== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-06-14, 14 Jun at 15:31 — 16:06 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-06-14-15.31.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:34.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:34.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:35.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:36.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:38.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:39.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:40.


=== hikiko ===
The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:41.


=== larsu ===
The discussion about "larsu" started at 15:41.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:41.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:42.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:44.


=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:44.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:46.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:46.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:50.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:51.


=== any other business ===
The discussion about "any other business" started at 15:52.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (82)
 * seb128 (39)
 * Laney (36)
 * Trevinho (19)
 * desrt (15)
 * Sweet5hark (11)
 * tkamppeter (10)
 * qengho (10)
 * attente (10)
 * FJKong (8)
 * happyaron (5)
 * dgadomski (4)
 * ubot5 (4)
 * meetingology (4)
 * larsu (2)
 * jbicha (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:31 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-06-14

 15:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 14 15:31:31 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:31 <meetingology> 

 15:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:31 <Laney> Trevinho: The unity ones are probably the selectors not matching

 15:31 <willcooke> Roll call:  andyrock (airport), attente(hackfest), desrt(hackdest),  dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko(out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 15:31 <Trevinho> Laney: as for that is likely

 15:31 <Laney> you've got some custom css in there that I should think n eeds refreshing

 15:31 <Trevinho> o/

 15:31 <willcooke> desrt, attente - are you really here?

 15:31 <seb128> hey!

 15:32 <desrt> willcooke: i am here and will is 3m away

 15:32 <Laney> miles

 15:32 <desrt> that is not the standard meaning of "m" in the SI system

 15:32 <Laney> moons

 15:32 <larsu> desrt: that's less than 3m

 15:32 <Laney> moos

 15:33 <Laney> ..."Have you mooed today?"...

 15:33 <qengho> 1.5 centifurlongs.

 15:33 <desrt> larsu points out that it's more like 2.5m

 15:33 <desrt> "from laptop to laptop"

 15:33 <desrt> i rounded up

 15:33 * larsu gets measuring tape

 15:34 <Trevinho> larsu: get your rule out

 15:34 <Trevinho> ruler*

 15:34 <willcooke> right, lets kick off

 15:34 <willcooke> #topic andyrock

 15:34 <willcooke> 1. [BUG:1582430] spinning wheel when opening Rhythmbox from

 15:34 <willcooke> Dash/Launcher WHEN it is already playing music - COMPLETED

 15:34 <willcooke> 2. [BUG:1460649] Can't unlock screen with last day password (before

 15:34 <willcooke> expired) - WIP

 15:34 <willcooke> #topic attente

 15:34 <willcooke> shall we come back to attente?

 15:35 <willcooke> yes

 15:35 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:35 <desrt> "did i disconnect or something?" he says

 15:35 <desrt> hi

 15:35 <desrt> i'm at the hackfest, making uncontroversial blogposts

 15:35 <willcooke> :D

 15:35 <desrt> we were talking about gtk release stuff yesterday... today we talk about portals, which is nice

 15:36 <desrt> tomorrow will be something else :)

 15:36 <desrt> attente will be reconnected soon

 15:36 <desrt> eof

 15:36 <attente> hey, sorry, back

 15:36 <willcooke> desrt, any news on the relocatable work you were doing?

 15:36 <desrt> right!  i should discuss that this afternoon

 15:36 <desrt> will let you know

 15:36 <willcooke> thanks desrt

 15:36 <willcooke> #topic attente

 15:36 <desrt> i generally have a good vibe

 15:37 <attente> prepared sru for g-s, lp:1590508, making one quick change

 15:37 <attente> packaged snapd-xdg-open, sru for lp:1580740, needs sponsoring

 15:37 <attente> dh-make srus for lp:1592134 and lp:1592136

 15:37 <attente> minor fix to mp for lp:1392699

 15:37 <attente> ubuntu software snap promotion

 15:37 <attente> gtk hackfest this week, menu api re-factor discussion, i think we're mostly converged on a decent api

 15:37 <attente> (eof)

 15:38 <willcooke> thanks attente

 15:38 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski

 15:38 <dgadomski> hey

 15:38 <dgadomski> * found and reported 2 samba bugs (regressions): bug #1592326 & bug #1592327, reported upstream, debugging & working on a fix

 15:38 <ubot5> bug 1592326 in samba (Ubuntu) "Permissions not inherited by files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592326

 15:38 <ubot5> bug 1592327 in samba (Ubuntu) "force create mode not enforced on newly created files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592327

