15:31 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-06-14
15:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 14 15:31:31 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:31 <Laney> Trevinho: The unity ones are probably the selectors not matching
15:31 <willcooke> Roll call:  andyrock (airport), attente(hackfest), desrt(hackdest),  dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko(out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
15:31 <Trevinho> Laney: as for that is likely
15:31 <Laney> you've got some custom css in there that I should think n eeds refreshing
15:31 <Trevinho> o/
15:31 <willcooke> desrt, attente - are you really here?
15:31 <seb128> hey!
15:32 <desrt> willcooke: i am here and will is 3m away
15:32 <Laney> miles
15:32 <desrt> that is not the standard meaning of "m" in the SI system
15:32 <Laney> moons
15:32 <larsu> desrt: that's less than 3m
15:32 <Laney> moos
15:33 <Laney> ..."Have you mooed today?"...
15:33 <qengho> 1.5 centifurlongs.
15:33 <desrt> larsu points out that it's more like 2.5m
15:33 <desrt> "from laptop to laptop"
15:33 <desrt> i rounded up
15:33 * larsu gets measuring tape
15:34 <Trevinho> larsu: get your rule out
15:34 <Trevinho> ruler*
15:34 <willcooke> right, lets kick off
15:34 <willcooke> #topic andyrock
15:34 <willcooke> 1. [BUG:1582430] spinning wheel when opening Rhythmbox from
15:34 <willcooke> Dash/Launcher WHEN it is already playing music - COMPLETED
15:34 <willcooke> 2. [BUG:1460649] Can't unlock screen with last day password (before
15:34 <willcooke> expired) - WIP
15:34 <willcooke> #topic attente
15:34 <willcooke> shall we come back to attente?
15:35 <willcooke> yes
15:35 <willcooke> #topic desrt
15:35 <desrt> "did i disconnect or something?" he says
15:35 <desrt> hi
15:35 <desrt> i'm at the hackfest, making uncontroversial blogposts
15:35 <willcooke> :D
15:35 <desrt> we were talking about gtk release stuff yesterday... today we talk about portals, which is nice
15:36 <desrt> tomorrow will be something else :)
15:36 <desrt> attente will be reconnected soon
15:36 <desrt> eof
15:36 <attente> hey, sorry, back
15:36 <willcooke> desrt, any news on the relocatable work you were doing?
15:36 <desrt> right!  i should discuss that this afternoon
15:36 <desrt> will let you know
15:36 <willcooke> thanks desrt
15:36 <willcooke> #topic attente
15:36 <desrt> i generally have a good vibe
15:37 <attente> prepared sru for g-s, lp:1590508, making one quick change
15:37 <attente> packaged snapd-xdg-open, sru for lp:1580740, needs sponsoring
15:37 <attente> dh-make srus for lp:1592134 and lp:1592136
15:37 <attente> minor fix to mp for lp:1392699
15:37 <attente> ubuntu software snap promotion
15:37 <attente> gtk hackfest this week, menu api re-factor discussion, i think we're mostly converged on a decent api
15:37 <attente> (eof)
15:38 <willcooke> thanks attente
15:38 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
15:38 <dgadomski> hey
15:38 <dgadomski> * found and reported 2 samba bugs (regressions): bug #1592326 & bug #1592327, reported upstream, debugging & working on a fix
15:38 <ubot5> bug 1592326 in samba (Ubuntu) "Permissions not inherited by files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592326
15:38 <ubot5> bug 1592327 in samba (Ubuntu) "force create mode not enforced on newly created files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592327
15:38 <dgadomski> * started working on a darktable snap - still struggling with some issues to run it correctly
15:38 <dgadomski> eof
15:39 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
15:39 <willcooke> #topic FJKong
15:39 <FJKong> hi
15:39 <FJKong> * bug tracking could not switch to sogou im in some app
15:39 <FJKong> in processing
15:39 <FJKong> * some warning output when installing package
15:39 <FJKong> * bug 1534492 can't use fcitx in ubuntu-sdk-ide, could not be reproduced yet after upgrading
15:39 <ubot5> bug 1534492 in Ubuntu SDK IDE "Can't use fcitx for Chinese with QtCreator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1534492
15:39 <FJKong> * snappy learning
15:39 <FJKong> * public holiday
15:39 <FJKong> eof
15:40 <willcooke> thanks FJKong - good news about the fcitx im & the sdk
15:40 <willcooke> #topic happyaron
15:40 <happyaron> hey
15:40 <happyaron> * some follow up on nm issues
15:40 <happyaron> * meet with Sogou guys for mobile version, report pending
15:40 <happyaron> was on holidays during Thursday to Friday
