== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-05-24, 24 May at 15:30 — 15:57 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-05-24-15.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:33.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:34.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:36.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:37.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:39.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:40.


=== hikiko ===
The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:41.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:41.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:43.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:43.


=== Sweet5hark1 ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark1" started at 15:44.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:45.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:46.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:47.


=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 15:47.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (73)
 * seb128 (31)
 * Laney (18)
 * Sweet5hark1 (11)
 * dgadomski (10)
 * desrt (9)
 * qengho (8)
 * FJKong (8)
 * attente (6)
 * tkamppeter (5)
 * andyrock (5)
 * happyaron (5)
 * meetingology (3)
 * ubot5 (2)
 * jdstrand (2)



== Full Log ==


 15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-05-24

 15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue May 24 15:30:21 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:30 <meetingology> 

 15:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:30 <seb128> :-)

 15:30 <willcooke> Hi all, sorry running a few mins late

 15:31 <willcooke> Roll call:  andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko (out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (hols), tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)

 15:31 <seb128> hey!

 15:31 <desrt> greetings, humans

 15:32 <FJKong> --. -.

 15:32 <dgadomski> o/

 15:32 <qengho> SYNACK

 15:33 <willcooke> oki, me & desrt have to scoot at the top of the hour, so lets do this thing

 15:33 <willcooke> #topic andyrock

 15:33 <andyrock> hey

 15:33 <andyrock> # Fixed a problem with applications lens not correctly displaying entries inside directories with - in the name

 15:34 <willcooke> \o/

 15:34 <andyrock> # Started to work on fix a little bit the show desktop icon

 15:34 <andyrock> # Code reviews

 15:34 <andyrock> # eof

 15:34 <willcooke> thanks andyrock

 15:34 <willcooke> #topic attente

 15:35 <attente> hi

 15:35 <attente> holiday yesterday

 15:35 <attente> spent some time debugging the galculator snapcraft

 15:35 <attente> trying to reduce the delta between ubuntu software and gnome software. some patches merged upstream

 15:35 <attente> (eof)

 15:35 <willcooke> thanks attente

 15:35 <willcooke> good work on the upstreaming

 15:35 <willcooke> is there much more to do>?

 15:35 <attente> yeah...

 15:36 <willcooke> oki, we'll get there.  Let me know if you need anything from me

 15:36 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:36 <seb128> we should maybe consider a bugfix SRU meanwhile...?

 15:36 <desrt> also a short week here (same holiday as attente).  had a really good chat last week with the RH guys that changed the approach to the dconf confinement -- but am now on a much better path.  it seems like i will now confine all of dconf, not just gsettings.

 15:36 <desrt> also did some very initial work on improving debian support in jhbuild.

 15:36 <desrt> various patch reviewing

 15:36 <desrt> eof

 15:37 <qengho> Nice.

 15:37 <willcooke> thanks desrt

 15:37 <willcooke> seb128, attente - let's talk SRU after the meeting?

 15:37 <seb128> yes

 15:37 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski

 15:37 <dgadomski> hey

 15:38 <dgadomski> * spend some time on trying to reproduce bug 1585256 - no luck so far, reported upstream

 15:38 <ubot5> bug 1585256 in samba (Ubuntu) "After upgrading to 4.3.9 lost possibility to login to NetApp using Kerberos" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1585256

 15:38 <dgadomski> * debugging a case where in presence of libmtp proprietary printer drivers break - this probably is not a Ubuntu bug, but need more investigation to be sure

 15:38 <dgadomski> * did a fair amount of snappy reading and made first snaps - I would appreciate any desktop-specific info in that area to start with

 15:38 <dgadomski> eof

 15:38 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski

 15:38 <willcooke> let's pick up desktop snaps later this week

 15:38 <willcooke> maybe tomorrow?

 15:39 <dgadomski> works for me, thanks

 15:39 <willcooke> re: libmtp - tkamppeter might be able to help there as well

 15:39 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:39 <FJKong> hi

 15:39 <FJKong> sogou IM:

 15:39 <FJKong> some error message output from QML, should be diable by default.

 15:39 <FJKong> page up and down not work some time expet for cliking by mouse, hot

 15:39 <FJKong> key binding problem.

 15:39 <FJKong> could not swith out IM in some app.

 15:39 <FJKong> eof

 15:40 <willcooke> thanks FJKong

 15:40 <willcooke> #topic happyaron

 15:40 <happyaron> Mostly network-manager related:

 15:40 <happyaron> 1. rebasing nm/nm-applet to 1.2.2 release

 15:40 <happyaron> 2. tested archive versions of most nm plugins/components

 15:40 <happyaron> 3. work with oem guys for their priority bugs

 15:40 <happyaron> EOF

 15:41 <willcooke> thanks happyaron

 15:41 <willcooke> let's speak in our 1:1 re upstreaming the patches etc

 15:41 <willcooke> #topic hikiko

 15:41 <willcooke> * ezoom: fixed the multimonitor problem with the panels that exceeded their monitor boundaries, fixed problems with nux not being aware of the monitor it renders to.