 15:38 <dgadomski> * started working on a darktable snap - still struggling with some issues to run it correctly

 15:38 <dgadomski> eof

 15:39 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski

 15:39 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:39 <FJKong> hi

 15:39 <FJKong> * bug tracking could not switch to sogou im in some app

 15:39 <FJKong> in processing

 15:39 <FJKong> * some warning output when installing package

 15:39 <FJKong> * bug 1534492 can't use fcitx in ubuntu-sdk-ide, could not be reproduced yet after upgrading

 15:39 <ubot5> bug 1534492 in Ubuntu SDK IDE "Can't use fcitx for Chinese with QtCreator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1534492

 15:39 <FJKong> * snappy learning

 15:39 <FJKong> * public holiday

 15:39 <FJKong> eof

 15:40 <willcooke> thanks FJKong - good news about the fcitx im & the sdk

 15:40 <willcooke> #topic happyaron

 15:40 <happyaron> hey

 15:40 <happyaron> * some follow up on nm issues

 15:40 <happyaron> * meet with Sogou guys for mobile version, report pending

 15:40 <happyaron> was on holidays during Thursday to Friday

 15:40 <happyaron> eof

 15:40 <willcooke> thanks happyaron

 15:40 <willcooke> glad to see the nm srus are moving

 15:41 <willcooke> and could you take a look at the email from cking re zfs

 15:41 <willcooke> #topic hikiko

 15:41 <willcooke> - OEM project:

 15:41 <willcooke> |-- document weeks 2,3

 15:41 <willcooke> |-- installed tools, client (connection issues see mail)

 15:41 <willcooke> |-- setup the windows partiton etc

 15:41 <willcooke> - Compiz/Unity

 15:41 <willcooke> |-- scale option in compiz to skip intermediate fade steps:

 15:41 <willcooke> https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/compiz/compiz.speed-up-scale

 15:41 <willcooke> |-- u7 uses the scale and expo options in low gfx mode:

 15:41 <willcooke> https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.skip-expo-scale-fading-steps

 15:41 <willcooke> |-- ppa with low gfx mode changes:

 15:41 <willcooke> https://launchpad.net/~hikiko/+archive/ubuntu/lgfx

 15:41 <willcooke> - Awaiting review:

 15:41 <willcooke> |-- shadows for shaped windows: https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.shadows-on-existing-pixmaps

 15:41 <willcooke> #topic larsu

 15:41 <willcooke> oops

 15:41 <willcooke> #topic Laney

 15:41 <willcooke> old habbits

 15:42 <Laney> • theme, now in ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gtk320 for your testification & Trevinho is helping out on some remaining issues, thanks pal xxx

 15:42 <Laney> • discuss some API design with hughsie

 15:42 <Laney> • merge gtk+3.0 gtk+2.0 baobab adwaita-icon-theme, rebuild aisleriot for ppa

 15:42 <Laney> • help with some cdimage issues

 15:42 <Laney> 🚵

 15:42 <willcooke> thanks Laney

 15:42 <seb128> how are we looking on landing or not the new gtk?

 15:42 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:42 <willcooke> oops, sorry seb128

 15:42 <seb128> no worry

 15:43 <seb128> can be a aob topic

 15:43 <willcooke> ack

 15:43 <qengho> * snaps.

 15:43 <qengho> ** Chrome/chromium security policies coming along. jds is taking most of the hard stuff.

 15:43 <qengho> ** claimed dekko mail client.

 15:43 <qengho> ** some work on tor browser.

 15:43 <qengho> ** minecraft some, but mostly making notes for MSFT to do it now. :(

 15:43 <qengho> * Still workign on Chromium FTBFS in builders on Y. Works locally. Same debian/ as 16.04, which works. Need to mimic build-server more.

 15:43 <qengho> * /me lives 5 blocks from that club in Orlando. Me and my immediate tribe are okay. Helicopters overhead are distracting.

