== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-07-12, 12 Jul at 15:31 — 15:55 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-07-12-15.31.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:33.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:36.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:37.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:37.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:38.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:40.


=== hikiko ===
The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:41.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:41.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:43.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:43.


=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:44.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:49.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:49.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:51.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:52.


=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 15:52.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (84)
 * seb128 (20)
 * Laney (19)
 * FJKong (13)
 * Sweet5hark (13)
 * andyrock (9)
 * Trevinho (6)
 * attente (5)
 * dgadomski (4)
 * meetingology (3)
 * ogra (2)
 * ubot5 (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:31 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-07-12

 15:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 12 15:31:29 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:31 <meetingology> 

 15:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:31 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt (out),  dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron (swap), hikiko (out), laney, qengho (out), seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 15:31 <Sweet5hark> heya

 15:31 <andyrock> o/

 15:31 <seb128> hey

 15:31 <Laney> meow

 15:32 <dgadomski> hey

 15:32 <FJKong> --. .-

 15:32 <Trevinho> Hey

 15:32 <willcooke> FJKong, can you do semaphor too?

 15:33 <willcooke> Right, let's go, this will be pretty quick this week

 15:33 <FJKong> willcooke: no.. just morse code

 15:33 <willcooke> #topic andyrock

 15:34 * willcooke makes a note to change the topic once we're done

 15:34 <andyrock> 1. [BUG:1575452] Copy/move dialog cannot be switched to - DONE

 15:34 <andyrock> 2.  [BUG:1600389] Keep the screen locked if autologin is enabled - WIP

 15:34 <andyrock> 3. Change bug descriptions for SRUs

 15:34 <andyrock> eof

 15:35 <willcooke> thanks andyrock

 15:35 <willcooke> is there a ppa I can use to play with # 1?

 15:35 <andyrock> not yet

 15:35 <andyrock> if you need I can setup one

 15:35 <willcooke> nah, I can wait for the silo etc.  Would you ping me a link when you have one?

 15:36 <andyrock> yup, i'll setup a recipe btw

 15:36 <andyrock> should be ready in a couple of hours

 15:36 <willcooke> nice, thanks andyrock, no hurry though

 15:36 <willcooke> #topic attente

 15:36 <attente> hey

 15:36 <attente> finished reviewing anpok's first set of gtk-mir patches

 15:36 <attente> snapd-xdg-open sru

 15:37 <attente> first iteration of menu patches have been reviewed and currently making revisions on them now

 15:37 <attente> (eof)

 15:37 <willcooke> great stuff, thanks attente

 15:37 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:37 <willcooke> * now on european time until after GUADEC

 15:37 <willcooke> * path lookup code is now finding 'library' (ie: plugin/resource) files

 15:37 <willcooke> for libs (lib/) and programs (bin/) in system and "bundled" locations,

 15:37 <willcooke> seamlessly, without recompile

 15:37 <willcooke> * managed to sort out multiarch and "lib64" style library directories

 15:37 <willcooke> even when the program in question is in bin/ by using the location of

 15:37 <willcooke> glib itself

 15:37 <willcooke> * started looking in to what will be necessary to unify the code with

 15:37 <willcooke> our approach to windows and macos

 15:37 <willcooke> * ^D

 15:37 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski

 15:37 <dgadomski> hey

 15:38 <dgadomski> I continued working on bug #1598183, checking how the file open flags are set in gio/glib

 15:38 <ubot5> bug 1598183 in gvfs "Operation not permitted while writing to symlinked fuse locations" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1598183

 15:38 <dgadomski> nd that's it in the desktop area, thanks

 15:38 <willcooke> thanks a lot dgadomski

 15:38 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:38 <FJKong> hi

 15:38 <FJKong> 

 15:38 <FJKong> * translation  work for bug/1588140 bug/1588646 bug/1588660 bug/1588647, source code reading for context

 15:38 <FJKong> * tracking bug about sogou IM crash after suspend

 15:38 <FJKong> * switch IM when in brower problem

 15:38 <FJKong> eof

 15:39 <willcooke> FJKong, did you phone arrive?

 15:39 <willcooke> *your

 15:39 <FJKong> not yet

 15:39 <willcooke> grrr

 15:39 <willcooke> I'll ask for another one to be sent.

