I'm sure ;-)

 15:37 <seb128> #topic desrt

 15:37 <seb128> desrt, still around, want to paste your update or should I do it?

 15:38 <desrt> Please paste

 15:38 <desrt> I'm on my phone, in the plane

 15:38 <seb128> k

 15:38 <seb128> - work continues on dconf proxy

 15:38 <seb128> - finally have it under version control as wip/proxy branch on upstream

 15:38 <seb128> dconf

 15:38 <seb128> - the security stuff is now fully sorted (+ thanks to snap team for

 15:38 <seb128> adding xdg subdir support to snappy)

 15:38 <seb128> - put a fair amount of effort into starting to "robustify" the code

 15:38 <seb128> (since this is a security component)

 15:38 <seb128> - security-related aspects of support for flatpak-based clients is in

 15:38 <seb128> place (again, with caveat about signal broadcasts not being filtered by

 15:38 <seb128> flatpak)

 15:38 <seb128> - now we really need to get apparmor support working (hopefully attente

 15:38 <seb128> can chase up the security guys again for this)

 15:38 <seb128> 

 15:38 <seb128> thanks desrt ;-)

 15:38 <seb128> #topic dgadomski

 15:38 <seb128> dgadomski, hey

 15:38 <dgadomski> hey

 15:38 <desrt> Thanks Seb :)

 15:38 <dgadomski> no updates this week, I'm recovering from the sprint last week ;)

 15:38 <dgadomski> eof

 15:39 <seb128> thanks dgadomski

 15:39 <seb128> #topic FJKong

 15:39 <seb128> fixed and upload package to debian

 15:39 <seb128> #1575353 Gnome Software catalog entry missing for CQRLOG

 15:39 <seb128> #1593244 Gnome Software catalog entry missing for Xnec2c

 15:39 <seb128> #1575356 Gnome Software catalog entry missing for Fldigi

 15:39 <seb128> firefox:

 15:39 <seb128> #1498972 #1639863 is on progressing

 15:39 <seb128> #topic flexiondotorg

 15:39 <seb128> flexiondotorg, hey!

 15:39 <flexiondotorg> Hi

 15:39 <flexiondotorg> · Background reading about Bileto.

 15:39 <flexiondotorg> · Attended UOS sessions Tuesday/Wednesday afternoon/evening.

 15:39 <flexiondotorg> · Researched this weeks candidates for the Snap Upstream Blitz and updated their Trello board.

 15:39 <flexiondotorg> · Unity 8 desktop snap testing.

 15:39 <flexiondotorg> · Filed a bug (previously thought fixed) while building Python snaps on Launchpad (LP: #1642281)

 15:39 <flexiondotorg> · Completed the ISV Upstream on-boarding.

 15:39 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1642281 in Snapcraft "Unable to build python based snap on Launchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1642281

 15:39 <flexiondotorg> · Updated some example GTK3+ snaps to current standards.

 15:40 <flexiondotorg> · Friday/Saturday/Sunday UbuCon Europe - which was excellent!

 15:40 <flexiondotorg> · Impromptu Raspberry Pi 3 server hosting for _didrocks. Thank goodness for fibre!

 15:40 <flexiondotorg> · Have started contacting upstreams and ISVs (everyday) to advocate snapping of their projects/products.

 15:40 <flexiondotorg> · Positive contact with uGet project to use snaps and adopt the GTK3 platform snap when it is available.

 15:40 <flexiondotorg> 🎬

 15:40 <seb128> thanks flexiondotorg

 15:41 <seb128> #topic laney

 15:41 <seb128> Laney, hey

 15:41 <Laney> hej

 15:41 <Laney> • gstreamer 1.10 & rebase sru that got trumped by a security update (please verify if you're on x, it's been sitting for a while)

 15:41 <Laney> • deployed new asgen to production, some final fixes, got commit access, just need to switch dns now to make it used

 15:41 <Laney> • some -proposed gardening

 15:41 <Laney> • new glib @ debian/zesty & testfixes for that

 15:41 <Laney> • worked on a glib trash bug fix, asked reported to test proposed patch

 15:41 <Laney> • some proposed-migration babysitting

 15:41 <Laney> 🙎

 15:42 <didrocks> thanks flexiondotorg for the rpi3, that really helped! :)

 15:42 <flexiondotorg> yw

 15:42 <seb128> thanks Laney

 15:43 <seb128> Laney, speaking of glib we got some launchpad request to update yakkety to 50.1, unsure if that's on your list (it fixes some trash issue)

 15:43 <seb128> anyway not a meeting topic, let's keep moving

 15:43 <seb128> #topic qengho

 15:43 <seb128> qengho, hey

 15:43 <qengho> * done; updated LTS chromium to fix TLS expiration. skipped yakkety for 54...

 15:43 <qengho> * in-progress: Cr 54. 32-bit memory exhaustion at link. run-time crash in blink, perhaps memory allocator again?

 15:43 <qengho> * in-progress: Helping Tor project adopt snaps for reproducible builder and browser.

 15:43 <qengho> Away for national holiday on Thursday, maybe also Friday.

