== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15, 15 Mar at 15:31 — 15:56 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-03-15-15.31.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:33.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:46.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:46.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:47.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:48.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:48.


=== hikiko ===
The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:49.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:50.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:51.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:52.


=== Sweet5hark1 ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark1" started at 15:53.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:54.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:54.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:54.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:55.


=== any other business ===
The discussion about "any other business" started at 15:56.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (54)
 * seb128 (27)
 * andyrock (25)
 * desrt (16)
 * Laney (12)
 * hikiko (9)
 * FJKong (8)
 * happyaron (7)
 * dgadomski (5)
 * qengho (5)
 * meetingology (3)
 * ubot5 (2)
 * Trevinho (2)
 * attente (2)



== Full Log ==


 15:31 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15

 15:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 15 15:31:21 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:31 <meetingology> 

 15:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:31 <willcooke> Roll call:  andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 15:32 <desrt> answer roll call!

 15:32 <Trevinho> o/

 15:32 <dgadomski> \o

 15:32 <hikiko> hello

 15:32 <qengho> SYNACK

 15:32 <FJKong> \o/

 15:32 <happyaron> hey

 15:32 <andyrock> \o

 15:33 <seb128> hey

 15:33 <willcooke> I have another meeting in 30 mins, so if we don't get done in time I'll hand over to seb128

 15:33 <willcooke> but let's get started

 15:33 <willcooke> #topic andyrock

 15:34 <andyrock> * reviews

 15:34 <andyrock> * i've been working on the lockscreen suspend bug. I rewrote our inhibition logic but I've some bad news

 15:35 * desrt raises an eyebrow at "rewrote inhibit logic"

 15:35 <andyrock> inside unity :D

 15:35 * desrt 's eyebrow falls back down

 15:35 <seb128> lol

 15:36 <andyrock> basically the problem is that unity/compiz fails to properly "lock" the screen because the screen is turned off

 15:36 <andyrock> so all the frames are kind of trashed

 15:36 <andyrock> and drawn only when the screen is turned on again on resume

 15:36 <Laney> don't you install a suspend inhibitor?

 15:36 <andyrock> yeah

 15:36 <seb128> can't the indicator do the locking before calling the switching or suspend?

 15:36 <andyrock> we do that

 15:36 <andyrock> but compiz fails to draw it

 15:37 <andyrock> because the screen is off

 15:37 <andyrock> so the screen is locked but not drawn

 15:37 <seb128> why is the screen off?

 15:37 <andyrock> and this happens just on lid off because of this

 15:37 <seb128> oh ok

 15:38 <andyrock> if you suspend with a menu it's ok

 15:38 <andyrock> I'm trying to figure our a way to workaround this

 15:38 <seb128> k

 15:38 <andyrock> *out

 15:39 <andyrock> g-s do not fail to do so because it does not use gtk?

 15:39 <andyrock> *opengl

 15:39 <andyrock> sorry

 15:39 <andyrock> i'll keep working on it, at least I know what to fix now

 15:40 <andyrock> <\andy>

 15:40 <willcooke> thanks andyrock

 15:40 <willcooke> Do you need anyone to help you?

 15:40 <seb128> why is opengl making a difference there?

 15:41 <seb128> willcooke, maybe it would be good to get input from somebody knowing the rendering stack enough to have a clue what's going on

 15:41 <seb128> kgunn's team?

 15:41 <seb128> or maybe desrt knows offhand what could be wrong?

 15:41 <desrt> i would have thought it was easy but the whole "can't draw when the screen is already off" thing is a bit annoying

 15:42 <willcooke> can we add a "simple" force option to compiz?

 15:42 <desrt> well, i guess it's rather because something at the system level (or maybe even firmware) is killing the screen content in response to lid-close before we have a chance to intercept it

 15:42 <seb128> how are other screensavers handling that?

 15:43 <desrt> "poorly"

 15:43 <seb128> :-/

 15:43 <desrt> i still see gnome-shell having similar problems too

 15:44 <seb128> k

 15:44 <hikiko> maybe xfce?

 15:44 <seb128> "fun"

 15:44 <willcooke> oki, andyrock & desrt - can you guys have a chat

 15:44 <seb128> it means it might not be fixable with xorg...

 15:44 <willcooke> lets see if we can find a work around

 15:44 <desrt> i am indeed inclined to blame the graphics stack based on what andyrock just said

 15:45 <desrt> but i never looked into this myself

 15:45 <andyrock> i can propose an ungly workaround

 15:45 <seb128> let's discuss after the meeting

 15:45 <willcooke> th

 15:45 <willcooke> x

 15:45 <andyrock> basically we give the control back to lightdm/unity-greeter

 15:45 <Trevinho> I'm also wondering whether this can happen in all the graphic stacks...

 15:45 <andyrock> but the session is not going to be active on resume

 15:46 <willcooke> let's discuss later

 15:46 <willcooke> thanks chaps

 15:46 <andyrock> yup

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic attente

 15:46 <attente> hey, not much, just gnome-software bugs

 15:46 <attente> (eof)

 15:46 <willcooke> thanks attente

 15:46 <willcooke> good work there

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:46 <desrt> ° bugs

 15:46 <desrt> ° reviews

 15:46 <desrt> ° some gnome-software fun

 15:46 <desrt> ° releases (coming today)

 15:46 <desrt> ° lots of cat power

 15:46 <desrt> ° finally got my ADP stuff set up

 15:46 <desrt> ␃

 15:47 <willcooke> thanks desrt

 15:47 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski

 15:47 <dgadomski> hey

 15:47 <dgadomski> * bug 1554004 - tested fix and prepared debdiffs for SRU

 15:47 <ubot5> bug 1554004 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (Ubuntu Wily) "Segfault on X startup with VX900" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1554004