 15:43 <qengho> * away tomorrow

 15:43 <qengho> EOF

 15:43 <willcooke> thanks qengho

 15:43 <willcooke> glad you're all ok

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic seb128

 15:44 <seb128> • snaps mostly this week

 15:44 <seb128> • did snaps for gnome-logs (git gnome-3-18), gucharmap (git trunk), started on evince but it has relocation issues, looked at brasero but probably more work that it's worth (integration with command line utilities and relocation and the project is not that active)

 15:44 <seb128> • reported some snapcraft and snapd bugs, joined some IRC/gitter discussions

 15:44 <seb128> • usual rounds of SRUs testing, sponsoring and bug triage

 15:44 <seb128> </week>

 15:44 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - updated snap from upstream beta1 to beta2

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - moved from monkey-patching to a git-format-patch/git-am patch queue

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - tried a full l10n build, that loops unfortunately, so punted for now

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - made LibreOffice aware of the bundled JRE

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> (Unfortunately, for now one still has to go to Tools->Options->Advanced and check the option field for the JRE -- but at least one doesnt have to search for the JRE path)

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - first run doesnt just create config and exit, its now restarted to show a start center on the first run

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - disabled the crashing gtk3 filepickers in the default config, using the LO internal ones for now

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - uploaded and prepared with some basic metadata, but of no use as devmode and store current do play nice together

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - thus uploaded to pcc and blogged about it

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> EOF

 15:45 <Sweet5hark> oh, speaking of filing snapd/snapcraft issues, yeah should do that

 15:45 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark - nice going on the snap

 15:45 <willcooke> please do

 15:45 <willcooke> oh, could you append a known issues to your blog post?

 15:46 <willcooke> Sweet5hark, ^

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso

 15:46 <willcooke> * Started working on putting some snaps together, got flac and vorbis-tools essentially building, but trying to make sure I haven't missed anything that needs to be included but is not... More reading and learning to do, also hitting a snag when trying to check out from git via https, will ask relevant folks if I am unable to work it out myself. The cdparanoia snap is yet to be started, since that requires accessing particular

 15:46 <willcooke> hardware, and I am not  up to speed on making sure thats possible yet.

 15:46 <willcooke> * Continued working on some alsa related merges, haven't finished due to prioritising snaps.

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 15:47 <tkamppeter> - Phone: Reviewed Marc Oliver Gern's printing UI design in Unity 8 by his Google document and had a video call with him.

 15:47 <tkamppeter> - splix: Synced from Debian.

 15:47 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Added quirk rule for Dell PostScript printers to pdftops.

 15:47 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Released version 1.9.0 with the CUPS page accounting, which was incomplete for long time. Also new in this release: Debug lodding in cups-browsed, fixed hang on system shutdown with systemd, fixed gstoraster error output, many dosumentation fixes.

 15:47 <tkamppeter> - OpenPrinting: Updated Ricoh's PPDs on the site and downloadable PPD packages.

 15:47 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2016: Guide students through their projects

 15:47 <tkamppeter> - Bugs

 15:47 <tkamppeter> Any news about LSB SRU?

 15:48 <willcooke> I chased again on Monday, will speak to them later on

 15:48 <tkamppeter> Seems that it will get more urgent in the form of OpenPrinting distro-independent drivers using snap instead of LSB.

 15:48 <willcooke> I thought I saw it in the queue, but it was a fix for W

 15:48 <tkamppeter> Will Snap replace the LSB soon (in general)?

 15:49 <willcooke> I don't know, I think there will be some work to do on the interfaces first

 15:49 <willcooke> so, probably not a priority

 15:50 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho

 15:51 <Trevinho> · Attended Unity8 sprint:

 15:51 <Trevinho> - got unity8 running in mir on X (and fixed the issues preventing the whole thing

 15:51 <Trevinho> to work if it was inside an LXC container)

 15:51 <Trevinho> - fixed some qtmir issues that caused an app (unity8 shell) not being properly

 15:51 <Trevinho> focused, and thus not getting input events

 15:51 <Trevinho> - Fixed unity8-dash running in proper Mir instance (when unity8 is launched)

 15:51 <Trevinho> - Discussed about how to manage menus from both native and libertine apps in u8

 15:51 <Trevinho> + Assigned on getting a component to bridge stuff between mir and X surfaces

 15:51 <Trevinho> - Got assigned on porting unity8 menus to use ListItemLayout components

 15:51 <Trevinho> and then adapting the UI to be usable in pointer-mode

 15:51 <Trevinho> · For few days in London:

 15:51 <Trevinho> - Working with SDK/design people for the menu stuff

 15:51 <Trevinho> - Created some fake Menu models for testing stuff

 15:51 <Trevinho> - Implemented first standard menus

 15:51 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho, great stuff :)

 15:51 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 15:52 <willcooke> - Snapping up GTK+ apps / filing issues with snappy

 15:52 <willcooke> - LightDM work for split greeter / fix issues with Unity 8

 15:52 <willcooke> - Fixed up GNOME Software review average calculation

 15:52 <willcooke> #topic any other business

 15:52 <seb128> I was wondering what we think for the gtk update

 15:52 <seb128> and if more help is needed from other team members

 15:53 <seb128> Laney, ^ you probably have the best overview there

 15:53 <seb128> do you have notes somewhere on what is still to do?