 15:41 <willcooke> * unity: rendering optimisations

 15:41 <willcooke> - panels should be only rendered in the monitor they belong to (clip the panel geometry parts that don't intersect the panel monitor's geometry): https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.panel-draw-optimisation/+merge/295187

 15:41 <willcooke> - paintDisplay is called per output and draws in all outputs => if we have N outputs we draw every component NxN times.. I replaced that with a paintOutput function  that clips the content around the output boundaries => content is rendered once (at the time the output it belongs to is rendered). https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.optimised-rendering-mmon/revision/4108 (this fix revealed other issues with the blur

 15:41 <willcooke> update so I don't do an MP before I fix them, I might temporary use the paintOutput in low gfx mode - where there is no blur => no issue)

 15:41 <willcooke> *OEM project: begun document, installations, environment setup

 15:41 <willcooke> #topic Laney

 15:42 * desrt waits for her fill of unicode

 15:42 <Laney> • Mainly worked on the theme for 3.20. Looks bad but less bad than it did. Slowly getting there.

 15:42 <Laney> • Also sponsored a couple of SRUs and updates (appstream, glib-networking

 15:42 <Laney> • , theme, some fonts)

 15:42 <Laney> • Found a fix for virt-manager screenshot taking, uploaded that

 15:42 <Laney> • Reviewed hughsie's gnome-software docs & gave feedback to him

 15:42 <Laney> • Got alerted(!) about lack of space on the appstream box, made the volume bigger with a little bit of downtime

 15:42 <Laney> • Mitigated an appstream bug where it used a lot of CPU for most xenial users

 15:42 <Laney> • Had some discussions and feedback about systemd --user

 15:42 <Laney> • Got old (current) dep11 generator running locally on full mirror, will work on this stuff after GTK

 15:42 <Laney> 🙇

 15:42 <desrt> colour!

 15:42 <Laney> I got a ? :(

 15:43 * Laney is yet to see a colour font

 15:43 <desrt> irccloud lives in the web -- emojis work here

 15:43 <willcooke> thanks Laney

 15:43 <desrt> we're discussing colour fonts at the gtk hackfest next month

 15:43 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:43 <qengho> 'sup!

 15:43 <qengho> - Chromium deb up-to-date.

 15:43 <qengho> - Chromium snap INPROGRESS.

 15:43 <qengho> -- font-config crasher at startup. Ugh.

 15:43 <qengho> -- old-security "unconfined" interface now dead, so recording exceptions for new.

 15:43 <qengho> EOF

 15:43 <willcooke> thanks qengho

 15:43 <willcooke> #topic seb128

 15:44 <seb128> • theme of the week was SRU, trying to get fixes for the important reports/oem team bugs

 15:44 <seb128> ∘ fixed u-s-d segfaulting when a touch screen is reconnecting when configured (which some panels seem to do)

 15:44 <seb128> ∘ hit some other xerror on similar situations with input device while trying to reproduce, looked at them as well

 15:44 <seb128> ∘ review/sponsored fix for bluetooth keyboard pairing issue

 15:44 <seb128> ∘ reviewed Trevinho u-s-d proxy and backlight changes

 15:44 <seb128> ∘ debugged indicator-power icon being buggy when idevice are attached

 15:44 <seb128> ∘ fixed libopenobex segfault

 15:44 <seb128> ∘ daily review of incoming launchpad bugs

 15:44 <seb128> ∘ backported upstream libimobiledevice fix for proxy not working with gnutls, should fix interaction with some iOS 8+ devices

 15:44 <seb128> ∘ triagged some nm bugs, nagged aron/mathieu with some patches to backports and bugs to look at, tried to help to get SRUs going (sponsoring)

 15:44 <seb128> • tested some of the in-proposed SRUs to help moving them to updates

 15:44 <seb128> • backport improvements to the gnome-calculator snap based on Trevinho's work on hello-unity (no more static file or arch definition!)

 15:44 <seb128> </work>

 15:44 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark1

 15:45 <Sweet5hark1> - work on snap stuff

 15:45 <Sweet5hark1> - got a libreoffice 5.2 alpha 1 to finish building in snapcraft

 15:45 <Sweet5hark1> - can run the binary from the snap from outside (yay?), but not wrapped in ubuntu-core-launcher even with --devmode (nay)

 15:45 <Sweet5hark1> -> libreoffice segfaults after a "you run me against libpng16, while I was build against libpng12" which is weird: I dont know where it even finds the libpng16  ...