 15:47 <dgadomski> and that's the only thing this week in the desktop area

 15:47 <willcooke> sweet, thanks dgadomski

 15:47 <dgadomski> thanks

 15:48 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:48 <FJKong> hey

 15:48 <FJKong> bug 1545910

 15:48 <ubot5> bug 1545910 in Ubuntu SDK IDE "Cannot input Chinese characters into TextField in a QML application" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1545910

 15:48 <FJKong> Cannot input Chinese characters into TextField in a QML application Edit

 15:48 <FJKong> bug confirmed, it is caused by system environment variables problem, still need more time

 15:48 <FJKong> Sogou IM

 15:48 <FJKong> wrong position of candidate words when typing in texmacs

 15:48 <FJKong> eof

 15:48 <willcooke> thanks FJKong

 15:48 <willcooke> #topic happyaron

 15:48 <happyaron> hi

 15:49 <happyaron> 1. Write deploy script for the sogoupinyin VM, tired of fixing time to time

 15:49 <happyaron> 2. Fonts work continued

 15:49 <happyaron> 3. Bug fixes for Ubuntu Kylin

 15:49 <happyaron> 4. Planning of LTS translation, will follow up when NUDT has new update, might need to go to Changsha

 15:49 <happyaron> over

 15:49 <willcooke> thanks happyaron

 15:49 <willcooke> #topic hikiko

 15:49 <hikiko> hi

 15:49 <hikiko> last week:

 15:49 <hikiko> * wrote shadows for windows that have alpha and don't provide any shape information (it works with most windows but it can't be merged before I fix the corner cases)

 15:49 <hikiko> * fixed the black dots (but it seems that we can't merge it either: there was another mp for that bug that was rejected before mine because the change affects other plugins, so I plan to push a relevant change after the ezoom and then merge it (since we can temporary hide the problem with marco's trick).

 15:49 <hikiko> this week:

 15:49 <hikiko> * I stopped the shadows/gtk related work and went back to the ezoom development: I am trying to fix a blocking bug I have nux-side + multimonitor issues to move on.

 15:50 <hikiko> eof

 15:50 <willcooke> thanks hikiko

 15:50 <willcooke> #topic Laney

 15:50 <Laney> hi

 15:50 <Laney> • Spent probably 50% of the week working on creating a 'frontend' load balanced http server thing for appstream. I'm waiting on some RTs to test this now.

 15:50 <Laney> • Fixed missing files in gst-bad, reworked the packaging to reduce the risk of that happening again

 15:50 <Laney> • Reverted font to previous version, new one was buggy

 15:50 <Laney> • Rebuilds and tracking (autopkgtests etc) for poppler migration

 15:50 <Laney> • Merge of webkit2gtk

 15:50 <Laney> • Couple of icon fixes for appstream

 15:50 <Laney> • Merge of gtk+3.0 gnome-terminal

 15:50 <Laney> • Was trying to test that last one when my desktop shat itself and now one of the monitors won't work

 15:51 <Laney> • FFe reviews

 15:51 <Laney> 🙚

 15:51 <willcooke> :) thanks Laney

 15:51 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:51 <qengho> - IN-POGRESSS: trying to get chromium 49 security update out the door. gtk3 theme support not working. pdf trouble.

 15:52 <qengho> - IN-PROGRESS: self-review.

 15:52 <qengho> - TODO: finish snap package

 15:52 <qengho> EOF

 15:52 <willcooke> thanks qengho

 15:52 <willcooke> #topic seb128

 15:52 <seb128> • one vac day

 15:52 <seb128> • investigated some gnome-calendar segfaults/helped to get some fixes upstream and backported those

 15:52 <seb128> • looked a bit at snappy-by-default (ffe waiting) and upgrades questions

 15:52 <seb128> • got pulled in some meetings about the previous item

 15:52 <seb128> • sponsored an xchat-gnome segfault fix + SRU

 15:52 <seb128> • debuggged some gnome-software issues (mostly with the updates list), suggested some formatting change (waiting for review) and reported server problems which got resolved since thanks to bdmurray

 15:52 <seb128> • bugs triaging/debugging/upstreaming

 15:53 <seb128> </week>

 15:53 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 15:53 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark1

 15:54 <willcooke> we'll come back...

 15:54 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso

 15:54 <willcooke> * Filed MIR for valadoc as is a build dep of a11y-profile-manager that I missed... Some issues need resolving there, so will look into. I'm considering dropping the dep and shipping docs with my tarballs as a work-around.

 15:54 <willcooke> * Started digging into why some indicator menu items, particularly those with icons, are not being spoken by Orca. Seems its something within the GTK GMenuModel code, need to see if I can reproduce with newer gtk first.

 15:54 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 15:54 <willcooke> - More testing for distribution-independent printer driver packaging.

 15:54 <willcooke> - Communication with potential students for this year's Google Summer of Code.

 15:54 <willcooke> - Bugs.

 15:54 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho

 15:55 <seb128> zzZZzz

 15:55 <willcooke> please paste your updates later...

 15:55 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 15:55 <willcooke> - GNOME Software work

 15:55 <willcooke> - LightDM 1.17.6 release

 15:55 <willcooke> - Simple Scan 3.19.92 release

 15:55 <willcooke> - Fixing use of $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP

 15:56 <willcooke> #topic any other business

 15:56 <willcooke> I've got to run

 15:56 <seb128> I would like to discuss nautilus

 15:56 <willcooke> but reviews should be out to you later this week

 15:56 <seb128> but can do after the meeting

 15:56 <willcooke> oki, let me end it now and then I will come back and read later on

 15:56 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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