 15:53 <seb128> things like maybe the mir backend needing a refresh (was that tested?), knows apps that have an issue

 15:53 <Laney> some on https://trello.com/c/EXpA6lKW

 15:54 <Laney> would have to get a mir patch if needed before uploading of course

 15:54 <Laney> should hope there's not much that wasn't merged in for 3.20

 15:56 <seb128> k

 15:56 <seb128> let us know if you need help with some fo the remaining things

 15:56 <seb128> also unsure how much other flavors are going to be an issue for landing :è/

 15:57 <seb128> xubuntu seems like they have the same issue than us, need to find resources to get their theme updated

 15:57 <Laney> usual issue isn't it

 15:57 <Laney> but someone has started working on that

 15:57 <Laney> i found a bug with a patch

 15:57 <seb128> great

 15:57 <seb128> k, that was it from me I think

 15:58 <Laney> trying the ppa would be good

 15:58 <Laney> and I would really like to not be the only person fixing theme issues

 15:58 <seb128> I don't even have an y box atm

 15:58 <Laney> going from 1 to 0 to 1 people knowing the theme

 15:58 <Laney> not ideal

 15:58 <seb128> but I'm going to try to give it a try in a vm

 15:58 <seb128> yeah

 15:58 <seb128> well willcooke knows a bit about it and helped previous cycle

 15:59 <seb128> otherwise l_arsu never found somebody to step up helping

 15:59 <seb128> so I've a feeling it's going to be the same here

 15:59 <willcooke> oops, sorry, was talking elsewhere

 15:59 * willcooke reads

 15:59 <attente> is anyone available to sponsor this sru? https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1580740

 15:59 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1580740 in Snappy "[SRU] Cannot open a browser link from a snap that provides a link" [High,Triaged]

 16:00 <willcooke> @ themes - happy to pitch in where I can.  Also, a new hire can use that as a good learning excercise

 16:00 <seb128> attente, did it land in yakkety yet?

 16:00 <meetingology> willcooke: Error: "themes" is not a valid command.

 16:00 <seb128> needs that before SRU

 16:00 <Laney> I mean

 16:00 <Laney> I have to be able to get off this onto appstream stuff soon

 16:00 <willcooke> speaking of new hires - 3 interviews over the last week - will feedback today (really)

 16:01 <Laney> and for that I would like to be able to not have to switch back to theme all the time if possible

 16:01 <Laney> wishful thinking :P

 16:01 <seb128> right

 16:01 <seb128> I'm with you in theory

 16:01 <seb128> in practice I don't see anyone stepping up

 16:01 <seb128> so if you don't do it, it's just likely that gtk stales on its current version

 16:02 <seb128> or maybe somebody from Ubuntu GNOME steps up...

 16:02 <seb128> or one of the new hires when we get them

 16:02 <seb128> anyway, if anywant wants to help there please do!

 16:03 <Laney> fine

 16:03 <willcooke> MATE might be able to offer a little help, since their themes are not a million miles away from ours

 16:03 <Laney> I was hoping someone on our taem

 16:03 <Laney> but if I have to be alone so be it

 16:04 <seb128> sorry Laney :-/

 16:04 <Laney> at least Trevinho is going to help out a bit now

 16:04 <seb128> :-)

 16:04 <attente> seb128: hasn't landed, what's involved there? do i just need to change the debian/changelog release name?

 16:04 <seb128> attente, yes, and use different versions for the series

 16:04 <Laney> I would like to go work on gnome-software upstreaming too, since nobody is doing that either really

 16:04 <Trevinho> Laney: I'm about to run my VM with the stuff in

 16:05 * Laney snuggles Trevinho

 16:05 <Laney> jbicha: thanks for the fixed nautilus

 16:05 <Laney> and firefox

 16:05 <seb128> willcooke, I think we are done on that topic

 16:06 <willcooke> thanks guys, Laney I can lend a hand if you need something fixing.

 16:06 <jbicha> Laney: nautilus 3.20? it still has some issues

 16:06 <willcooke> Laney, also see if Robert can help with the u/s

 16:06 <Laney> jbicha: background work

 16:06 <Laney> s

 16:06 <Laney> apart from crossfading

 16:06 <willcooke> oki, let's wrap the meeting, thanks everyone

 16:06 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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