 15:39 <FJKong> Nancy should notice me when it arrived

 15:39 <FJKong> I think it is on the road maybe

 15:40 <FJKong> some guy call me to confirm the infomation

 15:40 <willcooke> ah good!

 15:40 <willcooke> so it's in progress

 15:40 <FJKong> ye

 15:40 <willcooke> I will get a tracking number and see what I can find out.

 15:40 <willcooke> thanks FJKong

 15:40 <willcooke> #topic happyaron

 15:40 <willcooke> happyaron, please let me have your update by email

 15:41 <willcooke> #topic hikiko

 15:41 <willcooke> - debug compiz/unity (bugs, startup issue, Y&X vm etc)

 15:41 <willcooke> - some minor fixes in compiz, unity

 15:41 <willcooke> - updated OEM documents

 15:41 <willcooke> - snap, lxd configuration

 15:41 <willcooke> - looking for other performance issues or improvements that can be done in lowgfx

 15:41 <willcooke> #topic Laney

 15:41 <Laney> • debconf

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ hacked on the new appstream generator, now it can work without a local mirror by downloading stuff on demand

 15:41 <Laney> ‣ still needs langpack and translation support at least, will get it on appstream.staging.ubuntu.com once IS get a move on

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ got libpeas syncable, uploaded, synced & it migrated

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ saw lots of talks, had lots of talks about appstream, ubuntu patches, britney, GRs, dak, transitions, problems/opportunities for derivatives, trademark policies, penguins

 15:41 <Laney> • theme work

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ Radiance is ported now too, uploaded to ppa

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ some people contributed some extra fixes, need to review those

 15:41 <Laney> • in the previous week I hacked on gnome-terminal and got that to work properly with gtk 3.20

 15:41 <Laney> • pushed on some SRUs

 15:41 <Laney> • I got a systemd bug where it spins at 100% cpu; something related to timer jobs - tried to nail it down but didn't manage to yet

 15:41 <Laney> 😰

 15:42 <seb128> conference report coming? ;-)

 15:42 <willcooke> nice bullets

 15:42 <seb128> the list of talk topics look interesting

 15:42 <willcooke> thanks Laney

 15:42 <seb128> I guess I can try to get a over-a-beer summary from you next week ;-)

 15:43 <willcooke> :)

 15:43 <Laney> that's conversations

 15:43 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:43 <willcooke> - yakkety Cr package partially debian-merged, and simplified, DONE. IN-PROGRESS backporting to t,v,x if possible.

 15:43 <Laney> not talks

 15:43 <willcooke> - IN-PROGRESS more work on dekko snap package, debugging its Qt crash bugs.

 15:43 <willcooke> - TO-DO verify chromium snap security changes. look for remaining blockers.

 15:43 <willcooke> oops, sorry Laney

 15:43 <Laney> talks is http://meetings-archive.debian.net/Public/debian-meetings/2016/debconf16/

 15:43 <Laney> carry on

 15:43 <willcooke> #topic seb128

 15:43 <seb128> • vac on friday

 15:43 <seb128> • investigated lightdm/ucc regression concerning user login history

 15:43 <seb128> • helped with some SRU verifications for xenial

 15:43 <seb128> • tested lowgfx compiz version, found an issue with ucc which Marco fixed, good work Eleni&Marco!

 15:43 <seb128> • looked at some snappy issues (java integration, xim erroring out, ...)

 15:43 <seb128> • NEW reviews for the phone team

 15:43 <seb128> • some desktop code reviews&sponsoring

 15:43 <seb128> • thursday is our national day so day off work

 15:43 <seb128> </week>

 15:43 <seb128> thursday is the coming one

 15:43 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:44 <seb128> Laney, thanks

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - snappy work on rc2 -- still l10n troubles, debugged the cause, no fix yet

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - this makes building l10n on snappy terribly slow but the result works

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> => 709MB snap thus (including l10n, Base&Java, but without symbols or debuggability)

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - smoketested and bumped libreoffice 5.2 in the prereleases ppa

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> => some nastiness there still: gtk2 doesnt have unity menus, default Ubuntu gtk3 themes look horrible still, but unity menues work on gtk3

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> => both suck, will go with gtk3 as priority for yakkety dpkg packages, gtk2 is getting more and more obsolete as other distros retreat from it too

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> => also we already have too many scenarios to support, so at least we should now keep snap and debs on the same gtk backend

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - would like to upload the rc2 snap to the store, but miss part of the creds for the store. if you have the account ping me.