15:40 <happyaron> eof
15:40 <willcooke> thanks happyaron
15:40 <willcooke> glad to see the nm srus are moving
15:41 <willcooke> and could you take a look at the email from cking re zfs
15:41 <willcooke> #topic hikiko
15:41 <willcooke> - OEM project:
15:41 <willcooke> |-- document weeks 2,3
15:41 <willcooke> |-- installed tools, client (connection issues see mail)
15:41 <willcooke> |-- setup the windows partiton etc
15:41 <willcooke> - Compiz/Unity
15:41 <willcooke> |-- scale option in compiz to skip intermediate fade steps:
15:41 <willcooke> https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/compiz/compiz.speed-up-scale
15:41 <willcooke> |-- u7 uses the scale and expo options in low gfx mode:
15:41 <willcooke> https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.skip-expo-scale-fading-steps
15:41 <willcooke> |-- ppa with low gfx mode changes:
15:41 <willcooke> https://launchpad.net/~hikiko/+archive/ubuntu/lgfx
15:41 <willcooke> - Awaiting review:
15:41 <willcooke> |-- shadows for shaped windows: https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.shadows-on-existing-pixmaps
15:41 <willcooke> #topic larsu
15:41 <willcooke> oops
15:41 <willcooke> #topic Laney
15:41 <willcooke> old habbits
15:42 <Laney> • theme, now in ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gtk320 for your testification & Trevinho is helping out on some remaining issues, thanks pal xxx
15:42 <Laney> • discuss some API design with hughsie
15:42 <Laney> • merge gtk+3.0 gtk+2.0 baobab adwaita-icon-theme, rebuild aisleriot for ppa
15:42 <Laney> • help with some cdimage issues
15:42 <Laney> 🚵
15:42 <willcooke> thanks Laney
15:42 <seb128> how are we looking on landing or not the new gtk?
15:42 <willcooke> #topic qengho
15:42 <willcooke> oops, sorry seb128
15:42 <seb128> no worry
15:43 <seb128> can be a aob topic
15:43 <willcooke> ack
15:43 <qengho> * snaps.
15:43 <qengho> ** Chrome/chromium security policies coming along. jds is taking most of the hard stuff.
15:43 <qengho> ** claimed dekko mail client.
15:43 <qengho> ** some work on tor browser.
15:43 <qengho> ** minecraft some, but mostly making notes for MSFT to do it now. :(
15:43 <qengho> * Still workign on Chromium FTBFS in builders on Y. Works locally. Same debian/ as 16.04, which works. Need to mimic build-server more.
15:43 <qengho> * /me lives 5 blocks from that club in Orlando. Me and my immediate tribe are okay. Helicopters overhead are distracting.
15:43 <qengho> * away tomorrow
15:43 <qengho> EOF
15:43 <willcooke> thanks qengho
15:43 <willcooke> glad you're all ok
15:44 <willcooke> #topic seb128
15:44 <seb128> • snaps mostly this week
15:44 <seb128> • did snaps for gnome-logs (git gnome-3-18), gucharmap (git trunk), started on evince but it has relocation issues, looked at brasero but probably more work that it's worth (integration with command line utilities and relocation and the project is not that active)
15:44 <seb128> • reported some snapcraft and snapd bugs, joined some IRC/gitter discussions
15:44 <seb128> • usual rounds of SRUs testing, sponsoring and bug triage
15:44 <seb128> </week>
15:44 <willcooke> thanks seb128
15:44 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
15:44 <Sweet5hark> - updated snap from upstream beta1 to beta2
15:44 <Sweet5hark> - moved from monkey-patching to a git-format-patch/git-am patch queue
15:44 <Sweet5hark> - tried a full l10n build, that loops unfortunately, so punted for now
15:44 <Sweet5hark> - made LibreOffice aware of the bundled JRE
15:44 <Sweet5hark> (Unfortunately, for now one still has to go to Tools->Options->Advanced and check the option field for the JRE -- but at least one doesnt have to search for the JRE path)
15:44 <Sweet5hark> - first run doesnt just create config and exit, its now restarted to show a start center on the first run
15:44 <Sweet5hark> - disabled the crashing gtk3 filepickers in the default config, using the LO internal ones for now
15:44 <Sweet5hark> - uploaded and prepared with some basic metadata, but of no use as devmode and store current do play nice together
15:44 <Sweet5hark> - thus uploaded to pcc and blogged about it
15:44 <Sweet5hark> EOF
15:45 <Sweet5hark> oh, speaking of filing snapd/snapcraft issues, yeah should do that
15:45 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark - nice going on the snap
15:45 <willcooke> please do
15:45 <willcooke> oh, could you append a known issues to your blog post?
