== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team 2016-04-12, 12 Apr at 15:31 — 15:57 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-04-12-15.31.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:32.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:33.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:39.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:40.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:41.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:42.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:43.


=== hikiko ===
The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:44.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:45.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:47.

  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/1562406 

=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:52.


=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:54.


=== aob ===
The discussion about "aob" started at 15:56.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * Laney (70)
 * desrt (20)
 * attente (14)
 * Sweet5hark (7)
 * Trevinho (7)
 * happyaron (7)
 * qengho (5)
 * andyrock (5)
 * tkamppeter (5)
 * meetingology (3)
 * ubot5` (2)
 * mhall119 (2)



== Full Log ==


 15:31 <Laney> #startmeeting Desktop Team 2016-04-12

 15:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 12 15:31:13 2016 UTC.  The chair is Laney. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:31 <meetingology> 

 15:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:31 <Laney> I stole this from slangesek:

 15:31 <Laney> laney@nightingale> echo $(shuf -e desrt andyrock happyaron SweetShark qengho hikiko FJKong Laney TheMuso Trevinho robert_ancell seb128 tkamppeter willcooke attente)                                ~

 15:31 <Laney> qengho seb128 willcooke attente tkamppeter TheMuso Laney Trevinho FJKong hikiko robert_ancell happyaron desrt SweetShark andyrock

 15:31 <qengho> Ooo!

 15:32 <Laney> #topic qengho

 15:32 <andyrock> o/

 15:32 <qengho> - transitioning chromium to new build system, GN, off of GYP. - chromium snaps - zfs utilities testing.

 15:32 <qengho> EOF

 15:32 <Trevinho> \o

 15:32 <qengho> Ow, man, all on one line.

 15:33 <Laney> compression

 15:33 <qengho> Indeed. Newlines cost money.

 15:33 * Laney skips the people that are away

 15:33 <Laney> #topic attente

 15:33 <attente> hi all

 15:34 <attente> gnome-software hackfest last week, some patches merged upstream as well as some feature requests

 15:34 <attente> trying to fix up some update-all stuff for a new release

 15:34 <Laney> are you getting the branch in shape?

 15:34 <Laney> we should update thursday latest

 15:34 <attente> Laney: trying

 15:35 <Laney> and file bugs for the remaining issues

 15:35 <Laney> then SRU those later on

 15:35 <attente> need to fix some bugs right now

 15:35 <Laney> we're going to have to release note some stuff

 15:35 <attente> maybe tonight or tomorrow for a new release

 15:35 <Laney> so whatever you know of, keep it in mind

 15:35 <Laney> like "why oh why are some apps randomly marked as third party?"

 15:36 <Laney> if you have time could you test the new dpkg plugin please?

 15:36 <attente> sure

 15:36 <Laney> hughsie split it out but I doubt it actually got tested

 15:36 <Laney> merci!

 15:36 <attente> yeah, a bit worried because cherry picking the update-all stuff doesn't work either

 15:36 <Laney> conflicts?

 15:37 <attente> fixed the conflicts, but still running into a segfault

 15:37 <Laney> mmm

 15:37 <Laney> in the worst case we hide the button again

 15:37 <attente> also some other unmentionables

 15:37 <Laney> and SRU this change

 15:37 <attente> ok

 15:37 <Laney> I saw the notification with actions too

 15:37 <Laney> should make sure that is turned off properly

 15:38 <attente> right

 15:38 <Laney> think there was a commit to check XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP there to take, or write

 15:38 <attente> he said it should be in the gs-utils

 15:39 <attente> anyways (eof)

 15:39 <Laney> thx

 15:39 <Laney> #topic tkamppeter

 15:39 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Determined what needs to be done to make it support MuPDF as PDF interpreter. Should be possible to get it done by two GSoC students.

 15:39 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Flattening filled forms is no problem with cups-filters with all three PDF interpreters thanks to rastertopdf (with all interpreters we can generate PWG Raster)

 15:39 <tkamppeter> - PWG (Printer Working Group) has released IPP Everywhere standard so that printer manufacturers can self-certify. Very important step for driverless printing.

 15:39 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2016: Student selection, request of slots at Google, mentor assignment

 15:39 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.

 15:40 <Laney> cheers

 15:40 <Laney> #topic TheMuso

 15:40 <Laney> * Finished implementing a solution for accessibility profiles to be

 15:40 <Laney> available and usable in the mate flavour.

 15:40 <Laney> * Bug fixes for Braille and alsa to fix various bugs that have been

 15:40 <Laney> reported.

 15:40 <Laney> * Spent time tracking down what I thought was a race condition in mate with

 15:40 <Laney> accessibility. Sometimes Orca wouldn't read the desktop. Turns out I had to

 15:40 <Laney> wait a bit, and all worked. Why its not responsive on first start I don't

 15:40 <Laney> know, but it does work.