 15:44 <qengho> EOF

 15:44 <Laney> seb128: yes I know

 15:44 <seb128> thanks qengho

 15:44 <seb128> Laney, good :-)

 15:44 <seb128> #topic seb128

 15:44 <seb128> • UOS - watched/participated in some sessions

 15:44 <seb128> • learnt a bit more about the langpack-o-matic infrastructure to be able to co-maintain it

 15:44 <seb128> • some NEW reviews

 15:44 <seb128> • had a look at the suggested dbus snapd interface (needed to unblock some GNOME components)

 15:44 <seb128> • tried to help did_rocks debugging some snap/alsa interactions

 15:44 <seb128> • worked a bit with att_ente on the roadmap for gtk-mir

 15:44 <seb128> • read a bit more about snap content sharing to prepare the gtk platform snap work

 15:44 <seb128> </week>

 15:44 <seb128> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:44 <seb128> Sweet5hark, hey

 15:45 <Sweet5hark> - TDF budgeting, team priorities

 15:45 <Sweet5hark> - collecting lose ends: finish/upgrade gbuild-to-ide

 15:45 <Sweet5hark> - some networking/lobbying bits, filing various expenses

 15:45 <Sweet5hark> - finished trusty backport, looking into precise

 15:45 <Sweet5hark> - prep for 5.3 beta1

 15:45 <Sweet5hark> - next week: will need to look in various gtk3/snap stuff

 15:45 <Sweet5hark> EOF

 15:45 <seb128> thanks Sweet5hark

 15:45 <seb128> #topic TheMuso

 15:45 <seb128> * Started looking at the patches provided in bug 1641954 for Xenial, to provide a better experience around the use of HDMI audio to a monitor/TV. Haven't been able to reproduce yet, work continues.

 15:45 <seb128> * Started looking into how input event processing for assistive technologies could be implemented in Mir and Wayland compositors/shells. Since we need this for Unity 8, it is my hope that I can start a discussion with developers of Mutter/GNOME Shell, and KDE, as well as Unity 8 devs to work out a cross-desktop solution. It will probably be a DBus API, but more may be needed, possibly along the lines of validating that the

 15:45 <seb128> process registering for input events is who they say they are, for security reasons.

 15:45 <seb128> * Continued looking into bluetooth profile related issues now that the fix for bug 1574324 is in yakkety and xenial.

 15:45 <ubot5`> bug 1641954 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Output switches from HDMI speakers to internal speakers on DPMS off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1641954

 15:45 <ubot5`> bug 1574324 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio crashes when connecting to bluetooth headphones (due to ubuntu changes?)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1574324

 15:46 <seb128> #topic tkamppeter

 15:46 <seb128> tkamppeter, hey

 15:46 <tkamppeter> - We have support for AirPrint now! Around 2600 models, many did not work with Linux before. Works only if printer is network-connected (WiFi, Ethernet).

 15:46 <tkamppeter> - cups: Got upstream answers to PPD-generator related bug reports and these got fixed for 2.2.2. In addition, 2.2.2 will have Apple Raster support (is in upstream GIT now), so AirPrint printers (around 2600 models, many did not work with Linux before) should work without driver and auto-generated PPDs, too. Tested on three HP printers and it actually works.

 15:46 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Synced PPD generator in cups-browsed with the one in CUPS, added auto-creation of print queues for AirPrint printers.

 15:46 <tkamppeter> - Chat with Aveek Basu from Lexmark, he want to help on print dialog development, find GSoC students, and test IPP Everywhere and AirPrint printers from Lexmark.

 15:46 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.

 15:46 <seb128> nice work tkamppeter, thanks!

 15:46 <seb128> #topic Trevinho

 15:47 <seb128> Trevinho, your turn :-)

 15:47 <Trevinho> · Fixed sni-qt, appmenu-qt5, libappindicator to support $SNAP environment

 15:47 <Trevinho> · Created indicator-<toolkit> snap remote parts for snap inclusions (and desktop-launchers)

 15:47 <Trevinho> · Created examples for indicators in snap environment: https://github.com/3v1n0/indicators-examples-snaps

 15:47 <Trevinho> · Reviewed the Window Decorations Document for u8, Gtk+ is going to be problematic again (especially in a snappy world), so I think we'd need to find a solution

 15:47 <Trevinho> · Landed new unity8 indicators (and new calendar) - after fixing various aspects

 15:47 <Trevinho> · Some design reviews of indicators

 15:47 <Trevinho> · Fixed a small indicator-datetime bug causing wrong events showing

 15:48 <Trevinho> seb128: sorry for the delay

 15:48 <seb128> no worry

 15:48 <Trevinho> /eof

 15:48 <seb128> good/busy week again, well done Marco!

 15:48 <seb128> #topic robert_ancell

 15:48 <seb128> - (short week due to leave)

 15:48 <seb128> - Working on lightdm / unity8-system snap

 15:48 <seb128> - LightDM and snapd-glib fixes / improvements

 15:49 <seb128> #topic aob

 15:49 <seb128> does anyone has some other topic to discuss?

 15:49 <attente> should we talk about the gtk platform snap?

 15:49 <attente> or after the meeting maybe?

 15:50 <seb128> we can

 15:50 <seb128> after meeting is fine

 15:50 <seb128> no need to keep everybody, those interested can stay around

 15:50 <seb128> k, let's wrap and discuss that?

 15:50 <seb128> thanks everyone!

 15:50 <attente> sure

 15:50 <flexiondotorg> Yep.

 15:50 <seb128> #endmeeting



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