15:46 <willcooke> Sweet5hark, ^
15:46 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
15:46 <willcooke> * Started working on putting some snaps together, got flac and vorbis-tools essentially building, but trying to make sure I haven't missed anything that needs to be included but is not... More reading and learning to do, also hitting a snag when trying to check out from git via https, will ask relevant folks if I am unable to work it out myself. The cdparanoia snap is yet to be started, since that requires accessing particular
15:46 <willcooke> hardware, and I am not  up to speed on making sure thats possible yet.
15:46 <willcooke> * Continued working on some alsa related merges, haven't finished due to prioritising snaps.
15:46 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
15:47 <tkamppeter> - Phone: Reviewed Marc Oliver Gern's printing UI design in Unity 8 by his Google document and had a video call with him.
15:47 <tkamppeter> - splix: Synced from Debian.
15:47 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Added quirk rule for Dell PostScript printers to pdftops.
15:47 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Released version 1.9.0 with the CUPS page accounting, which was incomplete for long time. Also new in this release: Debug lodding in cups-browsed, fixed hang on system shutdown with systemd, fixed gstoraster error output, many dosumentation fixes.
15:47 <tkamppeter> - OpenPrinting: Updated Ricoh's PPDs on the site and downloadable PPD packages.
15:47 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2016: Guide students through their projects
15:47 <tkamppeter> - Bugs
15:47 <tkamppeter> Any news about LSB SRU?
15:48 <willcooke> I chased again on Monday, will speak to them later on
15:48 <tkamppeter> Seems that it will get more urgent in the form of OpenPrinting distro-independent drivers using snap instead of LSB.
15:48 <willcooke> I thought I saw it in the queue, but it was a fix for W
15:48 <tkamppeter> Will Snap replace the LSB soon (in general)?
15:49 <willcooke> I don't know, I think there will be some work to do on the interfaces first
15:49 <willcooke> so, probably not a priority
15:50 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
15:51 <Trevinho> · Attended Unity8 sprint:
15:51 <Trevinho> - got unity8 running in mir on X (and fixed the issues preventing the whole thing
15:51 <Trevinho> to work if it was inside an LXC container)
15:51 <Trevinho> - fixed some qtmir issues that caused an app (unity8 shell) not being properly
15:51 <Trevinho> focused, and thus not getting input events
15:51 <Trevinho> - Fixed unity8-dash running in proper Mir instance (when unity8 is launched)
15:51 <Trevinho> - Discussed about how to manage menus from both native and libertine apps in u8
15:51 <Trevinho> + Assigned on getting a component to bridge stuff between mir and X surfaces
15:51 <Trevinho> - Got assigned on porting unity8 menus to use ListItemLayout components
15:51 <Trevinho> and then adapting the UI to be usable in pointer-mode
15:51 <Trevinho> · For few days in London:
15:51 <Trevinho> - Working with SDK/design people for the menu stuff
15:51 <Trevinho> - Created some fake Menu models for testing stuff
15:51 <Trevinho> - Implemented first standard menus
15:51 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho, great stuff :)
15:51 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
15:52 <willcooke> - Snapping up GTK+ apps / filing issues with snappy
15:52 <willcooke> - LightDM work for split greeter / fix issues with Unity 8
15:52 <willcooke> - Fixed up GNOME Software review average calculation
15:52 <willcooke> #topic any other business
15:52 <seb128> I was wondering what we think for the gtk update
15:52 <seb128> and if more help is needed from other team members
15:53 <seb128> Laney, ^ you probably have the best overview there
15:53 <seb128> do you have notes somewhere on what is still to do?