 15:45 <Sweet5hark1> - added gdb and strace again to the snap to be able to do debugging from "inside" the snap to figure out what is going on ...

 15:45 <Sweet5hark1> - backups, cleanup

 15:45 <Sweet5hark1> - set up my yakkety pbuilder/jenkins foo

 15:45 <Sweet5hark1> - usual upstream meetings and politics ...

 15:45 <Sweet5hark1> EOF

 15:45 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark1

 15:45 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 15:46 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Completed log file facility for cups-browsed.

 15:46 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Fixes on the documentation.

 15:46 <tkamppeter> - Investigations on cups-browsed shutdown hanging (bug 1579905): CUPS goes down before cups-browsed, but must go down after cups-browsed. Investigations how to do this with systemd.

 15:46 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2016: Guide students to get started with their projects

 15:46 <tkamppeter> - Bugs

 15:46 <ubot5> bug 1579905 in cups-filters (Ubuntu) "cups-browsed causes shutdown hang/delay in Ubuntu 16.04" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1579905

 15:46 <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho

 15:46 <willcooke> � Prepared SRU for BAMF and unity

 15:46 <willcooke> � Some progress in getting electron apps snapped in unconfined mode

 15:46 <willcooke> � Updated upower patch for getting actual kbd backlight value (SRU in

 15:46 <willcooke> progress too)

 15:46 <willcooke> � Backported some commits from gnome-settings-daemon

 15:46 <willcooke> � Fixed freedesktop Screensaver implementation in u-s-d to use g-s if possible

 15:46 <willcooke> � Reviews

 15:47 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 15:47 <willcooke> - LightDM in-session greeter work

 15:47 <willcooke> - Yakkety package updates

 15:47 <willcooke> #topic AOB

 15:47 <willcooke> Please think of a desktop snap and add it to that doc I sent round by email

 15:48 <willcooke> As of a few hours ago I have access to Taleo, and we've got 13 applications in there.  I'm doing a first round sift now

 15:48 <willcooke> hopefully we'll have some interviews lined up soon

 15:48 <seb128> what is Taleo?

 15:49 <seb128> I guess HR related website

 15:49 <seb128> ?

 15:49 <Laney> it's the site that people apply through

 15:49 <seb128> thanks

 15:49 <willcooke> Yeah, it's the 3rd party site that hosts all our job applications

 15:49 <Laney> the job advert is under taleo.com

 15:49 <Sweet5hark1> good news! new victims on the team!

 15:49 <Laney> I assume it adds a LOT of value to the process

 15:49 <willcooke> so people see the job ad, and then can apply through there, attach a CV, etc etc

 15:49 <willcooke> and it now sends me an email when that happens

 15:49 <willcooke> yay

 15:50 <Laney> On February 9, 2012, Oracle Corporation acquired Taleo Corporation for $1.9 billion.[4]

 15:50 * Sweet5hark1 hand Laney a cookie to recharge his snark.

 15:50 * Laney winds his neck in

 15:51 <willcooke> blimey.  Thats a lot of money for a pretty straight forward web app

 15:51 <seb128> sorry for derailing a bit the topic ;-)

 15:51 <willcooke> :))

 15:51 <seb128> looking forward to see if we have good candidates!

 15:51 <willcooke> anyone got anything else before we wrap?

 15:51 <seb128> just pointing out https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+junk/gnome-calculator-snap again

 15:51 <seb128> which is the gnome-calculator snap we worked together in Prague

 15:51 <willcooke> dgadomski, ^

 15:51 <seb128> I've backported the recent work from Trevinho

 15:52 <seb128> I think it has most of the "common snap tricks" needed for desktop

 15:52 <seb128> so useful to look there before redoing the same work ;-)

 15:52 <dgadomski> thanks, will definitely look into this

 15:52 <willcooke> jdstrand also has fixed issues in the U7 interface too, so things should be a bit easier

 15:52 <seb128> yeah

 15:53 <seb128> though for new we try to get things working in --devmode

 15:53 <seb128> so while having confinement triggering less issues is nice those are not blockers

 15:54 <willcooke> yes, worth stressing that, use devmode if you have issues for now

 15:55 <jdstrand> but file bugs!

 15:55 <dgadomski> is there an official snappy desktop image to test the snaps on?

 15:55 <jdstrand> it won't ever get fixed if we don't know about them :)

 15:55 <willcooke> that ^

 15:55 <willcooke> :)

 15:55 <willcooke> dgadomski, 16.04 is the official version

 15:55 <willcooke> just use your desktop!  nice and easy

 15:55 <dgadomski> I like that :)

 15:56 <Laney> haha

 15:57 <willcooke> ok, gonna wrap and go to next meeting.

 15:57 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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