 15:41 <Laney> #topic Laney

 15:41 <Laney> gnome-software sprint too

 15:41 <Laney> hopefully most stuff is going upstream

 15:41 <Laney> did some code for it like adding the usage of libapt

 15:42 <Laney> the rest of the week I will be working on this too, probably not much else before release

 15:42 <Laney> although I will try to sponsor some stuff

 15:42 <Laney> #topic Trevinho

 15:42 <Trevinho> · Fixed indicator-session race that caused "Restart..." menu item to be shown in unity

 15:42 <Trevinho> · Fixed a regression in BAMF matching for desktop-less apps

 15:42 <Trevinho> · Investigating the no-menus on fresh-boot issue (really can't reproduce, looks like a race in gtk parsing of the menu-model, since Hud works)

 15:42 <Trevinho> · Improved andyrock bamf and Hud branches to reduce memory usage, removing X properties dependencies and sharing the action menus.

 15:42 <Trevinho> · Hud tuning

 15:42 <Trevinho> EOF

 15:43 <Laney> thx

 15:43 <Laney> #topic FJKong

 15:44 <Laney> 1 libpng research to get time of frame, may need aron to help to update

 15:44 <Laney> package

 15:44 <Laney> 2 skin unpack for sogou skin testing

 15:44 <Laney> 3  review bug report from community

 15:44 <Laney> #topic hikiko

 15:45 * Laney coughs

 15:45 <Laney> very well

 15:45 <Laney> #topic happyaron

 15:46 <happyaron> a minute..

 15:46 * Laney is excited

 15:46 <happyaron> 1. updated: radcli, ocserv

 15:46 <happyaron> 2. review translations submitted from NUDT's team (6000+ strings)

 15:46 <happyaron> 3. libxml2 python3 build system issue follow up

 15:46 <happyaron> 4. ubuntukylin packages review&sponsoring

 15:47 <happyaron> EOF

 15:47 <Laney> that is exciting!

 15:47 <Laney> thanks!

 15:47 <Laney> #topic desrt

 15:47 * happyaron looks at that excited Laney

 15:47 <desrt> o hai

 15:48 <desrt> working on untangling a big mess right now.. we never considered what would happen with dbus-activatable apps if we had an app with '-' in the bus name

 15:48 <desrt> turns out we have a bunch of those and it's a mess...

 15:48 <Laney> isn't that not allowed?

 15:48 <desrt> i was going to force everyone to rename their apps because seb was away and i hope he wouldn't notice, but then i remembered that he's coming back soon

 15:48 <desrt> so instead, we're just going to say that '-' is good from now on

 15:49 <desrt> well, the problem stems from the fact that we need to convert the desktop file name into a dbus object path and object paths cannot have '-'

 15:49 <desrt> gapplication has an old trick to use '_' instead, so we're just copying that around to a few more places

 15:49 <desrt> the funny thing is that a bunch of apps list DBusActivatable=true, install service files, the whole nine yards, but have a '-' in the name, so have been silently falling back to fork()/exec() the whole time

 15:50 <Laney> haha

 15:50 <desrt> the best case is gnome-font-viewer which installs a service file that has an Exec=gnome-font-viewer --gapplication-service

 15:50 <Sweet5hark> desrt: so we are testing the fallback verrry well>

 15:50 <mhall119> Laney: when you're done crowbar-ing gnome-sofware into xenial, could you help muon do the same?

 15:50 <mhall119> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/1562406

 15:50 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1562406 in muon (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Update to latest upstream version" [Undecided,Confirmed]

 15:50 <desrt> but gnome-font-viewer doesn't actually accept --gapplication-service as a valid commandline option

 15:50 <desrt> pretty hilarious

 15:51 <desrt> the only reason it worked at all is because it has '-' in the name and has been using the fallback path

 15:51 <desrt> anyway... i'll have this all sorted out by end of day, hopefully :)

 15:51 <Laney> mhall119: I'm not likely to be done ever EVER ever EVER - try pitt_i?

 15:51 <desrt> otherwise, florida was awesome

 15:51 <desrt> eof.

 15:51 <Laney> did you go to disneyworld?

 15:51 <desrt> no

 15:51 <desrt> but i went to nasa

 15:51 <desrt> and we saw the CRS-8 falcon9/dragon launch

 15:52 <desrt> first successful touchdown on the drone ship.  very exciting.

 15:52 <desrt> it was _loud_

 15:52 <Laney> hell yeah

 15:52 <Laney> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:52 <Sweet5hark> - bumped xenial to 5.1.2 along with upstream

 15:52 <Sweet5hark> - code review (upstream)

 15:52 <Sweet5hark> - triaged and fixed bug 1566050 upstream (do we want to bump LibreOffice for this in Xenial still? AFAICS its "only" a crash on exit ...)

 15:52 <Sweet5hark> - was in Munich for TDF/LibreOffice, opportunity to meet the state secretary of the federal german ministry for economics

 15:52 <Sweet5hark> EOF

 15:52 <ubot5`> bug 1566050 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Crash on exit: ScCsvGrid leaks past vcl lifetime" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1566050

 15:53 <Laney> you schmoozer

 15:54 <Sweet5hark> aye

 15:54 <Laney> danke

 15:54 <Laney> #topic andyrock

 15:54 <andyrock> hey

 15:54 <andyrock> worked on the hud keybinding change

 15:55 <andyrock> and some reviews

 15:55 <andyrock> <\andy>

 15:55 <Laney> you html bad

 15:56 <Laney> #topic aob

 15:57 <Laney> #endmeeting



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