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> EOF

 15:44 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark

 15:45 <willcooke> I wonder if we should build a snap for the store with just, say, top 10 languages for now - would that reduce the size of the snap?  (I appreciate this will be slow and painful to rebuild the snap, but I think 700MB+ is too much) for now

 15:45 <seb128> +1 for gtk3

 15:46 <seb128> going for the new serie/version we can as well go for current techs

 15:46 <Sweet5hark> willcooke: it would reduce the snap. but it will lead to an endless bikeshed. and the infra guys said they plan/test with 500-1500MB for now.

 15:48 <Sweet5hark> seb128: yeah, gtk3 will uncover lots of cornercases in e.g. copy-paste, focus issues and somesuch. but I dont think they will disappear when we dont go for this now (its LTS+1)

 15:48 <willcooke> Sweet5hark, this would be a stop gap I think until we can work out how to package langpacks as separate snaps.  So I'm happy to arbitrarily decide on those langpacks.  Perhaps we build two, one with X,Y,Z langs and a full one

 15:48 <seb128> just pick the langs that are on the desktop iso?

 15:48 <willcooke> Sweet5hark, let's take this one offline, after the meeting, or whatever

 15:49 <Sweet5hark> willcooke: aye

 15:49 <seb128> but yeah, +1 on post meeting

 15:49 <willcooke> ack

 15:49 <willcooke> ta

 15:49 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso

 15:49 <willcooke> * Started looking into submitting a pull request to extend the optical-drive snap interface to work with cdparanoia, aka add /dev/sg* support, but I noticed that the sg support is not specific to optical devices, so will need to start a discussion on the snappy-dev list about that one.

 15:49 <willcooke> * Through further digging, ti seems that even when told to use /dev/sr*, cdparanoia is still not able to access it, even with the optical-drive interface in the snapcraft yaml file. Either I'm not doing something right somewhere, or I need to add something that I haven't worked out yet. Investigation ongoing.

 15:49 <willcooke> * Took a bit of time to work on a few bug fixes for a11y-profile-manager, such that the indicator now hangs around when switching profiles, and other doc changes.

 15:49 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 15:50 <willcooke> 30 second time out....

 15:51 <Laney> he's buried under a mountain of a4 paper

 15:51 <willcooke> tkamppeter, please let me have your updates via email, or later on in the meeting...

 15:51 <Laney> the printing got too much

 15:51 <willcooke> :)

 15:51 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho

 15:51 * ogra wonders if you dotn want to drop that euro2016 anachronism from your topic at some point :)

 15:51 <Trevinho> · Landing of Unity, Compiz, Bamf, ucc, libunity for yakkety and SRU.

 15:51 <Trevinho> · Update bugs for SRUs

 15:51 <Trevinho> · Compiz and Unity reviews

 15:51 <Trevinho> · Continued work in unity8 indicators/menus

 15:51 <Trevinho> · Bad week for tax payers... Done mine :°(

 15:52 <willcooke> ogra, 16:34: * willcooke makes a note to change the topic once we're done :)

 15:52 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho

 15:52 <ogra> :)

 15:52 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 15:52 <willcooke> - General bug fixing

 15:52 <willcooke> - Snap sprint prep

 15:52 <willcooke> #topic AOB

 15:53 <willcooke> I'm writing a 16.04.1 "blog post" thing.  If anyone has any ideas for what to talk about please ping me

 15:53 <willcooke> I've got some stuff, but it's a bit bottom-of-the-barrel stuff

 15:54 <willcooke> Oh, in recognition of my European cousins, I am also taking Thursday off

 15:54 <seb128> :-)

 15:54 <willcooke> solidarity brothers

 15:54 <willcooke> Anyone got any other news, gossip, or scandal?

 15:55 <willcooke> 3....

 15:55 <willcooke> 2..

 15:55 <willcooke> 1.

 15:55 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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