15:53 <seb128> things like maybe the mir backend needing a refresh (was that tested?), knows apps that have an issue
15:53 <Laney> some on https://trello.com/c/EXpA6lKW
15:54 <Laney> would have to get a mir patch if needed before uploading of course
15:54 <Laney> should hope there's not much that wasn't merged in for 3.20
15:56 <seb128> k
15:56 <seb128> let us know if you need help with some fo the remaining things
15:56 <seb128> also unsure how much other flavors are going to be an issue for landing :è/
15:57 <seb128> xubuntu seems like they have the same issue than us, need to find resources to get their theme updated
15:57 <Laney> usual issue isn't it
15:57 <Laney> but someone has started working on that
15:57 <Laney> i found a bug with a patch
15:57 <seb128> great
15:57 <seb128> k, that was it from me I think
15:58 <Laney> trying the ppa would be good
15:58 <Laney> and I would really like to not be the only person fixing theme issues
15:58 <seb128> I don't even have an y box atm
15:58 <Laney> going from 1 to 0 to 1 people knowing the theme
15:58 <Laney> not ideal
15:58 <seb128> but I'm going to try to give it a try in a vm
15:58 <seb128> yeah
15:58 <seb128> well willcooke knows a bit about it and helped previous cycle
15:59 <seb128> otherwise l_arsu never found somebody to step up helping
15:59 <seb128> so I've a feeling it's going to be the same here
15:59 <willcooke> oops, sorry, was talking elsewhere
15:59 * willcooke reads
15:59 <attente> is anyone available to sponsor this sru? https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1580740
15:59 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1580740 in Snappy "[SRU] Cannot open a browser link from a snap that provides a link" [High,Triaged]
16:00 <willcooke> @ themes - happy to pitch in where I can.  Also, a new hire can use that as a good learning excercise
16:00 <seb128> attente, did it land in yakkety yet?
16:00 <meetingology> willcooke: Error: "themes" is not a valid command.
16:00 <seb128> needs that before SRU
16:00 <Laney> I mean
16:00 <Laney> I have to be able to get off this onto appstream stuff soon
16:00 <willcooke> speaking of new hires - 3 interviews over the last week - will feedback today (really)
16:01 <Laney> and for that I would like to be able to not have to switch back to theme all the time if possible
16:01 <Laney> wishful thinking :P
16:01 <seb128> right
16:01 <seb128> I'm with you in theory
16:01 <seb128> in practice I don't see anyone stepping up
16:01 <seb128> so if you don't do it, it's just likely that gtk stales on its current version
16:02 <seb128> or maybe somebody from Ubuntu GNOME steps up...
16:02 <seb128> or one of the new hires when we get them
16:02 <seb128> anyway, if anywant wants to help there please do!
16:03 <Laney> fine
16:03 <willcooke> MATE might be able to offer a little help, since their themes are not a million miles away from ours
16:03 <Laney> I was hoping someone on our taem
16:03 <Laney> but if I have to be alone so be it
16:04 <seb128> sorry Laney :-/
16:04 <Laney> at least Trevinho is going to help out a bit now
16:04 <seb128> :-)
16:04 <attente> seb128: hasn't landed, what's involved there? do i just need to change the debian/changelog release name?
16:04 <seb128> attente, yes, and use different versions for the series
16:04 <Laney> I would like to go work on gnome-software upstreaming too, since nobody is doing that either really
16:04 <Trevinho> Laney: I'm about to run my VM with the stuff in
16:05 * Laney snuggles Trevinho
16:05 <Laney> jbicha: thanks for the fixed nautilus
16:05 <Laney> and firefox
16:05 <seb128> willcooke, I think we are done on that topic
16:06 <willcooke> thanks guys, Laney I can lend a hand if you need something fixing.
16:06 <jbicha> Laney: nautilus 3.20? it still has some issues
16:06 <willcooke> Laney, also see if Robert can help with the u/s
16:06 <Laney> jbicha: background work
16:06 <Laney> s
16:06 <Laney> apart from crossfading
16:06 <willcooke> oki, let's wrap the meeting, thanks everyone
16:06 <willcooke> #endmeeting